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stealthy1ss
04-22-2013, 09:16 PM
After 13k miles I have destroyed my brake pads mainly due to track days. A couple of months ago I started shopping around for new rotors and pads but nobody really had anything that I really liked. Personally I think a BBK for this car is overkill and it cost are quite much. Since I am kind of a track junky I like to keep it simple with either blank or slotted rotors and a really nice set of pads. The only real option for us is through RRM with their Tarox pads and rotors but even that was more then I really wanted to spend so I kept on searching. What I ended up finding was some Ferodo Pads from Europe and brand new stock blank rotors from the dealer. Then I ran into a snag with the pads, nobody had them here in the states. After more searching I found out that I could get the Ferodo's at a great price from an online brake supplier so I bought front and rear pads for under $250. Lucky me I have friends that work at the dealership that help me get my new rotors at their cost! FYI to replace just the front pads and rotors with factory stuff it will cost you just over $500. Here are some pics of the new setup.

The new pads come with new bolts for the caliper.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-83260-1366677972384_zps9b90ea1c.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-83260-1366677972384_zps9b90ea1c.jpg.html)

Since these pads were for the Euro version of our cars I was slightly afraid that there would be a size difference but there isn't.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-82213-1366678025297_zps224e5cc2.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-82213-1366678025297_zps224e5cc2.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-49517-1366678088702_zps5869b642.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-49517-1366678088702_zps5869b642.jpg.html)

As you can see I completely destroyed the stock pads. They do well for a while but the short tracks just kill them.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-53845-1366678153085_zps2422730a.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-53845-1366678153085_zps2422730a.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-43747-1366678199754_zps926ef4c3.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-43747-1366678199754_zps926ef4c3.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-34900-1366678295210_zps9ba4e76d.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-34900-1366678295210_zps9ba4e76d.jpg.html)

Finished product
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-60526-1366678342137_zps6fddf322.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-60526-1366678342137_zps6fddf322.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-59256-1366678388809_zps234d1030.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-59256-1366678388809_zps234d1030.jpg.html)

pastor passum
04-22-2013, 11:49 PM
Do they dust as badly as the stock pads? Looking forward to a report. Thanks

Abarth Phreak
04-23-2013, 12:20 AM
Very good find...thanks for doing the research on it. Can you provide more details on the site that you obtained them? Also, how bad a shape were your rotors? Also looking forward to a report when you get a few turns on them.

GoFiatGo!
04-23-2013, 12:20 AM
Which Ferodo pads did you end up going with? Where did you get them from, also what did the stock rotors run you?
I posted this a while back ago in RRM's new brake pad announcement thread.
Ferodo DS2500 for the street
http://www.topbrakes.com/carSeriesDetails.php/45117/Street+Brake+Pads/FERODO/Ferodo+DS2500/2013+FIAT+500+Abarth
Ferodo DS3000 for the track
http://www.topbrakes.com/carSeriesDetails.php/45117/Racing+Brake+Pads/FERODO/Ferodo+DS3000/2013+FIAT+500+Abarth
4 options for rear brake rotors so far
http://www.topbrakes.com/searchResults.php/45117/3/Brake+Rotors/2013+FIAT+500+Abarth?manufacturer_id=

Would also like to add, a quick search returns EBC is making rotors for the Abarth as well
http://www.carid.com/2012-fiat-500-brakes/ebc-usr-series-slotted-brake-rotors-4258756.html?%22cagpspn=pla%22&gclid=CMSd88z437YCFcbb4AodOgkASA

mkawa
04-23-2013, 01:28 AM
can people start bugging the big four (stoptech, ebc, hawk, brembo) to make fitments for our cars now so that we can have nice things later? importing pads is all well and good, but we have good manufacturers over here that just need to invest a little in molds/tooling to make us excellent reasonably priced and easily available enthusiast parts. we don't have the sheer numbers, so we're going to have to substitute some good ole' persistence.

deathshead
04-23-2013, 09:15 AM
Euro Abarth Pads Fit the North American Abarth = HUGE News! this just opened up lots of pad options right off the bat.
Thanks for this update guy!. woohoo

The Ferodo pads are pretty legendary.
for us daily driver guys it will be interesting to hear your feedback on a dusting standpoint.

