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Ando
03-01-2018, 02:51 PM
I think it's fantastic. Maybe not as sexy as the Miata RF but it looks to have fantastic visibility and weighs 35lbs compared to whatever the powered MX-5 roof weighs (too lazy to google sry).

Check it out! (https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/01/fiat-abarth-124-gt-695-rivale-geneva/) It's a month early for April Fools, but please confirm that this is real Chris!

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Fiat500USA
03-01-2018, 07:05 PM
I haven't heard, but people cry about the pricing of the car (which is a bargain compared to the Euro car and even the Miatta) so can you imagine what they'd say about the cost of a carbon fiber roof? None of the Abarth Venom CF was offered because of the cost of OEM quality CF. Wasn't worth it for them.

Ando
03-01-2018, 07:28 PM
That's fair. And we thought there was a lot of fuss about the hand painted matte stripe package, this would be the same x10 for our market.

So it sounds like the GT variant may never come to the US?

Unless I read that short blurb wrong it sounds like the hard top would be in addition to the soft top not as a replacement. It would make a very good option at the very least. Those brave enough to fork over the cash would certainly have something special on their hands.

Same as the hood stripe package, if you don't see the value, don't buy it! It's pretty simple.

Klasse Act
03-01-2018, 07:42 PM
I know we have the aftermarket to give the car more power but I just wish it had a detuned version of the 4C engine in it, say 210 hp but while I'm dreaming, since its an Abarth, give it the full 240 HP!!!

Robert Nixon
03-01-2018, 08:48 PM
Very cool, my guess was that it was going to be Euro only, but who knows!

opiateESP
03-02-2018, 01:07 AM
It looks really good. I would just not enjoy being able to throw the top down on a whim. Great for folks that want a hardtop option though.

Amacento
03-02-2018, 07:08 AM
I think it's fantastic. Maybe not as sexy as the Miata RF but it looks to have fantastic visibility and weighs 35lbs compared to whatever the powered MX-5 roof weighs (too lazy to google sry).

Check it out! (https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/01/fiat-abarth-124-gt-695-rivale-geneva/) It's a month early for April Fools, but please confirm that this is real Chris!

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This is a full-on Abarth Division release. We’re still on the obsolete gen A500. We have no A595. Our A124 required special permission to market as an Abarth. There are lots of reasons to not discuss this. Frustrating is the first to come to mind.

Ando
03-02-2018, 04:17 PM
It looks really good. I would just not enjoy being able to throw the top down on a whim. Great for folks that want a hardtop option though.

That is a conundrum. The GT name implies this upgrade would make driving cross country more bearable.... But what's the point if you can't put the roof down when you get where you are going!? I'm having fun imagining someone smuggling the roof up to their hotel room though.


This is a full-on Abarth Division release. We’re still on the obsolete gen A500. We have no A595. Our A124 required special permission to market as an Abarth. There are lots of reasons to not discuss this. Frustrating is the first to come to mind.

Sorry about that, at least we weren't denied the Abarth branding again? Baby steps... =[ I do think that it should be made available in the US as an accessory from Mopar. The aftermarket is where Abarth made a name for himself, so why not?

Amacento
03-04-2018, 08:31 AM
Sorry about that, at least we weren't denied the Abarth branding again? Baby steps... =[ I do think that it should be made available in the US as an accessory from Mopar. The aftermarket is where Abarth made a name for himself, so why not?
I want NO MORE non-Abarth division packages. FCAUSA should work with Abarth & Co. division to establish the first US-based arm of the business. Mugen, the Honda equivalent, has King Motorsports (employs Honda Certified techs) to service the North American market. Spoon Racing and J's Racing, likewise, have North American representation for Honda of America. I'm all about tuning history... as long as it's true to the spirit of the brand.

Twenty-eighteen marked a new era of fandom for me. I am banging on the drum of "Get serious about the brand/s" this year and beyond. I'm not interested in watered-down heritage.

Fiat500USA
03-04-2018, 12:39 PM
I want NO MORE non-Abarth division packages. FCAUSA should work with Abarth & Co. division to establish the first US-based arm of the business. Mugen, the Honda equivalent, has King Motorsports (employs Honda Certified techs) to service the North American market. Spoon Racing and J's Racing, likewise, have North American representation for Honda of America. I'm all about tuning history... as long as it's true to the spirit of the brand.

Twenty-eighteen marked a new era of fandom for me. I am banging on the drum of "Get serious about the brand/s" this year and beyond. I'm not interested in watered-down heritage.


I think all the enthusiasts want this. The question is how many people would actually sign on? The Miatta averages 10,000 sales or less a year. The GTI usually does less than 20,000 units. It's doubtful the Abarth could reach GTI levels in this country the way the market is now. Honda has been established here for 50+ years with a huge, cult like following even for their mundane stuff. Miata too has been around for almost 30 years and has its own cult. Fiat is still in its infancy compared to these established players.

You can imagine the tiny numbers of Abarths they may sell in this country doesn't make it an attractive proposition to spend the insane amount of money it takes to do things right in this country. Like most things, it comes down to the money and ROI. Still, we can hope. The heritage is sitting there waiting for someone in the company to step up and do something with it. When will it happen? Someone needs to step up.

There should be no reason anyone should walk out a Fiat/ Abarth showroom and not be excited or interested in the Brand.