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Seafarer61
05-03-2013, 05:26 AM
Getting finalized on new wheels and thought I'd get some opinions from the regulars.

Here's three wheels I'm considering. No 4x98s here but variation bolts and I go way back so I'm not concerned. These wheels all will require hub centric rings so no worries.

Rota Track R. Candy Red Rim/Black Center Weight (14.5-lbs)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/rota_trackr_blackred_s3_zpsaec67d67.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/racinglab_2257_227941882_zpsb7e35507.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/8165ac5f-f264-432c-94ff-4ab89e61598c_zpsa28ab66e.jpg

I like a two-tone wheel that doesn't have a lot of open space on the inner perimeter, which allows too much brake dust to set more on the lip and face or worse, gather on the exterior of a white car. The Rota fits the bill nicely, with a lot of black spokes there. No problem cleaning 'em as wheel wax does wonders once you've got a nice coat on 'em. Simple soap and water cleans up nice. I also like the Euro look of the wheel. It's not a Japanese tuner-style look. I also think the black/red works with the black/red interior. I sported this anodized lip look several years back on a set of Rota Grids and those wheels were great. Never a problem with 'em. Light and durable. Big Rota fan here.

Going to wrap the mirrors in either carbon fiber or matte black and put red Scorpion decals on the covers if it's a red wheel or white if it's black or anthracite.

Forgive the fourth-grade attempts at paint here. I just wanted a general idea and this online photo seemed to do the trick.




Second choice:
MSW Type 25 Anthracite Weight (about 18.5-lbs, matching OEM)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/msw_typ25_mg_ci3_l_zpscd7155af.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/62767225-c59d-40b8-ac3e-d73efa3cae0b_zpsbce915a4.jpg
I like the way they designed the fins with this wheel though it's not saving me any rotational weight. Turbine-blade style wheels seem to be very popular with Abarths so I thought this was something a bit different. Great price on 'em as well.

Third choice:
Sparco Assetto Gara Red. Weight (about 17.5-lbs)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/sparco_ag_r_ci3_l_zpsc339ea07.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/SubMariner61/10301edf-92b9-42e0-a777-a3f39ab1b61d_zpsd89636ee.jpg
Looks racy and pops. Gotta love the white/red combo. I've always liked white cars with red wheels.

Opinions welcome!

2Cool
05-03-2013, 07:34 AM
The top one is more unique, especially if you add some red accents to the car. The middle is pretty meh, similar to many other wheels. As for solid red, a lot of people have done it on the 500, it looks good but is no longer one of a kind.

SuperTony
05-03-2013, 09:34 AM
I like the top set the best. Could be a cool set with the right tires. Kind of a race car look. I agree with 2Cool's assessment on the other two.

Jjm4life
05-03-2013, 09:53 AM
I vote the red ones. At least not the rotas.

shagghie
05-03-2013, 12:35 PM
I say be as unique as you feel comfortable being. I think the Rotas answer the mail there. The MSW's are meh. The Sparco's are probably the best wheel of the bunch technically, but I think they look better in black than in red on your set-up if you get those. I'm leaning Rota's... you only live once and they will definitely stand out and spark discussion, while the other two will not.

Abarth Five O
05-03-2013, 01:01 PM
My vote is for the Rotas, pops more on you car, more unique design, and very light weight.

Deefourtay
05-03-2013, 01:55 PM
I'm sorry but I would avoid Rotas.. Pretty much a downgrade from our original wheels! The 3rd choice you have doesn't look so bad (Sparcos).. May be you can even get some O.Z.'s or BBS wheels.

http://imageshack.us/a/img57/9456/rotasmotivatorcb3.jpg

shagghie
05-03-2013, 02:05 PM
Good point on the replica class of wheel... but some are built much better than others. I've heard great things about XXR's for example.

Deefourtay
05-03-2013, 02:18 PM
Good point on the replica class of wheel... but some are built much better than others. I've heard great things about XXR's for example.