Now, to find a really bitey ceramic dustless pad.

trevc
04-23-2013, 09:32 AM
Great news. Who did you get them from?
I tried to get some Ferodo pads through Zeckhausen racing but gave up after exchanging a few emails with David Zeckhausen and went with Tarox instead.

Robert Nixon
04-23-2013, 11:47 AM
"FYI to replace just the front pads and rotors with factory stuff it will cost you just over $500."

Really? I can understand a bigger brake kit, that stopping is worth whatever it costs, and that higher quality than OEM is going to be in that price range, but 500 for the stock rotors and pads?

After looking around the Mopar website for Abarth front rotors, I found this for about $42 each:

http://www.mopar.com/part/05154237AA?s=349477&i=789547&b=fiat

SeaDawg
04-23-2013, 01:45 PM
http://www.mopar.com/part/05154237AA?s=349477&i=789547&b=fiat[/URL]

Looking at the www.moparonlineparts.com (http://www.moparonlineparts.com) website it looks like that price is per rotor for the front rotors on my 2012 Sport; website price $28.81 (suggested retail $41.75). For a 500 with PERFORMANCE brakes, which, I ASSUME, are for the Abarth/T; website price is about $68 per front rotor (suggested retail $98.35).

mkawa
04-23-2013, 03:28 PM
he's probably giving us the dealer quote he got including labor

stealthy1ss
04-23-2013, 06:18 PM
Wow lots of questions! :thumbsup: Sorry about not posting exactly which pads I bought. The pads are Ferodo DS2500's for all four corners. I haven't driven around enough with the pads yet to determine how much they dust but they are suppose to be a quieter, low dusting pad. After searching a bunch of places for these pads I found that TopBrakes.com could get them cheaper and faster then anyone else. They were very helpful and quick to respond to my questions not to mention that the pads arrived in the time period that they gave me.


Very good find...thanks for doing the research on it. Can you provide more details on the site that you obtained them? Also, how bad a shape were your rotors? Also looking forward to a report when you get a few turns on them.

I do not currently have pics of the old rotors but I will post some for you tomorrow.


Looking at the www.moparonlineparts.com (http://www.moparonlineparts.com) website it looks like that price is per rotor for the front rotors on my 2012 Sport; website price $28.81 (suggested retail $41.75). For a 500 with PERFORMANCE brakes, which, I ASSUME, are for the Abarth/T; website price is about $68 per front rotor (suggested retail $98.35).


he's probably giving us the dealer quote he got including labor

The quote that I was given of over $500 was from the local dealership, over the phone for just parts. I have way less then $500 invested in this setup for all four corners!

So after driving with them for a few days now and I am very surprised that they bit as hard as they do with out any warming up in this cold weather. Here are some links to the pads.

http://www.topbrakes.com/carSeriesDetails.php/45117/Street+Brake+Pads/FERODO/Ferodo+DS2500/2013+FIAT+500+Abarth
You must use 2013 instead of 2012 for 2012 owners because there is no Abarth option for that year.

mkawa
04-23-2013, 06:30 PM
quieter, low dusting, no warmup? hmmm... something seems unlikely here ;)

glad that you're happy with them.

stealthy1ss
04-23-2013, 06:49 PM
I will give you a full report later. Hoping to get out on Road America on May 5th. That will be the ultimate test. I can tell you though right now when lightly hitting the brakes there is a slight brake squeal that you get from a track pad. Hopefully they modulate well on track.

mkawa
04-23-2013, 07:52 PM
deffo let us know. i like the OEM pad feel for now but we will want to have good descriptions of our options in the community at some point so that people can weigh their aftermarket options

ENZOSON
04-24-2013, 09:37 AM
How about these?

http://www.amazon.com/Performance-Emil4Dsp708-Drilled-Slotted-Rotors/dp/B00CF72LW6/ref=sr_1_14?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1366810314&sr=1-14&keywords=fiat+500+abarth

Pietro

MAZ
04-24-2013, 11:46 AM
Nice find on the pads. I've been waiting for either Ferodo or Hawk to have something for our cars!

