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MADNESSMIKE
09-04-2012, 01:44 PM
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Purchase both at once and save $100!

Check out one of the best Plug and Play Power Upgrades available for your FIAT 500 ABARTH!



This listing is for a great Performance Package for your FIAT 500 ABARTH. Increase the power and response of your ABARTH by installing these two great add ons. Purchase them at once and save!

Many of our fellow drivers have purchased this set up and many of them asked for a "Package Deal" since they often buy both items.



Here are the details on the Magneti Marelli Engine Controller (see below for the Power Pedal Information):



This is the #1 Power Upgrade for the FIAT 500 ABARTH!!!

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Details of the product listing:

Take your FIAT 500 ABARTH to the next level with this Engine Module by Magneti Marelli.

This is a Plug and Play Unit that has been designed to improve the performance of your FIAT 500 ABARTH. It is designed with OEM Connectors and works with the electronics of your ABARTH to increase power and engine response. The prototype of this unit was installed in the FIAT 500 ABARTH Venom Concept Car and received rave reviews. We have this module installed in our own ABARTH and can verify that it fits and works as promised.

The difference in performance is significant!

You can read more about the Magneti Marelli Engine Control Module here:

http://www.fiat500usa.com/2012/03/fiat-500-abarth-venom-details.html

Interested in seeing the Dyno Results of this and other modules? Please click on the link below:

http://500madness.com/500madness/forums/showthread.php?1190-ABARTH-Engine-Module-Comparison-Dyno&p=3687#post3687



The manufacturer states that the unit typically ads between 25-40 Horsepower to the ABARTH .

We have done our own dyno test and you can see them posted along with additional comments on our forum (link located at the top of the page - "Forum".



Here are the details of the controller:

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The unit is activated only after the engine has reached operating temperature.

The unit deactivates in case of abnormal and prolonged elevated engine temperatures and overheating.

Gold Plated Pins are used in electrical connectors for zero current leakage.

All the connectors are like the Original Equipment connectors.

Limits the increase of power to be within the limits of mechanical gearbox and clutch of the car.

Receives data from the original ECU and sensors and reinterprets them by changing boost pressure, fuel flow, injection timing and ignition advance.

This version of the module will come with a pre programmed Radio Remote Controler. With the Remote Controller you willl be able to switch from the Race/Venom Tune - 77% (button #2) to Performance Tune - 40% (button #1) down to stock (button #1). Please make sure the car is in stationary position when you switch between settings.

Details on the Radio Remote Controler:

The Magneti Marelli Radio Control Module will allow modifying the tune of your car while sitting inside.

You can select to turn off the module and have the car operate at the stock factory setting. You can select to up the power of the car to a more aggressive tune that will provide your ABARTH with an increase in power and torque or you can choose to select a third level which the most aggressive setting maximizing the power upgrade to max.

By adding on the Radio Control Module you will have full control of the performance of your ABARTH at your fingertips. This Radio Controler Module will arrive pre programed to your MM Engine Module and will be ready to use. It is about the size of a regular keyfob and can be easily attached to your keychain. The remote is designed to integrate seamlessly with your Magneti Marelli Engine Control Module. The redmote is included in this listing. We have this optional remote controller with the Magneti Marelli Engine Control Module on our own ABARTH and can truly tell the difference. The difference is night and day and in our opinion the optional remote is a great option.

Without the remote your module will arrive with the 77% Race/Venom Tune Preset. You will not be able to switch back and forth between tunes. With the Remote you will be able to switch back and forth as often as you choose (please make sure the car is in stationary position when you switch).


Details on the Magneti Marelli Power Pedal:

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The newest product from Magneti Marelli for your FIAT 500.

This unit is designed to work with all North American FIAT 500 ABARTH Models.

The new Magneti Marelli Power Pedal. This module is designed to remap the way your Thottle Pedal sends a signal to the ECU of your ABARTH. It is a plug and play device that can be easily installed in less then 5 minutes at home.

The devise has been designed to make the vehicle more responsive. We have been testing this device on our own cars and can inform you that it makes a significant difference in the way the ABARTH responds.

We installed this module and use it on our own ABARTH and as good as the Magneti Marelli Engine Controller is adding this unit to the car in addition to the controller made it even better!

If you are looking to increase the response of your FIAT 500 ABARTH put this item at the top of your list!!!


This Power Pack Combo will come with the optional Remote Control. This remote control will allow you to alter the Power Pedal setting by simply pushing a button and also alter the Power Setting of the Engine Controller all at once! The difference pushing a button makes is simply fantastic!

