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nolalou
09-26-2011, 10:08 AM
I've had my manual transmission Fiat 500 Sport for a little over a month, and just recently installed the EcoDrive software on my computer. After a week of driving, I checked and got a pretty low score. (around 47). The biggest problem it found was that I was shifting at too high a rev. I usualy shift at around 3000 , and it wants me to shift at around 2000. I know I've seen posts here and elsewhere that say Fiat runs best when 'pushed' to higher revs before shifting.

So, do you go for a better EcoScore and MPG, or just drive it the way you feel it handles best and makes it most fun to drive?

Fiat500USA
09-26-2011, 12:22 PM
I've had my manual transmission Fiat 500 Sport for a little over a month, and just recently installed the EcoDrive software on my computer. After a week of driving, I checked and got a pretty low score. (around 47). The biggest problem it found was that I was shifting at too high a rev. I usualy shift at around 3000 , and it wants me to shift at around 2000. I know I've seen posts here and elsewhere that say Fiat runs best when 'pushed' to higher revs before shifting.

So, do you go for a better EcoScore and MPG, or just drive it the way you feel it handles best and makes it most fun to drive?

ecoDrive got me conscious of how to drive to get the most efficient use of fuel and is fun to challenge yourself to get the most mpg, however, it is the opposite of enthusiastic driving. Personally, I mix my driving style, I usually drive shifting around 2 - 2,300 rpm (it's hilly here so you do have to rev it out a little) to keep the mpg up, but will use the Sport button and revs when I feel like or need it.

PFVA63
09-26-2011, 01:57 PM
Hi,

My car was an early Pop without Blue&Me, so it does not have the USB port necessary for eco: Drive. As such, I instead try to mostly drive in accordance with some guidance for "Good Efficiency" listed in the Owner's Manual. Doing this I think I tend to shift at rpms fairly similar to what Fiat500USA listed in his reply above, though on occassion (depending on circumstance) revs may even be a little lower in city driving. However, on hill's or inclines I tend to maybe delay shifting a little as well, as Fiat500USa notes above as well. For the most part, I've experimented with the Sport button but don't really use it anymore.

Overall, I've had no problems with the car, and my efficienvy doesn't seem to be too bad. I try and check what I've got for each tankful of gas, and I seem to average about 34-35 when doing mostly commuting to and from work, plus a little arround the suburbs on the weekends. For the few tanks where I've done more highway driving I've gotten about 42-43mpg per tankful, though on individual highway trips I've gotten up to 50mpg, driving this way.

Regards

Pat

PS. One big thing I've found that has helped my mileage is when getting up to speed, if I try and shift smoothly and not rev too high in the lower gears, it really seems to help. Also, another helpful thing you can do is to have the EVIC computer readout set to show you your instantaneous efficiency which may help you develop a better feel for how much an impact different driving habits may have on your efficiency.

nolalou
09-26-2011, 02:44 PM
Thanks for the replies. I drive mainly in the city, with only a 3 mile commute to work, so I'm not going to get mileage as great as those who do a lot of freeway driving. Right now I'm averaging about 26.6 MPG.
I could improve that a bit with my driving style, but there's no getting around the fact that driving on short trips in a city with stop signs and traffic lights, I'm not going to get mileage up in the high 30s.

luckymoi
09-26-2011, 03:12 PM
With the cabriolet and auto for 1707 miles .... 28.9 MPG... disappointing until
(1) ECO-drive shows a Score of 66 and the coaching says acceleration and braking are areas where I could improve my score.
(2) I watch instant mileage showing what eats gas: stop lights; stop and go on the freeway... people behind me doing Jack rabbits starts at the freeway meter (don't run over me, please! Where are you going, don't you see what's ahead?) only to be stymied by the commute slowing to a crawl.

The car will do better but not with what I have at the time I have it.... I am gonna check the G35, lol. It must be shocking.

Bladecutter
09-26-2011, 05:01 PM
A 47 isn't actually that bad. Right about normal for my gf in her Sport Manual.

To give you an idea of how much worse it can be, she scored a 17 once when we brought the car to a local road course (High Plains Raceway), and played with the car on the track for a couple of sessions. Try not to get that low, and you will do fine.

To counter that 17, and the several other real low numbers she got on the track, getting to and from the track, she had scored high 50's and low 60's, at a pretty steady 80 mph for nearly 70 miles each way.

BC.

F500
09-27-2011, 05:29 AM
..... Also, another helpful thing you can do is to have the EVIC computer readout set to show you your instantaneous efficiency which may help you develop a better feel for how much an impact different driving habits may have on your efficiency.

REALLY makes you aware of your driving habits....bad and good. This is the greatest tool I've found to improve my gas mileage. :)


FYI....my score is a 68 with my automatic.