GoFiatGo!
04-24-2013, 11:49 AM
How about these?

http://www.amazon.com/Performance-Emil4Dsp708-Drilled-Slotted-Rotors/dp/B00CF72LW6/ref=sr_1_14?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1366810314&sr=1-14&keywords=fiat+500+abarth

Pietro

Pass. I had Slotted/Drilled combo on my RX8 and they eventually cracked after some hard driving. I spent a good chunk of change on those rotors, couldn't even imagine how long a cheap set would last, probably a few months... The best brake combo I've found is a blank rotor, OEM or aftermarket if you like, then the best pads you can afford.

2Cool
04-24-2013, 01:03 PM
Tirerack lists ceramic pads (meh) and an assortment of brake rotors now for the 2013 Abarth. They have slot and slotted/crossdrilled listed. Must be new as they had nothing two months ago.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/results.jsp?autoMake=Fiat&autoModel=500+Abarth&autoYear=2013&autoModClar=

mkawa
04-24-2013, 01:39 PM
awesome, the stoptech stuff is already hitting shelves (that's all stoptech stuff btw, centric is their OE replacement brand)

also proper drilled rotors are cast with holes, they aren't actually drilled. such rotors should not be weak around the holes. if you had rotors that were actually drilled they would be weak and prone to fracturing around the holes. don't buy cheap "drilled" rotors people.

stealthy1ss
04-24-2013, 05:37 PM
awesome, the stoptech stuff is already hitting shelves (that's all stoptech stuff btw, centric is their OE replacement brand)

also proper drilled rotors are cast with holes, they aren't actually drilled. such rotors should not be weak around the holes. if you had rotors that were actually drilled they would be weak and prone to fracturing around the holes. don't buy cheap "drilled" rotors people.

Even the cast ones will crack if you use your brakes hard enough. To me all those fancy rotors are just for looks and cost you more money. If you go to the race track and look at professional race teams cars you will not find any drilled rotors unless they are carbon ceramic. They are either slotted or blanks.

mkawa
04-24-2013, 05:53 PM
100% agree. holes ferrous rotors went out of style many years ago with real racers because it's so hard to keep from disturbing integrity with those kinds of castings. holes rotors were also based on some theory that more effective off gassing was needed that was either always bunk or simply isn't true with newer pad compounds.

2Cool
04-24-2013, 06:14 PM
Slots or holes reduce the friction surface contacted by the pad. The only advantage is under extreme situations when the pad is outgassing, otherwise a blank rotor will outperform a slotted one.

mkawa
04-24-2013, 06:22 PM
well the theory was that if you're outgassing and the gas is disturbing pad to rotor contact it doesn't really matter how much theoretical surface you have

anyways he point is that as fascinating as brake physics are, blank vented rotors outperform everything else under pretty much every condition so anything else is most likely dimb bling

2Cool
04-24-2013, 06:23 PM
Yep, extreme conditions are the only time slotted is an advantage. And new pad technology have pushed those conditions higher and higher.

mkawa
04-24-2013, 06:25 PM
yah, frankly your dot approved fluid is going to be boiling way before any rotor fanciness can kick in

ps, i really really like our oem brake setup. well proportioned, great feel, whole nine yards

Tweak
04-24-2013, 07:39 PM
Forgive my ignorance in asking then, wouldn't it be best to simply upgrade the brake lines and add a better quality pad and leave the rest of the OEM brake solution alone?

