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    500T Cattiva/T Horsepower vs AbarthP?

    I've been driving my Abarth around in non-sport mode quite often. For those of you who have a 500T or the knowledge in general? I wonder, is the 500T "in" sport mode about the same HP as an Abarth in non-sport mode. If so, you have got plenty of power in the Turbo. It's seems great they are still going to offer the Turbo as an option in the Cattiva
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    Sport mode doesn't do anything for HP or torque on all models either turbo or non turbo. It just tightens both throttle response and steering feel. On most other cars with a "Sport" mode it also changes the shift points for an auto transmission. I don't think that it does on Fiat 500's though.
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    Sport mode just allows more air to flow through the engine. It makes the steering feel tighter. I don't find that sport mode changes too much on the turbo. The turbo has 135 HP while the Abarth has 160. Sport Mode benefits the 500 more than the Turbo and the abarth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWFIAT88 View Post
    Sport mode just allows more air to flow through the engine...
    Naw. Just what I wrote, but you are welcome to disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lammie200 View Post
    Sport mode doesn't do anything for HP or torque on all models either turbo or non turbo. It just tightens both throttle response and steering feel. On most other cars with a "Sport" mode it also changes the shift points for an auto transmission. I don't think that it does on Fiat 500's though.
    How does it change the engine's exhaust note, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetsurfer View Post
    How does it change the engine's exhaust note, then?
    TQ is increased, maybe by as much as 30ft/lbs over non-sport mode on a stock Abarth.

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    I don't think that there are any differences in the way Sport mode works on any Fiat models except for the differences between MT and AT. If the attachment works it describes the effects. It is from a 2013 500 Owner's Manual.

    I just checked an Abarth manual and it does say that it increases boost pressure to the turbo for maximum torque. Maybe that is what changes the exhaust note. I am not an Abarth expert though. I have probably said too much.
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    The T whether in or out of Sport mode equals the Abarth in non Sport mode. Abarth owners are at the top of the 500 line power wise only when in Sport mode.

    Pressing the Sport button on anything other than the Abarth tightens up the electric steering and makes the throttle more sensitive.

    Pressing the same button on the Abarth increases HP and torque by affecting the ECU. Plus it tightens the steering and increases throttle response
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    Quote Originally Posted by lammie200 View Post
    Sport mode doesn't do anything for HP or torque on all models either turbo or non turbo. It just tightens both throttle response and steering feel. On most other cars with a "Sport" mode it also changes the shift points for an auto transmission. I don't think that it does on Fiat 500's though.
    This is an incorrect statement. When the Sport button is pressed in the Abarth the allowed boost is increased as well as torque. It's right in the owners packet that came with the car and an extremely easy thing to feel. You literally have two different cars at your disposal. I cannot speak for the 500T models, but your statement would be accurate for all of the naturally aspirated engines.

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    Thanks for all the info...sometimes I wish I could have the turbo power but the the tight steering? But that's another issue...
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