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    I'm having the same issues with the Wilwood (adapter) fitting that goes from the hard line to the flex line. It is leaking at the hard line. On the OEM, I can literally hand tighten the hard line and there is no static leak. With the Wilwood Adapter I have put what feels like way too uch torque and it still leaks. I think that the angle of the seat that meets the hard line is incorrect. I tried BOTH front adapter fittings and they both leaked. Burned through 1 whole bottle of Motul 5.1 before giving up. VERY, VERY disappointed, Wilwood. In the Fiat Wilwood Video above the tech hand tightened the hard line which is as it should be. They must have changed suppliers? I suspect the rear kit will also leak as bsc70 has indicated. I ordered a Competizione Sport Tuning Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit from 500 Madness. Lets see how that does.

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    Give an update to this as you progress.
    This is disheartening - this was my next planned upgrade.
    Not that it matters, but where did you purchase the kit from?

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    I bought my Wilwoods through NGEN Performance in 2017. Didn't have these problems, but there was an issue with the rear pads being too thick and needing trimming.

    I did have issues with my existing brake lines not wanting to detach from the car, but it's hard to make that Wilwood's fault.
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    I have this kit waiting on installation in my garage - is it worth reaching out to Wilwood / NGEN on this?

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    Always worth asking.
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    bought a pair of used Neu-f front SS brake lines just in case I need them...

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    Hi Guys, I bought My Wilwoods from CarID. 500Madness has them too and if I were to do it again I'd probably get it from them. Even tho I didn't buy from them they have been very helpful. I will post a full report on all things I've had to do for this install. But for now the Competizione lines from 500Madness is the answer to the Wilwood leaks. The Competizione lines are VERY different to the Wilwoods. The difference is in the "bubble" flare. The ones from Competizione sealed finger tight with no leak just like the OEM. That said, you will have to get additional fittings because the fitting on the Wilwood caliper is not like the OEM which the Competizione is (M10 x 1.0). In addition the Wilwood caliper needs a 90 degree fitting especially in the rear. It may sound tedious but I will say, I was able to install the front calipers and do a mild test ( I have not bedded them as yet) and I am very impressed. So more later.
    No issues with the pads being too thick.
    A question for "texanbrit" I'm also having a real issue now with my right rear rubber OEM line not seperating from the hardline fitting, just as you did. (Not the one at the caliper but the one with female/female fittings near the fuel tank). How did you seperate them?!
    Here is the Competizione Line, it's a 2 second video showing how the Competizione fitting can rotate:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-Y...G3xC1MkJuWzp66
    And Here are Wilwood, Competizione and OEM
    Wilwood Bubble Flare1.jpgCompetizione Bubble Flare.jpgOEM Bubble Flare1.jpg
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    I ended up ditching the wilwood hoses in the front and installed the neu-f brake hoses. The fronts leaked but the the rears were fine. No issue with removing brakes hoses that I could remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by NGEN View Post
    I ended up ditching the wilwood hoses in the front and installed the neu-f brake hoses. The fronts leaked but the the rears were fine. No issue with removing brakes hoses that I could remember
    so the Neu-f hoses bolted up to the Wilwood kit?

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    I took a look at the Neu-F, Neuspeed Sport Brake Line Kit. It looks VERY much like the Competizione kit from 500Madness! If it is, the male ends are (OEM) M10x1.0 and DOES NOT fit into the Wilwood caliper without a 1/8 NPT male to M10 Female fitting, in addition as I mentioned above I suggest getting a 90 degree 1/8 NPT Male/ Female fitting and then Screw the 1/8 NPT tp M10 into the 90 degree fitting. The Wilwood Line kit comes with a 90 degree fitting and I can see why, The line bends in an arkward way when it comes out perpendicular to the caliper, the line needs to connect to the caliper from the top (best). I could not find a 90 degree male 1/8 NPT to Female M10x1.0 anywhere, hence the two fittings to get the 90 degree. That said, these are brass fittings and (straight from Wilwood) need to have thread sealant on the fittings. Wilwood's Fiat installation video shows the Tech wrapping the fitting with Teflon. Everything I read suggests that as only a last resort. Permatex makes a thread sealant that includes brake fluid/fittings: 59214 High temp Thread Sealant and permatex recommends using their Surface Prep on the Fittings beforehand. (What ever you don't use the Surface Prep with Loctite Red 271, if you do, The cure time is NOW!)

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