I know during the FIAT on the Dragon meet three of us were up front and arrived at our destination and were awaiting the rest of the group to catch-up, once we stopped we could smell brake/rotor and tire from the "spirited" run we had just completed and I'd not mind having a better offering if possible although I doubt I will see a true track need beyond more similar driving when we meet again for another event such as the one mentioned. It'd be nice to have better anything so I ask to make sure that if I get the option to do mods someday again I know the best direction to go.

Thanks.

stealthy1ss
04-24-2013, 10:34 PM
yah, frankly your dot approved fluid is going to be boiling way before any rotor fanciness can kick in

ps, i really really like our oem brake setup. well proportioned, great feel, whole nine yards

Couldn't agree more. My original pads made it through 2 days at Road America and 2 days at the Milwaukee Mile before I started to have problems with them.


Forgive my ignorance in asking then, wouldn't it be best to simply upgrade the brake lines and add a better quality pad and leave the rest of the OEM brake solution alone?

I know during the FIAT on the Dragon meet three of us were up front and arrived at our destination and were awaiting the rest of the group to catch-up, once we stopped we could smell brake/rotor and tire from the "spirited" run we had just completed and I'd not mind having a better offering if possible although I doubt I will see a true track need beyond more similar driving when we meet again for another event such as the one mentioned. It'd be nice to have better anything so I ask to make sure that if I get the option to do mods someday again I know the best direction to go.

Thanks.

People that buy a BBK for a Fiat are probably buying it for looks. With BBK's you need to be able to mess with the brake bias or else it's not going to work very well for a performance application. I have spent roughly $480 for good pads and rotors for all four corners vs a BBK that will cost you $900+ for just the fronts.

mkawa
04-25-2013, 12:22 AM
Couldn't agree more. My original pads made it through 2 days at Road America and 2 days at the Milwaukee Mile before I started to have problems with them. that's bonkers. light cars FTW. are you running OEM fluid too? (impossible!)

shagghie
04-25-2013, 12:31 AM
the Abarth Experience cars run for 20 days around the big track on stock pads/fluids/tires, etc. Tires inflated to 50psi. They never get over heated ....but they do get to cool down every 3 laps, lol. Just saying, this car out of the box drives AWESOME around the track and the pro drivers topped it out in 5th down the straights and were still able to break going in to the 90 degree right at the end of the straight without break fade issues.

mkawa
04-25-2013, 12:55 AM
the Abarth Experience cars run for 20 days around the big track on stock pads/fluids/tires, etc. Tires inflated to 50psi. They never get over heated ....but they do get to cool down every 3 laps, lol. Just saying, this car out of the box drives AWESOME around the track and the pro drivers topped it out in 5th down the straights and were still able to break going in to the 90 degree right at the end of the straight without break fade issues. they have almost certainly changed pads/fluid on their cars during that service interval. they may not have to do it as much as if their instructors were doing all the driving, but i highly doubt they're doing 20 days braking down the big bank at fontana into a chicane without a single pad or fluid change. i mean, insurance man. that said, i can absolutely believe that they're using stock pads and fluid. students aren't doing 20 minute hot lap sessions, and that's the kind of thing that boils road fluid.

Abarthman
04-25-2013, 07:20 AM
$250 for pads for a Fiat sounds like highway robbery.
You can buy pads for a Ferrari for that price.

SuperTony
04-25-2013, 09:51 AM
yah, frankly your dot approved fluid is going to be boiling way before any rotor fanciness can kick in
ps, i really really like our oem brake setup. well proportioned, great feel, whole nine yards

I agree. So I decided to just replace the rotors with these from my favorite company. I have been buying rotors from these guys for nearly 20 years and have used their products on several Range Rovers (weight = 6,000 lbs so brakes are very abused) to several S-Class Mercedes (also heavy) without a single issue. And I drive them hard. My four rotors for my ABARTH was $308 delivered and they arrived at my door in 3 business days. They are located in Southern California.
5944

visit www.r1concepts.com - they have several options available for the Fiat 500.

stealthy1ss
04-25-2013, 05:27 PM
that's bonkers. light cars FTW. are you running OEM fluid too? (impossible!)

