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    Autozone or Advance Auto usually put batteries in for free. Batteries can fail fo many reasons. What usually happens if the cables are not corroded (which is a major source of battery / charging issues) is the battery has sat under full charge for a while (many times from not being used, or just normal day to day using the radio with the car off or lights being left on, etc.) and the battery deteriorates and eventually fails prematurely. A fully charged battery is ~12.6 volts, but if a battery is 12.1 volts you will probably not notice it, but that is considered 50% discharged. A battery that sits under 90% discharged for a period of time can begin the sulfation process and by the time you notice it, it is too late. Many times the car will start when left overnight or when you go out to lunch, but on the return trip the car won't start. This is because the battery will generate a charge when left unused overnight or for a few hours, but when trying to restart immediately after turning off, the battery is too weak. Leaving the car sit overnight and the process is restarted - car starts in the morning.

    The bottom line is to always make sure the terminals are clean and tight and have the battery occasionally checked to see if it is below full strength. If it is, charging the battery up to full charge is the best way to guarantee a battery that last a long time. It can be inconvenient to do this, but like most things, extra care pays dividends. Advance and Autozone charge batteries for free, too. I would hit them up for a battery. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Autozone or Advance Auto usually put batteries in for free. Batteries can fail fo many reasons. What usually happens if the cables are not corroded (which is a major source of battery / charging issues) is the battery has sat under full charge for a while (many times from not being used, or just normal day to day using the radio with the car off or lights being left on, etc.) and the battery deteriorates and eventually fails prematurely. A fully charged battery is ~12.6 volts, but if a battery is 12.1 volts you will probably not notice it, but that is considered 50% discharged. A battery that sits under 90% discharged for a period of time can begin the sulfation process and by the time you notice it, it is too late. Many times the car will start when left overnight or when you go out to lunch, but on the return trip the car won't start. This is because the battery will generate a charge when left unused overnight or for a few hours, but when trying to restart immediately after turning off, the battery is too weak. Leaving the car sit overnight and the process is restarted - car starts in the morning.

    The bottom line is to always make sure the terminals are clean and tight and have the battery occasionally checked to see if it is below full strength. If it is, charging the battery up to full charge is the best way to guarantee a battery that last a long time. It can be inconvenient to do this, but like most things, extra care pays dividends. Advance and Autozone charge batteries for free, too. I would hit them up for a battery. Good luck.
    Thanks for the thorough reply. I took the car to Firestone and yes I need a new battery. Firestone is probably more expensive than AutoZone, but I used them for my tires and I like them and I trust them. And at least they're cheaper than the dealer when it comes to labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Providence View Post
    Thanks for the thorough reply. I took the car to Firestone and yes I need a new battery. Firestone is probably more expensive than AutoZone, but I used them for my tires and I like them and I trust them. And at least they're cheaper than the dealer when it comes to labor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Autozone or Advance Auto usually put batteries in for free. Batteries can fail fo many reasons. What usually happens if the cables are not corroded (which is a major source of battery / charging issues) is the battery has sat under full charge for a while (many times from not being used, or just normal day to day using the radio with the car off or lights being left on, etc.) and the battery deteriorates and eventually fails prematurely. A fully charged battery is ~12.6 volts, but if a battery is 12.1 volts you will probably not notice it, but that is considered 50% discharged. A battery that sits under 90% discharged for a period of time can begin the sulfation process and by the time you notice it, it is too late. Many times the car will start when left overnight or when you go out to lunch, but on the return trip the car won't start. This is because the battery will generate a charge when left unused overnight or for a few hours, but when trying to restart immediately after turning off, the battery is too weak. Leaving the car sit overnight and the process is restarted - car starts in the morning.

    The bottom line is to always make sure the terminals are clean and tight and have the battery occasionally checked to see if it is below full strength. If it is, charging the battery up to full charge is the best way to guarantee a battery that last a long time. It can be inconvenient to do this, but like most things, extra care pays dividends. Advance and Autozone charge batteries for free, too. I would hit them up for a battery. Good luck.
    An update to my Battery issue in my 2014 500L Trekking with 42K and some advice needed please. Not sure if I should start a new thread.

    Dead Battery-Is It The Alternator or a module or the software update dealer performed March 31?