I'd choose XXR over Rotas any day shaggie.. My first car had XXR's and I didn't have issues with them

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/15013_383544570783_3639906_n.jpg

LittleEvil
05-03-2013, 03:10 PM
No replicas!!! support the originals who put in the time and effort to make a quality product, just to have it ripped off by a less quality cheaper wheel, that unfortunately sells more SMH.

Deefourtay
05-03-2013, 03:21 PM
I agree, I had some replicas in the past that bent like crazy and turned into s**t. Can't go wrong with name brand wheels, it will cost a bit more but is worth it in the long run. Depends what process they use to manufacture the wheels as well.

2Cool
05-03-2013, 03:33 PM
I'd choose XXR over Rotas any day shaggie.. My first car had XXR's and I didn't have issues with them

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/15013_383544570783_3639906_n.jpg

I am actually considering the XXR 002s, they look very classic on older or retro cars. Just debating the red center or silver.

13VaAbarth
05-03-2013, 03:38 PM
I think the Rotas look very unique if that's the look your going for but the only thing I don't like about them is the shiny lip just seems to draw attention away from the car and too the rim too much.

deathshead
05-03-2013, 04:40 PM
the first wheel on that list looks too "Japanese"

shagghie
05-03-2013, 04:59 PM
totally agree... the banana sports also caught my eyes as candidates...

I am actually considering the XXR 002s, they look very classic on older or retro cars. Just debating the red center or silver.

shagghie
05-03-2013, 05:00 PM
Saw some 9" Allegritas on a Porsche today at lunch... they looked a LOT better in person than they do online...much more aggressive and structured lines than I thought.

Seafarer61
05-03-2013, 08:14 PM
That Rota jpeg has seen more link visits than a Jessica Alba bikini shot. :p I've owned six sets of Rotas since the mid 90's. NEVER an issue. All wheels can have failures.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f8/sugaki/Misc/brokenmugen.jpg

Here's a Volk cracked in five places.
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af175/rarerims/JDM%20wheels%20VOLK%20RAYS%20WORK/volkwheelcrackedinfourplaces.jpg

FWIW, down here in south Florida, pot holes last about six hours. Too many rich people living down here won't tolerate that crap. The roads are quite nice in most of my traveled areas. My last mid-engine two seater was so low to the ground, you could open the door and put your palm on the road. I road with Rota Grids with a sidewall less than 3-inches. Worked flawlessly. I agree with XXR wheels. They're nice. I had a set with another turbo car I owned. Unfortunately, for the one XXR wheel I was looking at, the lowest size was a 17.

Anyways, thanks for the opinions fellas...gotta agree...leaning with the Track R. Super light weight. If I'm going to rock the 16, might as well rock a light one.

Deefourtay
05-03-2013, 08:32 PM
I have no say in what wheels for people to get, but I can only state my .02 cents.. It's your car so more power to you on which ever way you decide to go! That's what makes us all different and a diverse group of tuned cars. :chuncky: I just wouldn't want a wheel to fail, so to be on the safe side.. I rather save up for a legitimate set of wheels!

Anyways, here's my contribution to this thread, Enkei Apache2 classic series looks freshh.. You can't lose with these! Comes in 15x7 or 15x8
http://www.enkei.com/images/classic/apache2_large.jpg

Ferrero1911
05-04-2013, 01:16 AM
Saw some 9" Allegritas on a Porsche today at lunch... they looked a LOT better in person than they do online...much more aggressive and structured lines than I thought.

Here's some Allegerritas on an Abarth. I am very happy with them, but they are not a fan of potholes or breakdust. Red wheels on a white Fiat is a classic combo.

http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r640/Ferrero1911/San%20Francisco%20Trip/file-1.jpg (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/Ferrero1911/media/San%20Francisco%20Trip/file-1.jpg.html)

Seafarer61
05-04-2013, 08:29 PM
Speaking of brake dust, I've had some good results with this stuff.
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/07/06/12/78/0007061278482_180X180.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK2LsZJ2brg

Seafarer61
05-10-2013, 05:15 AM
http://rimulator.com/rim_images/wheels/large/Montage_700.png
Latest consideration. 16x7, ET40 albeit with an unusual 72.62 hub. I'd have to go overseas I think to get rings to match the 58.1 Can't seem to locate anyone stateside selling 72.62/58.1 h/c rings.
With that deep a lip, I was thinking of placing two white scorpion decals opposite each other on the face of the lip. I like doing crazy things like that. Plus, the center cap piece would hide the variation bolts so that's a plus.