That was the first mod that I did to the car. I am using Motul 600 fluid and have never had a problem with it. When my brakes were fading the pedal wasn't so this fluid definitely does the job.


the Abarth Experience cars run for 20 days around the big track on stock pads/fluids/tires, etc. Tires inflated to 50psi. They never get over heated ....but they do get to cool down every 3 laps, lol. Just saying, this car out of the box drives AWESOME around the track and the pro drivers topped it out in 5th down the straights and were still able to break going in to the 90 degree right at the end of the straight without break fade issues.

Those 4 track days that I did with the stock pads were 20-25 minute sessions and you get about 4-5 sessions a day. That is a lot of time going all out.

mkawa
04-25-2013, 05:33 PM
both of those paragraphs are full of awesomeness.

stealthy1ss
04-26-2013, 06:14 PM
Last night I put the new rear rotors and pads on the car. The reason I didn't do it along with the fronts was because the piston on the rear calipers need a fancy tool to properly push them back to fit the new pads. Here are the pictures.

Old vs New
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-64261-1367012560479_zpsdf1a4c39.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-64261-1367012560479_zpsdf1a4c39.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-79182-1367012602528_zps55335340.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-79182-1367012602528_zps55335340.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-20979-1367012643789_zps86cfe3de.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-20979-1367012643789_zps86cfe3de.jpg.html)

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-62940-1367012679097_zps71880aef.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-62940-1367012679097_zps71880aef.jpg.html)

I have yet to take pictures of the fronts which are in worse condition then the worst rear rotor.

Also if you spin your hub it shouldn't sound like this or act like this.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/th_photobucket-34798-1367012893367_zps1d5243c2.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-34798-1367012893367_zps1d5243c2.mp4)

This is what it should do.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/th_photobucket-62310-1367013082181_zpsa7c69c23.jpg (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-62310-1367013082181_zpsa7c69c23.mp4)

The bearing is shot on the drivers side. The front drivers side has already been replaced and this has to be a side effect of over cooking the breaks.

Tweak
04-26-2013, 07:18 PM
So which are the new and which are the old?


Seriously, I wouldn't think they'd wear that quickly or did you just subject them to such an extreme condition on the track that this should be considered acceptable?

Thanks for posting.

stealthy1ss
04-26-2013, 10:18 PM
The last time that I tracked the car last year on the last session I was experiencing a ton of brake fading. I was literally pushing the brake pedal as hard as I could and the car wasn't stopping but the pedal was very strong. The stock pads are great for daily driving or autox but tracking is a no go. The shorter the track the harder it is on the brakes.

Tweak
04-26-2013, 11:24 PM
The last time that I tracked the car last year on the last session I was experiencing a ton of brake fading. I was literally pushing the brake pedal as hard as I could and the car wasn't stopping but the pedal was very strong. The stock pads are great for daily driving or autox but tracking is a no go. The shorter the track the harder it is on the brakes.

Sounds like my plan once $ is available I will get brake lines and nicer quality pads and call it good.

Thanks.

jguerdat
04-27-2013, 08:31 AM
Last night I put the new rear rotors and pads on the car. The reason I didn't do it along with the fronts was because the piston on the rear calipers need a fancy tool to properly push them back to fit the new pads.

Hopefully not a huge hijack but what sort of fancy tool is needed? I'm not at the point of needing brakes yet but I'd like to be ready for the job. Got a picture of anything for context?

stealthy1ss
04-27-2013, 04:01 PM
Hopefully not a huge hijack but what sort of fancy tool is needed? I'm not at the point of needing brakes yet but I'd like to be ready for the job. Got a picture of anything for context?

I don't have a picture of the tool but I will see if I can get one from my friend.

BigDaddySRT
04-29-2013, 07:35 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XwQ2zWfxL.jpg

You should have had this kit anyways... that's if you've owned VW's for the last 6 Years.

