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Chris
11-02-2011, 07:21 AM
FWIW: http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011/10/first-look-2012-fiat-500-abarth/

"The maker is holding back some of the details, but it has confirmed it will offer the new Multi-Air engine, at 130 hp, with the Esse-Esse performance pack expected to bump that to 160."

Jeepnut
11-02-2011, 03:44 PM
I highly doubt that the US Abarth will have less HP than the Euro version in base form

Chris
11-02-2011, 05:56 PM
I highly doubt that the US Abarth will have less HP than the Euro version in base form

We'll see- with all the press centered on those numbers, I'll be surprised at the LA unveil if it has any more.

Fiat500USA
11-02-2011, 10:56 PM
FWIW: http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011/10/first-look-2012-fiat-500-abarth/

"The maker is holding back some of the details, but it has confirmed it will offer the new Multi-Air engine, at 130 hp, with the Esse-Esse performance pack expected to bump that to 160."


OK, because I want you all to be the first to know, here's what I can tell you....

As far as 130 HP goes..... In the words of a really good source... NO WAY !! http://fiat-500-usa-forum-archives.965414.n3.nabble.com/images/smiley/anim_jump.gif

Chris
11-02-2011, 11:03 PM
:anonymous:

Scorpion
11-02-2011, 11:38 PM
OK, because I want you all to be the first to know, here's what I can tell you....

As far as 130 HP goes..... In the words of a really good source... NO WAY !! http://fiat-500-usa-forum-archives.965414.n3.nabble.com/images/smiley/anim_jump.gif

I concur. In Europe, many cars are offered with a dizzying array of engine choices compared to the U.S. So, there may be room for a 130HP turbo engine in the lineup. But, here, they want to keep it simple.

Plus, they know that, or at least should know, that the Abarth will be compared directly with the Cooper S. I wouldn't be surprised if our car basically just comes 'stock' with the Esseesse kit. But, it won't necessarily be marketed as the Esseesse because that has little cache in North America. It keeps the branding simpler for what is a new market for Fiat.

luckymoi
11-04-2011, 04:59 PM
OK, because I want you all to be the first to know, here's what I can tell you....

As far as 130 HP goes..... In the words of a really good source... NO WAY !! http://fiat-500-usa-forum-archives.965414.n3.nabble.com/images/smiledy/anim_jump.gif

So why impact does bolting on the Turbo have as far as MPG?

grapefish
11-04-2011, 10:15 PM
So why impact does bolting on the Turbo have as far as MPG?

It depends a great deal on how it's tuned, but generally a turbo can increase the efficiency of a given engine as long as the driver can keep his foot off the floor. If not, well... :smile:

We have a 2007 Audi A3 with the 200 HP 2 liter, and it averages 28 MPG in city driving, if we're light on the throttle.

Fiat500USA
11-04-2011, 11:00 PM
So why impact does bolting on the Turbo have as far as MPG?

Euro Specs:

1.4L 16V gasoline engine:
Fuel consumption (combined urban/Hway): 6.3 l/100km (37 mpg)

1.4 16V Turbo in the 500 Abarth:
Fuel consumption (combined urban/Hway): 6.5 l/100km (36 mpg)

1.4L 16V Turbo with esseesse (SS) performance upgrade kit:
Fuel consumption (combined urban/Hway): 6.5 l/100km (36 mpg)