    After reading and getting advice from this thread I got a an Interstate battery 6 months ago with a warranty through Firestone. After sitting for 6 days the battery took a while to turnover and then died twice, but was able to take jumps and run. Then driving on the highway it went into limp mode. The tow truck operators and cops who stopped to help said it was probably the alternator. Mopar roadside towed it to the dealer I always go to. That dealer charges me $280 for the car check and tells me it's the battery and that they won't and/or can't check the alternator because "it's the battery" and I owe them $280.
    1)With all the problems these 2014 500L's have (I'm on my 3rd transmission) it makes sense that it's not the battery. Does anyone have additional experience or with this issue.
    Thanks!

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    Have had my 2017 500L for only about 5 weeks (bought used with 19k mi). Is this battery issue an ongoing problem with newer models? Our cars sit for several days at a time without being run. Does it pull a lot of energy while sitting? (I turn off everything before shutting down a vehicle but I don't always lock the car.) Our parking location is not an easy spot for a jump or a tow, so if this is an issue, I may want to get a charger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mama's Leadfoot View Post
    Have had my 2017 500L for only about 5 weeks (bought used with 19k mi). Is this battery issue an ongoing problem with newer models? Our cars sit for several days at a time without being run. Does it pull a lot of energy while sitting? (I turn off everything before shutting down a vehicle but I don't always lock the car.) Our parking location is not an easy spot for a jump or a tow, so if this is an issue, I may want to get a charger.
    Sorry to hear that. The first thing to do is to have your battery tested. If you go to an Autozone/Advance type place have them test it a couple of time in a row and check to see how much the state of battery charge percentage drops because if they just test it just once it could give a false positive. If the percent of charge drops drastically, your battery is no good.

    If the battery test Good, but not near 100% it would be a good idea to get your battery charged up to 100%. Whenever you buy a car, it is always a good idea to check your battery as the car could have sat around on the lot unused for a while and the battery could be run down. If a battery sits around for a while undercharged it can deteriorate (see the post below) and be on the way out. That's likely what is happening. If your battery went dead or is weak it needs to be put on a charger. Driving the car around to charge it is not recommended because an alternator isn't made to charge up a dead battery, and you likely are not getting the battery up to 100%. It is also puts a stain on the alternator, which isn't a good thing.

    Best thing is to drop the battery off to get charged or buy a decent battery charger and get your battery up to 100%. Then take it from there. You could also test the car to make sure there isn't something that is drawing your battery down while the car sits.

    If it were me, I would charge the battery up to 100%. If the problem came back I would buy a new battery, especially if the car sat around not being used before you got it. If I had the problem again, I would test for a draw. Alternatively, you could have the car tested now for a draw for peace of mind.

    Keep in mind, cars that sit around need their battery tested regularly because all the electronics on modern cars can drain the the battery. That will eventually damage the battery if it is left discharged. My Abarth sits around for 4 months out of the year and I am still on the original battery 6 1/2 years later, largely due to me occasionally testing my battery and not letting the battery charge get low (under~85-90 %).

    Good luck and let us know.




    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat500USA View Post
    Autozone or Advance Auto usually put batteries in for free. Batteries can fail fo many reasons. What usually happens if the cables are not corroded (which is a major source of battery / charging issues) is the battery has sat under full charge for a while (many times from not being used, or just normal day to day using the radio with the car off or lights being left on, etc.) and the battery deteriorates and eventually fails prematurely. A fully charged battery is ~12.6 volts, but if a battery is 12.1 volts you will probably not notice it, but that is considered 50% discharged. A battery that sits under 90% discharged for a period of time can begin the sulfation process and by the time you notice it, it is too late. Many times the car will start when left overnight or when you go out to lunch, but on the return trip the car won't start. This is because the battery will generate a charge when left unused overnight or for a few hours, but when trying to restart immediately after turning off, the battery is too weak. Leaving the car sit overnight and the process is restarted - car starts in the morning.

    The bottom line is to always make sure the terminals are clean and tight and have the battery occasionally checked to see if it is below full strength. If it is, charging the battery up to full charge is the best way to guarantee a battery that last a long time. It can be inconvenient to do this, but like most things, extra care pays dividends. Advance and Autozone charge batteries for free, too. I would hit them up for a battery. Good luck.
    Last edited by Fiat500USA; 10-10-2018 at 09:52 AM. Reason: Fixed some sentences to make point clearer
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