Infraction System

[Abarth Phreak]

I showed this to my wife....she liked it. She does have a small Hello kitty collection. I'm doomed.

Ban him Tweak!!!!! BAN BAN BAN (At least for an hour?)

[Lil Blue]

please don't!!!

May not have much of choice...she is the boss, and she scares the crap out of me. Fortunately she's happy with Lil Blue just the way it is.

[msjulie33]

May not have much of choice...she is the boss, and she scares the crap out of me.

love that!

[Andree]

I showed this to my wife....she liked it. She does have a small Hello kitty collection. I'm doomed.

I like the shade of pink, personally. I wouldn't head into Hello Kitty zone myself, but I was once tempted 20 years ago with a pink vacuum at Sanrio. Most people I see in public loving Hello Kitty are little kids. But there is some market for it among teens and "adult" women. Consider it a particular group's own Abarth Scorpion badge, and you'll get the idea. Like here: http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showt...l=1#post645122

I definitely like the idea of personalized cars, in whatever color the heart's desire. Our Fiats can take any color anyone can think up, and look good.

[DIVSAbarth500]

Generally, it appears that most of this infraction list is spot-on and falls under the category of pure common sense. My only concern is there seem to be a few grey areas in the infractions where subjectivity may replace objectivity in deciding infraction points. However, that remains to be seen as this system is implemented.

I can only speak for myself but I will do my best to keep this list in mind at all times while participating.................

[Abarth Phreak]

So, in the past few days since this infraction system has been posted I have seen several violations that have gone unchecked. I understand the comment made about not "micro-managing", but blatant and inappropriate language, trolling and harassment seems to be continuing well beyond a micro level. I would advise a realignment on this thread's topic.

[Andree]

So, in the past few days since this infraction system has been posted I have seen several violations that have gone unchecked. I understand the comment made about not "micro-managing", but blatant and inappropriate language, trolling and harassment seems to be continuing well beyond a micro level. I would advise a realignment on this thread's topic.

There can always be discussions on the various things via PM, where you can point out what you think is not good to Fiat500USA. And then Chris can look at it, and check with the original poster to clarify or discuss.

I haven't tried out the multiple recipient PM options, but everyone could be included in the conversation as needed.

People have their own perceptions of what is and isn't appropriate, and we differ on where the line is drawn.

I remember years back getting "in trouble" for blatantly trolling. Well, that's how several people saw it. They were wrong. I was trying to be helpful. The area of discrepency centered around a term I took literally (as I tend to do) which turned out to be some kind of drug equipment slang. I was so embarrassed to learn I misunderstood, and I guess everyone but me knew what was being discussed. I really didn't know.

I was one of those kids in class that did not shut up. I wanted to know everything. I still do. If I get a bone to chew on, I'll keep at it, like one time I was determined to find a wallpaper pattern for someone, and spent 11 solid hours looking at webpages. I found it. All I had was a picture to go on. And no knowledge of wallpaper.

That's persistence for a good thing, but we've all had feelings of "this thing isn't over yet" that will affect others negatively. Sometimes there isn't a cut and dried finish. Endless grudge match. Human nature.

[Andree]

P.S. I hope it's not me.

[Tweak]

So, in the past few days since this infraction system has been posted I have seen several violations that have gone unchecked. I understand the comment made about not "micro-managing", but blatant and inappropriate language, trolling and harassment seems to be continuing well beyond a micro level. I would advise a realignment on this thread's topic.

It is a work in progress and be aware Chris and I have been chatting extensively as of late and posts have been removed from public view daily. There are reasons or at least a reason at the current time some things are not yet changed but that should happen sometime soon, several infractions and warnings have also been issued for the record. PMs sent, conversations had, we are making the moves but at this moment we are doing so slowly and figuring out and deciding as we go in an effort to address on a more specific level problems rather than throwing a blanket on things and hoping all is covered. We may not close out the year exactly where we'd like but I think we'll be starting the new year in an improved fashion...just got some sorting out to do yet with some ongoing issues.

[Fiat500USA]

There is a lot going on behind the scenes here that is out of the public eye. The infraction system is here to guide members to get back on track. I didn't put in effect to get rid of folks I don't agree with or to humiliate people in public. I don't want to silence members that can have something positive to contribute without giving them a chance to get back on track. This is a progressive system, and we're working through it.

[Abarth Phreak]

Thanks guys for the response. I am not saying ban sticks need to be used, and you are correct, it is not a public system so it will not be seen however there are some things that were not edited appropriately. A good rule of thumb would be if you would not want your children to see the comments if they were looking over your shoulder and quote them on their twitter account they should not be posted here.

I will add that some of these comments and inappropriate behaviors are coming from Vendors, which is not good for business or community trust.

[Tweak]

Thanks guys for the response. I am not saying ban sticks need to be used, and you are correct, it is not a public system so it will not be seen however there are some things that were not edited appropriately. A good rule of thumb would be if you would not want your children to see the comments if they were looking over your shoulder and quote them on their twitter account they should not be posted here.

I will add that some of these comments and inappropriate behaviors are coming from Vendors, which is not good for business or community trust.

Valid point and it is due to frustrations on both ends, as Chris stated it is ongoing and your comments are appreciated! I think I know exactly what comment you are thinking of and I imagine it was purely due to frustration...doesn't excuse it but I get why some of the posts are happening from both directions. We just need to be respectful and straight up with one another, ask questions - get answers - move on to the next topic. When you are ignored it creates a problem but some things just won't go your way and acting out ends poorly for everyone on the forum and posts get hidden from public view in an effort to maintain order and keep things on track. If you ask a question 3 times and 2 get removed you haven't been "censored", you've just asked too many times and are obviously wasting your time in doing so sadly.

[ReconTopher]

So... back to this Hello Kitty car. I kind of like it. I certainly wouldn't drive it and I don't think I would be a passenger. But, I wouldn't object if my daughter wanted one someday. *snicker

[Tweak]

So... back to this Hello Kitty car. I kind of like it. I certainly wouldn't drive it and I don't think I would be a passenger. But, I wouldn't object if my daughter wanted one someday. *snicker

Just don't have her sign up here.

LOL.

[Andree]

So... back to this Hello Kitty car. I kind of like it. I certainly wouldn't drive it and I don't think I would be a passenger. But, I wouldn't object if my daughter wanted one someday. *snicker

I almost posted a link to pink Corvettes that I ran into on another site. But the woman isn't family-friendly. LOL. She IS clothed, but only as required by law. In, it's got to be, Southern California. I don't know what she does, I don't want to know either, as in one photo she is posed under a billboard of herself.

Anyway, her name is Angelyne, the title of the pics is "Pink Tuesday, Angelyne Corvettes Edition" on the site oppositelock.jalopnik.com, you can google it. She has some sort of Barbie doll thing going on there.

Be careful with the Hello Kitty Fiat, it could lead to harder stuff, like the Corvette. Oh my.