I'm finding all the wheels I like have a "40" offset. The Euro dealers say a 40 offset will work (16x7) but for some odd reason, Tire Rack doesn't have any 16-inch, 40-offset wheels for the Abarth yet sells a fair amount of them for other cars. Good grief, the difference between 38mm and 40mm is .1 of an inch. Who am I to believe...Euro wheel dealers with Abarth experience or T-Rack, who stops at 38mm? Anyone have access to the rear suspension to measure the distance between the suspension housing and the wheel edge? I can't get my head under the vehicle close enough to check to see how much room I have to play with but when I snaked my camera up in there, it looks like about one inch at least.

2Cool
05-10-2013, 08:12 AM
http://rimulator.com/rim_images/wheels/large/Montage_700.png
Latest consideration. 16x7, ET40 albeit with an unusual 72.62 hub. I'd have to go overseas I think to get rings to match the 58.1 Can't seem to locate anyone stateside selling 72.62/58.1 h/c rings.
With that deep a lip, I was thinking of placing two white scorpion decals opposite each other on the face of the lip. I like doing crazy things like that. Plus, the center cap piece would hide the variation bolts so that's a plus.

I'm finding all the wheels I like have a "40" offset. The Euro dealers say a 40 offset will work (16x7) but for some odd reason, Tire Rack doesn't have any 16-inch, 40-offset wheels for the Abarth yet sells a fair amount of them for other cars. Good grief, the difference between 38mm and 40mm is .1 of an inch. Who am I to believe...Euro wheel dealers with Abarth experience or T-Rack, who stops at 38mm? Anyone have access to the rear suspension to measure the distance between the suspension housing and the wheel edge? I can't get my head under the vehicle close enough to check to see how much room I have to play with but when I snaked my camera up in there, it looks like about one inch at least.

Big issue is the front strut clearance for higher offsets. There is damn little space there with the stock 205s, less than a fingertip's space. Increasing camber using bolts pushes it even further in. You would likely end up using 3-5mm spacers to make it safe.

2Cool
05-10-2013, 08:27 AM
I have no say in what wheels for people to get, but I can only state my .02 cents.. It's your car so more power to you on which ever way you decide to go! That's what makes us all different and a diverse group of tuned cars. :chuncky: I just wouldn't want a wheel to fail, so to be on the safe side.. I rather save up for a legitimate set of wheels!

Anyways, here's my contribution to this thread, Enkei Apache2 classic series looks freshh.. You can't lose with these! Comes in 15x7 or 15x8
http://www.enkei.com/images/classic/apache2_large.jpg

If there was any way to check fitment on those, I would go for it. They look similar to some old Fiat wheels. 15x7, 38mm offset, 4x100 lugs... might work with PCD bolts and hub rings, but also likely will hit the Abarth brakes/rear swaybar bracket.

Fazzster
05-11-2013, 08:23 AM
I'm sorry but I would avoid Rotas.. Pretty much a downgrade from our original wheels! The 3rd choice you have doesn't look so bad (Sparcos).. May be you can even get some O.Z.'s or BBS wheels.

http://imageshack.us/a/img57/9456/rotasmotivatorcb3.jpg

Having spent some time in the Subaru world I am confident that ROTA wheels will hold up. The Subie community tends to take their cars off-road to rally X and similar events. Many a Subie driver ran ROTAs and I have never seen any failures. Mine never failed. Surely, if ROTAs bolted to a 400hp + STi can hold up, ROTAs on a 160hp Abarth will not be a problem.

LittleEvil
05-11-2013, 10:15 AM
Having spent some time in the Subaru world I am confident that ROTA wheels will hold up. The Subie community tends to take their cars off-road to rally X and similar events. Many a Subie driver ran ROTAs and I have never seen any failures. Mine never failed. Surely, if ROTAs bolted to a 400hp + STi can hold up, ROTAs on a 160hp Abarth will not be a problem.