Select 0 for stock

Select 1 for Performance

Select 2 for Race

To place your order click the link below or call us at 562 981-6800
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Abarth67
09-04-2012, 02:51 PM
Dang, I wish I had waited. I paid full price for both Marelli products as well as the Sprint Boost product. I guess I need to stop being so quick to buy new products. Any special sales for customers who acted early?

MADNESSMIKE
09-04-2012, 03:08 PM
Dang, I wish I had waited. I paid full price for both Marelli products as well as the Sprint Boost product. I guess I need to stop being so quick to buy new products. Any special sales for customers who acted early?

This is a preorder we are able to offer from Magneti Marelli because we are buying in bulk let me PM and we can talk.

Abarth67
09-04-2012, 03:12 PM
Hey, I hope my comment didn't sound like I am unhappy. I love the products I have and would do it all over again. I guess if one is impatient like me, there is a price to pay. I am very happy with the service and parts I have gotten from Madness, thanks.

Guest
09-04-2012, 04:00 PM
Is it not just a $100 saving because you get the remote off one only hence saving from the other?

500MADNESS.com
09-05-2012, 11:44 AM
Hey, I hope my comment didn't sound like I am unhappy. I love the products I have and would do it all over again. I guess if one is impatient like me, there is a price to pay. I am very happy with the service and parts I have gotten from Madness, thanks.

No worries!

THANK YOU for your continued support. Mike informed me about your question. Please PM him and he will work it out for you. :-)

I am glad you like the additions.

500MADNESS.com
09-05-2012, 11:54 AM
Is it not just a $100 saving because you get the remote off one only hence saving from the other?

Hi fidgell!

Nope, it is an additional $100 off.

The price for the MM box with remote and the PP without remote would be $1,199.99. We reduced the set to $1,099.99 plus took off some money on shipping. Over the last 24 hours we were updating some things on the back end of our site and loading more products and features. During a couple of hours the price appeared as $1,199.99 instead of $1,099.99. That may have been the confusion. Sorry about that.

As it is both units are selling out and we have a waiting list (to be filled by end of this week as soon as the new shipment arrives). The truth is we had many folks ask us for a "Deal" if they order both units and we simply decided to reduce pricing to encourage people to buy both at once. This would help us by saving programing time and at the same time it is simply a way for us to say "Thank you" for the support and the orders.

Our goal in the months ahead is to continue to put together packages that will offer our customers some additional savings if they can and choose to purchase some things at once instead of one at a time.

So, with that thank you as always everyone for your continued support! We have many, many more things in the works!

Respectfully,
Boris T.

Principal
500 MADNESS

MADNESSMIKE
09-07-2012, 03:52 PM
Magneti Marelli Engine Controller Modules and Power Pedals have arrived!

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Abarth Five O
09-07-2012, 04:47 PM
Magneti Marelli Engine Controller Modules and Power Pedals have arrived!

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Hurray! :cheerful:

MADNESSMIKE
09-07-2012, 05:12 PM
Hurray! :cheerful:

We are programing them right now and trying to get as many as possible shipped out before the fedex man comes. The others will be shipped on Monday but we are working as fast as possible to get these out to you.

Guest
09-08-2012, 03:52 PM
Any info on the effects of these units with the recent PCM recall?

MADNESSMIKE
09-10-2012, 03:31 PM
Any info on the effects of these units with the recent PCM recall?


That is a good question one I am sure many people are wondering. We were also asked this question on Facebook I will copy and paste the reply from there.

"the PCM recall is unrelated to the controllers and modules. There should not be any issues.

From what some owners have reported to us is that after the reflash their car actually had less power then before. Some were under the impression that some of the cars out were getting a bit more power then they should have and due to this they wet being reflashed.

We cannot confirm this or deny this. We simply do not for sure which is true.

Either way the modules are not related to the reflash. If you wan to be safe and decide to reflash your car you may want to consider taking the modules out and then putting them back in to be safe. This is just a suggestion."

AbarthCDN
09-10-2012, 11:59 PM
Good to know they are unrelated, thx for the clarification.

MADNESSMIKE
09-11-2012, 01:36 PM
Good to know they are unrelated, thx for the clarification.

Not a problem.

MADNESSMIKE
09-19-2012, 01:49 PM
Magneti-Marelli Engine-Controller Modules and Power Pedals are back in stock! We are shipping out orders now for anyone who is waiting! We should have a few left over so if you are waiting to place your order now is the time!

AbarthP
10-08-2012, 09:49 AM
I just helped a friend install both units and after 4 days he tells me he has a check engine light and the car is bogging under acceleration. He turned off the ECU through the remote, but still has the check engine light. Why would this show up after 4 days. The weather has definitely been colder at night. I don't want to reset the light until I get a scan tool.