Nero
09-27-2011, 08:06 AM
I used ECO-drive for about two weeks and got tired of driving like I had an egg between my foot and the gas peddle so I quit using it. I get 33-34 MPG around town and 38-41 on the highway driving the
way I want and having a lot more fun behind the wheel.

buysfiat
09-27-2011, 05:14 PM
I think the eco drive thing doesn't work very well with my car. I have an eco score of 68. Sunday, I was late for work, and I have a 25mi commute. So I was driving like my hair was on fire...80MPH+, changing lanes, accelerating hard, and braking hard. on the way home from work, I though I would drive like crazy again to see how bad my eco score could get. When I plugged it into the computer, I got an eco score of 72 for the day??? Something's not right...

PFVA63
09-27-2011, 07:28 PM
I used ECO-drive for about two weeks and got tired of driving like I had an egg between my foot and the gas peddle so I quit using it. I get 33-34 MPG around town and 38-41 on the highway driving the
way I want and having a lot more fun behind the wheel.

With mpgs like that it sounds like your doing pretty well with your driving regardless of what eco: Drive might say anyway.

Regards

Pat

FITITO
11-23-2012, 01:46 AM
I took my loaner Pop to High Plains Raceway and it was tons of fun! Especially sine it was not my car :-)). I cloud not get it past 86 mph on the straightaway. My S6 and Carrera 4 can hit 117. But the little Pop was a total blast. I got 17 MPGs when I was on the track!

Steve

500ways
11-23-2012, 01:04 PM
eco:Drive software update issue

Recently, I downloaded my USB stick on my laptop as I have done many times before. This time, however, just as it finished downloading, I saw a message that read software update. I clicked on it and it said update successful.

When I reinstalled the USB in my 500, again, as I have done many times before, the computer said update successful, ended and to remove the stick. Did that. After that, the word "Ended" appeared in the EVIC display and did not go away until I removed the stick, turned off the car and restarted it. Upon restart, the EVIC went back to normal, but with no stick installed. I did this at leat 4-5 times to no avail.

Is there a software update that the car needs that the Studio needs to perform? Anyone experience this yet?

capobianco
01-05-2013, 10:45 AM
I've had my 2012 Abarth for about 6 months and have heard about ecoDrive and even have an app on my phone. The trouble is, I have NO IDEA how to set it up or use it. I've searched the forum but have only seen references to people using it but nothing about how to set it up.

Is there a page with specific instructions on how to set it up and use it?

I tend to think I am pretty good with computers but am fairly ignorant on how to get my car to speak to my PC (I assume I use a thumb drive in the USB in the glove box).

RustyPaint
01-05-2013, 10:09 PM
I don't think ecoDrive works with turbos yet.

From: http://www2.fiat.co.uk/ecodrive/#ecodrive/download (under car spec tab)

"ecoDrive can be installed in any Fiat 500, 500C"

No Abarth or 500T listed.

Tweak
01-05-2013, 10:35 PM
I've had my 2012 Abarth for about 6 months and have heard about ecoDrive and even have an app on my phone. The trouble is, I have NO IDEA how to set it up or use it. I've searched the forum but have only seen references to people using it but nothing about how to set it up.

Is there a page with specific instructions on how to set it up and use it?

I tend to think I am pretty good with computers but am fairly ignorant on how to get my car to speak to my PC (I assume I use a thumb drive in the USB in the glove box).

Well back when I had my Sport I used it but I have not with the Abarth. I tired of it after one use (around 2 weeks needed for enough data logging). I am getting an error for the page that was where it was downloaded from at one time http://www.fiat.com/ecodrive/en/default.htm and I went to the FIAT site and checked again and it results in the 404 error, page not found. :( Perhaps they are working on things as I see the site was different possibly due to the holidays.

I was going to say maybe try the UK ecodrive but I see someone else already posted so give that a shot, install it and plug in your USB drive and it should explain things well enough.

capobianco
01-18-2013, 12:33 AM
Thanks RustyPaint and Tweak. I thought I was inept but... Now it leaves me more time to listen to the exhaust and not worry about other things! I love the sound it makes when you are just off the throttle and... I'm off topic so...
I just love using...

Tweak
01-19-2013, 02:28 AM
Thanks RustyPaint and Tweak. I thought I was inept but... Now it leaves me more time to listen to the exhaust and not worry about other things! I love the sound it makes when you are just off the throttle and... I'm off topic so...
I just love using...

Listening to the beauty of the exhaust will make you forget the ECODrive anyway! :D

vashts1985
03-05-2014, 09:00 PM
i get 38-40 so far shifting at 2500-3000. i dont think you are crazy, the car telling you to upshift starting at 1500 is not feasable, unless you want to be "that person" coming off an exit ramp at 35 mph.

its not so much about where your shift points are, but when you use the lower revs to your advantage. if you are cruising at 40+ (abouts, iirc 2000 comes in about 35-38), there is no reason not to be in 5th, for example. save the high revs for when you actually need the acceleration.

Smith1
04-01-2014, 03:17 AM
Considering that I mostly drive city and I drive relatively short distances, I know that my EcoDrive software does not like me a whole lot. However, other than changing gears a little earlier there is honestly very little that I could do to change it. To be more fuel efficient you have to be in your car a bit longer.