Gotta love the Subaru crowd that replaces OEM BBS wheels with rotas lol SMH.

2Cool
05-11-2013, 05:37 PM
How about these? Claimed to fit the Abarth, but I worry about caliper/torsion bracket clearance.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronal-Turbo-Wheels-15x7-Fiat-500-Fiat-500-ABARTH-4-lug-98x4-/270886227608?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1213ce98&vxp=mtr

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Ronal-Turbo-Wheels-15x7-Fiat-500-Fiat-500-ABARTH-4-lug-98x4-/07/!B9YF2WwEWk~$(KGrHqQOKpIEy+jCym1uBM5n5n6o)Q~~0_12. JPG

Seafarer61
05-11-2013, 08:12 PM
Gotta love the Subaru crowd that replaces OEM BBS wheels with rotas lol SMH.

For off-road and rally, I wouldn't put BBS wheels through that if a quad of $500 Rotas would fit the bill. I'd rock the BBS' for the street.

As for the Ronals, they're 15x7. No 15's for me. It's a heavy wheel as well, if memory serves me, around 18-lbs, which is a brick for a 15-inch wheel.

Seafarer61
05-13-2013, 09:21 AM
Having second thoughts about moving from 16-inch to 15-inch; especially since this wheel is available at Tire Rack in a 4x100, ET38. Weight of 11.4-lbs. I'm always chasing lighter than stock wheels with tiny sportscars because the benefit in decreasing rotational weight for rides that fall within 2,000-2,500-lbs can be quite noticeable. In this case, the made in Japan Kosei wheel is 7-lbs lighter than stock, dropping 28-lbs of rotational weight would be akin to me losing 75-100-lbs of body weight, which isn't going to happen. :p

Not to mention a 195/50/15 tire, depending on manufacturer, can be 1-2-lbs lighter than a typical 195/45/16 tire, dropping even more unsprung weight.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/kosei/swap/kosei_k1ts_lg_ci3_l.jpg

Digging the Momo's Italian vibe as well. The 15x7 "Podium" comes in at a smidgen over 13-lbs.
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcsstore/B2BDirect/images/MOMOPodiumBlack.jpeg


The Enkei RPF1 is an even better option, weighing in at 9.7-lbs in a 15x7, 4x100 (ignore the bolt pattern in the photo). About $890 a set. The imaginiation wanders, thinking of my Abarth with 10-lb wheels and the Go Pedal. :onthego:
http://www.notre350z.com/forum/files/uploads/Fabien350z/1210881854_rpf1_black_edition.jpg

Ryephile
05-13-2013, 09:59 AM
I'm sorry but I would avoid Rotas.. Pretty much a downgrade from our original wheels!

Ok everyone can jump off the Rota-hate bandwagon. They make OEM wheels in addition to all the reps. Saying they're poor quality just because they also make replicas is disregarding all their OEM-approved design and manufacturing processes. Many Rota models are JWL approved, which are the Japanese performance test and demonstrates far higher quality than anything than can be sold in the USA, where we don't have any wheel strength testing mandated. There's a great post on the M3 forum (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=353224) that outlines all this. Now, a replica that's not JWL approved would be a less-smart idea, as the video embedded later in that thread shows.

The Rota Slipstreams I use on my Lotus for HPDE's are JWL approved by VIA. They've proven time and again by many in the Lotus track-rat community they're solid wheels. Now, the Drag replicas you get for super-cheap at your local Discount Tire, they're not JWL, so all strength test bets are off.

2Cool
05-13-2013, 12:31 PM
Ok everyone can jump off the Rota-hate bandwagon. They make OEM wheels in addition to all the reps. Saying they're poor quality just because they also make replicas is disregarding all their OEM-approved design and manufacturing processes. Many Rota models are JWL approved, which are the Japanese performance test and demonstrates far higher quality than anything than can be sold in the USA, where we don't have any wheel strength testing mandated. There's a great post on the M3 forum (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=353224) that outlines all this. Now, a replica that's not JWL approved would be a less-smart idea, as the video embedded later in that thread shows.

