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Felnus
03-02-2013, 11:23 PM
Behold the FIAT Ducato in RAM drag...

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2014-ram-promaster-photos-and-info-news

Andree
03-03-2013, 07:11 AM
Excellent!

That's the model that can also be a people-mover:
http://www.fiatprofessional.com/com/Models/Ducato_Passenger_Transport

Or a camper!:
http://www.fiatcamper.com/

The camper looks depend on who does the conversion, of course. Looked around a little and found a few photos:

Exterior photos (several) from the UK:
http://www.campervan-photos.com/picture/number401.asp

Exterior, interior photos (3) from Australia:
http://www.ozroamer.com.au/jaycos-new-campervan-fiat-b-class-ducato/

Exterior, interior photos (several) from Brazil auto show in 2008 (note sticker saying "Biodiesel approved"):
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2008/motor_shows/sao_paulo/ducato_motorhome/gallery/gallery.html

Andree
03-03-2013, 01:12 PM
I went through their photo gallery and my first thought with it's tiny nose was: "Hey, wait, where's the engine?" But they did the "cab forward" thing there, and it tricks the eye, both inside and outside the vehicle. Makes for a LONG dash inside, but really helps with the illusion of space. And there is tons of window space too.

Felnus
03-03-2013, 02:09 PM
These things should be a hit but they will be facing some stiff competition from Ford's new Transit vans(also a Euro design being brought to the states). If FIAT can manage to get an edge on pricing and back it up with a reliable, low cost of operation vehicle then they are set.

Andree
03-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Agree. The Transit and Transit Connect have been available for years in Europe. I went NUTS over the Transit and Transit Connect. I love this video, Transit, Nurburgring, Sabine Schmitz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03_wVjc

Lots of variations on the Transit Connect, you've probably seen this old concept vehicle from 2009:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/03/new-york-preview-ford-transit-connect-f/

However, there are some things that make me decidedly cranky, like shipping passenger vehicles, stripping them, mulching the seats!, just to avoid a tax:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/22/report-all-ford-transit-connects-arrive-in-u-s-with-full-inter/

And they didn't make the passenger vehicle they are shipping actually available. Totally bogus.

Then this, closing down a factory in an area that bought tons of them (plus lots of neat old photos):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222524/Transit-van-factory-closure-Ford-blasted-1-500-jobs-axed-cutbacks-Dagenham-HQ-end-UK-Transit-production.html

Yes, it all matters. It's not just what is done, it's how it's done. Read some of the comments from people who are devastated with the loss of the company below the article.

Transit Connect for 2014:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/02/chicago-auto-show-2014-ford-transit-connect-wagon/

Felnus
03-03-2013, 09:14 PM
Ford is building the Transit in the US for the North American market.

Yeah, the Chicken Tax thing with Transit Connect is pretty ridiculous. It is also the same reason we probably won't see the Strada in the US. But you CAN get a five seat Transit Connect with all the seats and windows in place just as it shipped from Turkey though, pre-Chicken Tax stripping. The really annoying part of the whole thing is that US automakers have to do crap like that to work around it but they are ones that don't want it repealed because it protects the full size pickup market.

Felnus
03-06-2013, 07:25 PM
Pricing has been released, for those in the market for a work van.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/all-new-2014-ram-promaster-priced-real-vans-start-at-27525/

Andree
03-07-2013, 01:27 PM
Looks like Fiat/Chrysler are going strong in the diesel market:
http://blogs.automotive.com/confirmed-2014-ram-1500-to-offer-3-0-liter-ecodiesel-engine-127829.html

Maybe the Wrangler too:
http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-jeep-wrangler-could-pack-turbo-diesel-power