Guest
10-08-2012, 10:35 AM
I just helped a friend install both units and after 4 days he tells me he has a check engine light and the car is bogging under acceleration. He turned off the ECU through the remote, but still has the check engine light. Why would this show up after 4 days. The weather has definitely been colder at night. I don't want to reset the light until I get a scan tool.

Maybe the light has nothing to do with the stuff you installed?! A scan tool would be the best way to start, check the fuel cap is on right or maybe its just a bit ofcrap in the gas, a lot of these lights disappear on their own after a few cycles.

AbarthP
10-08-2012, 10:59 AM
Maybe the light has nothing to do with the stuff you installed?! A scan tool would be the best way to start, check the fuel cap is on right or maybe its just a bit ofcrap in the gas, a lot of these lights disappear on their own after a few cycles.

Oh it definitely does. The car is in limp mode, undrivable. He said he floored it in second gear last night, got tires to spin and as he shifted to third the car went into limp mode and he had to pull over to shut the engine off. The only way out was by setting the remote to 0 to return the engine to stock. Sound's like an over boost condition to me. I'm getting a scan tool by weeks end. I've asked him to try setting one and to see what happens.

Abarth Five O
10-08-2012, 01:13 PM
Recheck all your connections, make sure their plugged in correctly. Before you plug in the PP make sure you open the driver's side door is open for at least 5 seconds. If all else fails, contact Madness for assistance. They'll help you figure out what's going on. Good luck!

AbarthP
10-08-2012, 03:22 PM
I'll wait for the scan tool because I really don't get why the door should be an issue after 4 days. I get the feeling it has to do with the density of the cold air at night. It was about 38 F when this happened.

EliRider
10-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Call Madness...

For me, I had to remove the Power Pedal.

You can reset your engine check by unplugging both terminals of the battery for ~10 minutes. Then need to reset your date/clock.

If this resolves the issue then your PP may require a firmware refresh. That is what happened to me.


I just helped a friend install both units and after 4 days he tells me he has a check engine light and the car is bogging under acceleration. He turned off the ECU through the remote, but still has the check engine light. Why would this show up after 4 days. The weather has definitely been colder at night. I don't want to reset the light until I get a scan tool.

EliRider
10-08-2012, 06:27 PM
Actually, I encountered 2 different scenarios.

1) MM Power Pedal firmware needed to be reflashed:

Registers error code: P2122, "Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch "D" Circuit Low"

2) Had a missing vacuum plug, car was running fine before the PCM software update. But afterwards...

"Throttle Actuator Control System - Sudden High Air Flow Detected"


After the PCM update...

1) Slowing downhill to a stop... engine would go into limp mode (This is why I thought i was related to Hill Assist at first as a message flashed up indicating something with the Hill Assist attempting to engage even though it was off)
2) Random sputtering... pull over for a stop, back into limp mode

It turned out that I was missing a vacuum plug/clamp located underneath the air intake towards the back left side. I posted a picture in this thread earlier. It would be interesting if anybody else is missing this plug. I suspect it either fell off due to a missing clamp or was missing when car was built. So that part is a mystery unless others are seeing this missing plug as well. I suspect and hoping that my incident was an isolated case.

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AbarthP
10-08-2012, 06:43 PM
Call Madness...

For me, I had to remove the Power Pedal.

You can reset your engine check by unplugging both terminals of the battery for ~10 minutes. Then need to rest your date/clock.

If this resolves the issue then your PP may require a firmware refresh. That is what happened to me.

Ok Thanks. He's driving around fine on button one so far, but two trips the car.

EliRider
10-08-2012, 07:20 PM
This is slightly different then my issue even though similar. It is probably a different issue. But good to check both error codes.

Good luck. Will be interested in what you find.

I have my MM ECM programmed at 60% and 80%. And runs great. What is your friends programmed at?


Ok Thanks. He's driving around fine on button one so far, but two trips the car.

Abarth Five O
10-08-2012, 07:54 PM
This is slightly different then my issue even though similar. It is probably a different issue. But good to check both error codes.

Good luck. Will be interested in what you find.

I have my MM ECM programmed at 60% and 80%. And runs great. What is your friends programmed at?

I thought standard programming for the MM ECU purchased through Madness was 40% and 77%. Did I miss something?:confused:

EliRider
10-08-2012, 09:05 PM
I requested different settings.

What I really wanted is 77% and 83%

But Madness felt it better for me to have 60/80. I like. Now that I have new PCM update, considering increasing settings higher. My opinion is that if I want default performance that sport mode is pretty good. When I activate the MM modules I want the maximum.