BigDaddySRT
04-29-2013, 07:37 AM
And also... any Proper Brake Job needs one of these:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RZUDpXidL.jpg

stealthy1ss
04-29-2013, 05:13 PM
And also... any Proper Brake Job needs one of these:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RZUDpXidL.jpg

The old fashion way with 1 person pumping the brakes and 1 opening and closing the bleeder works just as good.

deathshead
04-30-2013, 09:49 AM
Or just buy a set of speed bleeders.

deathshead
04-30-2013, 09:50 AM
I don't have a picture of the tool but I will see if I can get one from my friend.

The Rear calipers dont have the slots in the piston to screw them back in with a big screw driver?

nerdalert
05-01-2013, 02:16 AM
$250 for pads for a Fiat sounds like highway robbery.
You can buy pads for a Ferrari for that price.

Agreed!

davidjon_99
05-01-2013, 03:46 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XwQ2zWfxL.jpg

You should have had this kit anyways... that's if you've owned VW's for the last 6 Years.

Got that same set for when I replace the rear pads on my wife's Jetta.

stealthy1ss
05-01-2013, 08:05 PM
The Rear calipers dont have the slots in the piston to screw them back in with a big screw driver?

Nope. You need a kit like the one in the picture above.

Update: For anyone that is interested in these pads I hope that you don't mind dust. The wheels were cleaned this past Sunday and now they are filthy. I guess its just the price you pay for stopping on a dime.

Front
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-72289-1367452821720_zpsfce7fd24.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-72289-1367452821720_zpsfce7fd24.jpg.html)

Rear
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-5388-1367452861735_zps3d062e76.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-5388-1367452861735_zps3d062e76.jpg.html)

I am digging my brand new Toyo R1R's (205/45/16).
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-19993-1367452910206_zps68a11a24.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-19993-1367452910206_zps68a11a24.jpg.html)

jguerdat
05-02-2013, 07:54 AM
Nope. You need a kit like the one in the picture above.

Which piece is that you need from that kit?

stealthy1ss
05-06-2013, 07:49 PM
Which piece is that you need from that kit?

Not exactly sure. My friend who has the tool compressed the rear piston so I am not exactly sure.

stealthy1ss
05-06-2013, 08:05 PM
Yesterday I took the car out on Road America and put these brakes through the ultimate test. All I have to say is WOW!!! I am super impressed by the amount of abuse these pads can take and still perform at a high level. For those of you that are familiar with Road America, coming into turn 5 (downhill braking into a sharp right hander after a long straight) I was able to go until brake marker 2 1/2 with ease repeatedly. My entry speeds were between 112mph and 115mph. The only complaint that I had about my brake setup is that the pedal gets a little squish so I will need to put some fresh Motul 600 and stainless brake lines in to cure that problem. Also my group was tested with flags on track. I was going through "The Kink" around 100mph and I saw the corner worker waving the red flag (means danger, come to complete stop at the nearest corner worker station) so I laid on the brakes and did a 100-0 stop in a very short time. That happened after 18 minutes of tracking the car and while we sat on the track the pads were smoking really good. Didn't do anything to the car for the next session and had 0 problems with the brakes. Here are some pictures of my now discolored calipers.

Front Caliper
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa263/stealthy1ss/photobucket-63330-1367883913195_zps3b5648a8.jpg (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/stealthy1ss/media/photobucket-63330-1367883913195_zps3b5648a8.jpg.html)

Rear Caliper
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djhace
10-18-2013, 05:35 PM
nice. i am in the works for new front pads.

stealthy1ss
10-18-2013, 06:05 PM
I did 3 track days on these brakes this year and never really had an issues minus a little bit of mushy pedal which you will get after tracking.

djhace
10-18-2013, 06:47 PM
I did 3 track days on these brakes this year and never really had an issues minus a little bit of mushy pedal which you will get after tracking.

sounds great.