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    Buy additional Level 1 charger

    I'm not going to install a Level 2 charger as I usually only drive about 40miles a day. I would like to install one Level 1 charger in my garage and keep another one in the car (just in case). Any recommendations which one to buy (best price)? My understanding is, I don't have to buy the Fiat one, any other charger should work, right?

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    Welcome to the forum.

    I will honestly say I have not checked into the charging options at all since here in NC I doubt I will see a 500e and it would not suit my needs anyway, I do hope you enjoy the forum and I imagine someone will have info to share sometime soon.

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    Has anyone bought an additional Fiat Level 1 charger? What did it cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrick View Post
    Has anyone bought an additional Fiat Level 1 charger? What did it cost?
    Welcome to the forum.

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    Thanks, Tweak. We had custody of a European friend's 500e for almost two months when he returned home for the holidays, and enjoyed it very much. We're both retired, and are considering selling one of our two gas cars and getting a 500e for in-town use, which motivated my question about buying a charger.

    The car rides and drives quite well. I have two complaints: a) the trunk's small, which means one uses the back seat for bags and parcels when shopping - and shopping would be a significant use of a city car like this. The problem is that it takes too much muscle and stretching to move the front seatbacks and seat position to access the rear, and return the seat afterwards. Perhaps the trunk mod detailed here would ameliorate the challenge; and b) the horn beep on locking is annoying and unnecessary; a light flash alone (as on our Passat and Honda) is sufficient for an aware driver. Noise pollution's a problem, and this doesn't help; I'm disappointed this function is apparently not defeatable.

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    Clipper Creek makes the portable PCS-15 that you can find for $450-500. Prices on the new level-2 charging stations are coming down fast.

    Clipper Creek just introduced the HCS-40 L2 30A unit for under $600. The advantage of an L1 station vs L2 (besides the cost savings of not providing 240V service) is that it does give you a deeper charge. It is also more efficient, as the L2 charging generates a lot more battery heat - the fan comES on intermittently in the 500e - so some of your electricity dollar is being wasted in heat and running the cooling fan.
    I have not run a detailed comparison on L1 vs L2 charging on my 500e, but a neighbor has done so on his Volt. He has consistently gotten a deeper charge with 120V (about 5% more).
    An advantage of an L2 station, besides the obvious one, is that if you have Time-of-use billing, you probably can charge only at off-peak times without spilling over into high per-kwh rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravowren View Post
    Clipper Creek makes the portable PCS-15 that you can find for $450-500. Prices on the new level-2 charging stations are coming down fast.

    Clipper Creek just introduced the HCS-40 L2 30A unit for under $600. The advantage of an L1 station vs L2 (besides the cost savings of not providing 240V service) is that it does give you a deeper charge. It is also more efficient, as the L2 charging generates a lot more battery heat - the fan comES on intermittently in the 500e - so some of your electricity dollar is being wasted in heat and running the cooling fan.
    I have not run a detailed comparison on L1 vs L2 charging on my 500e, but a neighbor has done so on his Volt. He has consistently gotten a deeper charge with 120V (about 5% more).
    An advantage of an L2 station, besides the obvious one, is that if you have Time-of-use billing, you probably can charge only at off-peak times without spilling over into high per-kwh rates.
    Welcome to the forum and thanks for adding useful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrick View Post
    Thanks, Tweak. We had custody of a European friend's 500e for almost two months when he returned home for the holidays, and enjoyed it very much. We're both retired, and are considering selling one of our two gas cars and getting a 500e for in-town use, which motivated my question about buying a charger.

    The car rides and drives quite well. I have two complaints: a) the trunk's small, which means one uses the back seat for bags and parcels when shopping - and shopping would be a significant use of a city car like this. The problem is that it takes too much muscle and stretching to move the front seatbacks and seat position to access the rear, and return the seat afterwards. Perhaps the trunk mod detailed here would ameliorate the challenge; and b) the horn beep on locking is annoying and unnecessary; a light flash alone (as on our Passat and Honda) is sufficient for an aware driver. Noise pollution's a problem, and this doesn't help; I'm disappointed this function is apparently not defeatable.

    David Brick
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    Seat/space issues... rear seat delete (my former Sport was used for the first one created). Done by Steve Shrader of Shrader Performance and rearseatdelete.com

    Horn... adding an after market horn such as the WOLO Bad Boy (About $30 bucks on Amazon) is louder and sounds better to me and it'll remove the beep I think as the old can be removed when this is installed.

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