I thought standard programming for the MM ECU purchased through Madness was 40% and 77%. Did I miss something?:confused:

AbarthP
10-08-2012, 09:30 PM
His is 60 and 77

Abarth Five O
10-08-2012, 09:55 PM
I requested different settings.

What I really wanted is 77% and 83%

But Madness felt it better for me to have 60/80. I like. Now that I have new PCM update, considering increasing settings higher. My opinion is that if I want default performance that sport mode is pretty good. When I activate the MM modules I want the maximum.

Cool, I didn't know higher settings were available. Was there any extra charge to have it reprogrammed to the higher settings? If I wanted to get my box reprogrammed would I have to send back both boxes back or just the MM ECU box?

EliRider
10-08-2012, 10:05 PM
Good question for Madness.
I might request 77/8x...

They mentioned that at anytime they would reprogram. I assume you pay postage.

I'm not sure how they program the PP. I wish that these units could be end user programmed. There is no technical reason why we could not.


Cool, I didn't know higher settings were available. Was there any extra charge to have it reprogrammed to the higher settings? If I wanted to get my box reprogrammed would I have to send back both boxes back or just the MM ECU box?

Abarth Five O
10-08-2012, 11:17 PM
Good question for Madness.
I might request 77/8x...

They mentioned that at anytime they would reprogram. I assume you pay postage.

I'm not sure how they program the PP. I wish that these units could be end user programmed. There is no technical reason why we could not.

If they could reprogram at 77 and 80+, that would be great, but I suspect at 80% you're already at their max for safety reasons. I'll have to ask them if the PP box has to be reprogrammed too. I'm sure these units could end user programmed friendly but they probably don't want customers programming beyond the outer limits and end up blowing up their motors. Their programs with MM are also proprietary and they would, of course, want to limit their liability.

EliRider
10-09-2012, 05:01 AM
TMC claims that their box at full strength (setting 9) will not harm the motor. In my case, settings 7 & 8 seem to perform better. It would be interesting to see if after the latest PCM update if setting 9 would perform better.

It would also be interesting to understand the near higher limits if the MM modules performs better within safety limits of course.

There are some I heard running at 83 on their MM box with similar "setting 9" limit experience. Thus the reason for the 70/80 setting that I have. Actually I'm very happy with but curious if the new PCM update changes the dynamics of these modules. This is why I'm interested in validating the various firmware versions and module settings understanding the risks.

In addition, when changing out the intake, down-pipe, ... Playing with the settings...

I know I'm splitting hairs but it is fun understanding the limits and how these inline boxs function.

We should probably move this discussion in the Abarth performance thread. Hopefully Madness does not mind us discussing the nuisances of the MM products in the vendor space.

However, I would like for them to consider product supporters with methods to self validate, change, and report back progress.


If they could reprogram at 77 and 80+, that would be great, but I suspect at 80% you're already at their max for safety reasons. I'll have to ask them if the PP box has to be reprogrammed too. I'm sure these units could end user programmed friendly but they probably don't want customers programming beyond the outer limits and end up blowing up their motors. Their programs with MM are also proprietary and they would, of course, want to limit their liability.

Abarth Five O
10-09-2012, 02:24 PM
TMC claims that their box at full strength (setting 9) will not harm the motor. In my case, settings 7 & 8 seem to perform better. It would be interesting to see if after the latest PCM update if setting 9 would perform better.

It would also be interesting to understand the near higher limits if the MM modules performs better within safety limits of course.

There are some I heard running at 83 on their MM box with similar "setting 9" limit experience. Thus the reason for the 70/80 setting that I have. Actually I'm very happy with but curious if the new PCM update changes the dynamics of these modules. This is why I'm interested in validating the various firmware versions and module settings understanding the risks.

In addition, when changing out the intake, down-pipe, ... Playing with the settings...

I know I'm splitting hairs but it is fun understanding the limits and how these inline boxs function.

We should probably move this discussion in the Abarth performance thread. Hopefully Madness does not mind us discussing the nuisances of the MM products in the vendor space.

However, I would like for them to consider product supporters with methods to self validate, change, and report back progress.

It's good to be inquisitive and learn about the upper limits of these boxes in conjunction with our motor and mods to get the max performance out of it without blowing up our engine, nothing wrong with that. After all, we paid over $1k for the combo. But as I recall, Madness stated 77% was the max setting to be in safe zone. Anything above that would be pushing it to the brink of problems, especially if you're pushing high revs and driving hard frequently. I agree this tread should be moved to the Abarth Performance forum by the administrator.