The Rota Slipstreams I use on my Lotus for HPDE's are JWL approved by VIA. They've proven time and again by many in the Lotus track-rat community they're solid wheels. Now, the Drag replicas you get for super-cheap at your local Discount Tire, they're not JWL, so all strength test bets are off.

I had the machined finish Slipstreams on my MINI, worked great with some Azenis at the time to take home the district STX championship for the year. Beat on them hard, even had a snap throttle oversteer into the inside curb on a high speed corner due to mini-van idiot changing into my lane with no bending or breakage. I like the looks, love the price, and they aren't too bad on weight.

Seafarer61
05-13-2013, 01:15 PM
I've owned several sets of Rotas....six or seven if memory serves me, and all the sets were trouble free. Not an issue whatsoever and this was during New England operation, where the roads aren't exactly the greatest.

nojeebs
05-13-2013, 01:16 PM
RPF1s....do it. If you're going for weight though then I'd say Regamaster EVOs or Spoon SW388 (8.5 pounds in 15x6.5) But they're hard to come by.

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shagghie
05-13-2013, 01:19 PM
I've owned several sets of Rotas....six or seven if memory serves me, and all the sets were trouble free. Not an issue whatsoever and this was during New England operation, where the roads aren't exactly the greatest.

Exactly.. my Dad and I have been running Rota's on our classic Fiat's for decades...they are well-respected on the show lawn as well as the big track, no issues.

Which indirectly reminds me... I'm seriously thinking about these, but I don't recall the Panasport offset...does anyone else? http://sarasota.craigslist.org/pts/3770279856.html
http://images.craigslist.org/3Gd3N13Hf5N45O65Fdd4r21096e8ee68d116f.jpg
These would just be for track days with really sticky rubber. I was going to go with a wide 15x8" set-up for max grip, but my driving still has a long way to improve before more grip is ever going to help me actually be a faster driver around the cones...

MAZ
05-15-2013, 08:57 AM
How about these? Claimed to fit the Abarth, but I worry about caliper/torsion bracket clearance.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronal-Turbo-Wheels-15x7-Fiat-500-Fiat-500-ABARTH-4-lug-98x4-/270886227608?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1213ce98&vxp=mtr

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Ronal-Turbo-Wheels-15x7-Fiat-500-Fiat-500-ABARTH-4-lug-98x4-/07/!B9YF2WwEWk~$(KGrHqQOKpIEy+jCym1uBM5n5n6o)Q~~0_12. JPG
^Coming from the VW/Audi world, I LOVE RONALS, and the R10 is the 'holy grail', Nothing says 80's DTM like the R10.

Wheels I want to see on an Abarth:
http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/185392/6423463.jpg
The Compomotive TH2

http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/185392/6423497.jpg
Compomotive TH

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NpalU0sOkKM/TbS-zzeYP-I/AAAAAAAAAgs/-lVwu-jAyGU/s1600/Team+Dynamics+wheel+-+0021.JPG
Team Dynamics Pro Rally

Abarth Daddy
12-26-2014, 07:27 PM
Has anyone tried to rock these yet? They are mopar, but admittedly one of the most badass wheels I've seen for an Abarth. :naughty:
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hownowcb
01-07-2015, 12:37 AM
The mere fact that they're amongst the 4/8/12/16 spoked wheel options pleases me Abarth Daddy. Personally, I cannot deal visually with wheels that have 3/5/6/7/9/10/11 spokes! They just don't "go with" a four bolt hub, and look hideous to me. So consider mine a vote "yes" for these Mopar wheels! I really like the Momos in Seafarer61's post, but couldn't ever justify 15" wheels on my Abarth! I still own (for no reason whatsoever) a set of 14" Momos from my lone-gone VW GTI Convertible from the 80s. Sigh....I'd hoped to use them for winter tire wheels on my Abarth, but they're only 14", and duh, wouldn't clear the brake calipers. Some day...I swear, I will put VW hubs on my two boat trailers, and USE those gorgeous Momos!

