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    Hello Everyone; As many of you, I will never have the need to use the back seat.... at least not for passengers, and loading groceries and such into the back seat can be a bit of a PIA. Simply folding the seats down does indeed allow for a much increased cargo area, but of course, the deck becomes a two tiered arrangement. I considered removing the back seat of my 2013 500 POP, and then I saw that there is actually a removal "Kit" on the market that turns the back area into a very nice and flat Cargo area. At first look, it appeared to be just what I was looking for..... EXCEPT now I'm having second thoughts...... duh?????

    I read somewhere, and for the life of me I can NOT find it again, that the rear seats are actually an integral part of the superstructures support in the event of a wreck. They supposedly provide a substantial amount of support in the event of a "T" Bone type of side impact.

    Has anyone else read or hear of this? After considering it, it does seem like the seats might provide some further "Crush" strength, but I wonder if it is really significant. I would sure like to turn the back into a nice flat Cargo area, but don't want to jeopardize safety to do it. Any idea's or opinions on it?

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    I took mine out the other weekend. Simple to do, like 9 screws then pull everything out. Bottom portion is just cheap foam so I can't see that being a part of the support you mention. The rear uprights have a study center piece but think that's mostly because that's the bracket for the seat belts. I've been running without a seat delete since I took them out and I heard noise was supposed to get louder. I haven't noticed a difference. Hopefully the kit I found in the classifieds comes Tuesday to clean up the look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haring View Post
    I took mine out the other weekend. Simple to do, like 9 screws then pull everything out. Bottom portion is just cheap foam so I can't see that being a part of the support you mention. The rear uprights have a study center piece but think that's mostly because that's the bracket for the seat belts. I've been running without a seat delete since I took them out and I heard noise was supposed to get louder. I haven't noticed a difference. Hopefully the kit I found in the classifieds comes Tuesday to clean up the look.
    Post pics when you are done!! @haring

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    No the rear seat won't help in a wreck, if you really want something to help out with structure - get one of the rear chassis braces. Two vendors here sell them, and since I will get accused of it if I post it - pm me and we'll discuss the options that are on the market.

    Personally, my rear seat is still in the car, for now. Soon however it wont be and there will be a rear X brace instead.
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    We pulled our rear seats out a few months ago, and haven't missed them at all. The dog loves having the flat area to lay down in.

    We did the kit, available from a few sources, but several folks here on the forum have done it themselves, making a platform out of various materials and, of course, some carpet. Installation was very easy.

    Do it and enjoy the extra usable room!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarLes View Post
    We pulled our rear seats out a few months ago, and haven't missed them at all. The dog loves having the flat area to lay down in.

    We did the kit, available from a few sources, but several folks here on the forum have done it themselves, making a platform out of various materials and, of course, some carpet. Installation was very easy.

    Do it and enjoy the extra usable room!
    Yep, I did it myself. Super cheap, less than $50.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    Yep, I did it myself. Super cheap, less than $50.
    Clean DIY! Now you have the extra room that the BEATS Audio takes away. What did you use to level out the front portion?

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    I'm curious doing the same.
    Anybody make a lounge chair out of the removed rear seat? I might try that for my barn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haring View Post
    I've been running without a seat delete since I took them out and I heard noise was supposed to get louder. I haven't noticed a difference.
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    OK... I did it. Just could not bring myself to spend $300+ dollars for the commercial Seat Delete Kit. So... I went to Lowes and bought just under $50 worth of material. I got a 1/4" 48" X 48" piece of plywood, a 6' X 8' ready cut indoor outdoor carpet that matched pretty well. I got a small piece of carpet pad for sound dampening.

    The seat was easy to remove.
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    I put down a layer of the carpet pad, and also found a piece of a cooler pad that I put under the back panel to dampen the noise, yet allow the air to flow through.
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    Then I cut out the plywood. It is 48" across at the front, and only 38" across at the back and 43" +/- front to back. I tried and tried, but ended up cutting the plywood down the middle so it would fold, because I just could not get it into the car as one solid piece. I applied some scrap wood strips to the plywood for support (spacers between the plywood and the floor). This was needed due to fact that the risers that supported the front part of the removed rear seat also raised the front side of the plywood. The installed deck is about 1" higher in the front than it is in the rear, so adjust the height of your spacers to give even support. The carpet is glued on (spray glue) and I used some staples on the underside where it folded around. The pieces of carpet on the rear act as a hinge along the plywood cut, along with the top piece. Since I don't plan to be taking it in and out, I didn't go to the expense of a Piano Hinge.... the carpet worked just fine.

    Bottom side of plywood

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    Here it is flipped over. (Top side)

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    And here is a photo of the finished installed deck.

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    The deck could be made of a thicker plywood (1/2") and the scrap wood spacers might not be needed, but I just could not see any real reason to use thicker plywood. It cost more and was added unnecessary weight. I put a couple of screws through the plywood into those risers to keep everything in place and not rattling.

    It may not be the greatest, but I'm pleased with it, and the space is very usable. Now I'm looking for a place to spend the $250 that I saved!

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