Abarth Daddy
01-07-2015, 01:10 AM
Thanks. I get ya... it's about the symmetry expanding out from the bolts. I like it too and why I like this mopar. Also, I think the pic I posted doesn't do the wheel justice. It's a dead on view, and I think that the V's actually punch forward away from the hub for a nice effect, and you can't see that in the pic.

I too would like to see more 4-8 spoke designs, although I'm admittedly a longtime fan of the classic Volk TE37 6-spoke design which I'd love to see for the 500. At least 6 is an even number and wouldn't look so odd on 4 bolts.

Personally, I'm a bit frustrated with the lack of wheel options for us compared to 4x100 and 5x114.3 pcd owners. I know that it's about the $ and there just aren't enough 500 enthusiasts to attract the mfrs to give us more options. Given what's out there, it may be awhile before I find a wheel I really want. GL with finding a home for your momos!


The mere fact that they're amongst the 4/8/12/16 spoked wheel options pleases me Abarth Daddy. Personally, I cannot deal visually with wheels that have 3/5/6/7/9/10/11 spokes! They just don't "go with" a four bolt hub, and look hideous to me. So consider mine a vote "yes" for these Mopar wheels! I really like the Momos in Seafarer61's post, but couldn't ever justify 15" wheels on my Abarth! I still own (for no reason whatsoever) a set of 14" Momos from my lone-gone VW GTI Convertible from the 80s. Sigh....I'd hoped to use them for winter tire wheels on my Abarth, but they're only 14", and duh, wouldn't clear the brake calipers. Some day...I swear, I will put VW hubs on my two boat trailers, and USE those gorgeous Momos!

shagghie
01-07-2015, 01:55 AM
just had a kid and need to sell my 4x98 AG F140's...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/shagghie/Isabella/73992D92-4DE8-487E-AD2F-700445C5F13E.jpg (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/shagghie/media/Isabella/73992D92-4DE8-487E-AD2F-700445C5F13E.jpg.html)

Abarth Daddy
01-07-2015, 05:43 PM
Congrats on the baby! If they were red anodized, I'd be all over them. :drool: Just for grins... what are the specs?

shagghie
01-07-2015, 06:34 PM
Congrats on the baby! If they were red anodized, I'd be all over them. :drool: Just for grins... what are the specs?

You can get them refinished, too.
f 17x8.5
R 17x9
4x98
Custom offsets for perfect fitment.

Horizontally-Opposed
01-08-2015, 12:31 PM
Those Mopar wheels are just plain stunning.

Abarth Daddy
01-18-2015, 10:26 PM
The mere fact that they're amongst the 4/8/12/16 spoked wheel options pleases me Abarth Daddy. Personally, I cannot deal visually with wheels that have 3/5/6/7/9/10/11 spokes! They just don't "go with" a four bolt hub, and look hideous to me. So consider mine a vote "yes" for these Mopar wheels! I really like the Momos in Seafarer61's post, but couldn't ever justify 15" wheels on my Abarth! I still own (for no reason whatsoever) a set of 14" Momos from my lone-gone VW GTI Convertible from the 80s. Sigh....I'd hoped to use them for winter tire wheels on my Abarth, but they're only 14", and duh, wouldn't clear the brake calipers. Some day...I swear, I will put VW hubs on my two boat trailers, and USE those gorgeous Momos!

hownowcb - I think these are what you were gettin' at. Why can't AF mfrs bring these back to fit the new 500s? These would kick ass in a 15 or 16" diameter.

http://www.autoorb.com/abarth-cromodora-magnesium-wheels/racecar-ads.com*eu*photos*2.jpg/

hownowcb
03-10-2015, 07:18 PM
Sorry to spot this so much later, Abarth Daddy, but these are exactly what I'd have chosen if they were available here in 16" or 17" They're gorgeous, and speak so directly to purist/traditionalist taste. I'd initially considered seeking old Cromodora wheels in local junkyards for my winter tires, but quickly realized they'd only be available in 15", and in the wrong offsets -- strictly for rear-wheel-drive Italian cars of the past. When folks started having issues with some 15" wheels not clearing Abarth brake calipers, I just gave up on that quest. I like the winter wheels I ended up with, but these would have been wonderful summer wheels. Thanks for finding them!
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