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Gavin
02-24-2011, 11:42 AM
POST DASH PHOTO HERE :)


Plus lots of other photos and impressions of Fit and Finish and impression of the ride, comfort, performance....oh, and impression of dealer (whether Studio or home delivery)....

I gather this thread will sit mostly empty for another week or two...but somebody has to be the first and they get to have all the fun letting us know about their Prima before we get ours :)

Thanks

Gavin

Giallo Edizione
02-24-2011, 01:09 PM
Free bezel if you are first!

sam500
02-24-2011, 01:47 PM
Is it a free <b>graphite</b> bezel ?!?!?!

<quote author="Secret Bezel">
Free bezel if you are first!
</quote>

Giallo Edizione
02-24-2011, 03:05 PM
<quote author="sam500">
Is it a free <b>graphite</b> bezel ?!?!?!

<quote author="Secret Bezel">
Free bezel if you are first!
</quote>
</quote>
...we don't really know.....

Wimbledon
02-25-2011, 08:27 PM
Not much longer now!

Gavin
02-28-2011, 11:43 AM
At least I get to finally see, kinda, what my Grey Prima will look like...a Grey sport model has been filmed

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YMCzuGPzd8&feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YMCzuGPzd8&feature=player_embedded</a>

Gavin

sjmst
02-28-2011, 12:21 PM
I think the gray will look sharp!

Joe Dolgetta
02-28-2011, 03:37 PM
Hi, anyone heard anything about possible dealer premiums being considered for PEs?
Thanks,
Joe-PE 447 Rossa.

Gavin
02-28-2011, 03:50 PM
Not suppose to happen....but who knows. Hopefully the list of PEs and the dealers they are traveling to will be in the hands of dealers soon (was to be done Friday, but I know my dealer didn't get a list yet)...once the dealer contacts you and gives you a price, well then we will know.

Hopefully today.

Gavin

5*(10)^2
02-28-2011, 04:45 PM
I have a feeling the 'premium' will be embedded in the doc fee.

sketch
02-28-2011, 05:49 PM
It's up to the dealer. They'd better not, though, lest they expect me to tell their home delivery service to turn around and drive the five and a half hours back to the dealer.

Fiat500USA
02-28-2011, 06:54 PM
<quote author="Joe Dolgetta">
Hi, anyone heard anything about possible dealer premiums being considered for PEs?
Thanks,
Joe-PE 447 Rossa.
</quote>

Hi Joe,

Welcome to the forum! The only thing I've heard is some dealers are charging $$ in doc fees. I guess it depends on your state (and dealer). Some dealers wave them, some don't. Some states have limits on doc fees.

It doesn't seem that they are charging extra because it's a Prima, it's just what some dealers do. I'm in NY and the limit is something like $45-$55, which I think is reasonable, but check with your dealer.

Joe Dolgetta
02-28-2011, 07:25 PM
Hi, and Thanks for the welcome!

I do remember reading that the destination charge was included in the $19,500, but are doc fees above and beyond destination fees? Guess I'll know soon enough...I do hope they don't start hitting us with primiums. Won't be very cool. The Fiat rep informed me that I will be taking delivery from either Team Toyota Mall of Georgia or Team Hyundai Mall of Georgia dealer here in the Buford Ga area. Eventually, "Team Fiat Mall of Georgia" will open in April. Located only 5 miles from home. Their all owned by Auto Nation. I hope to hear from a dealer rep this week.

Gavin
02-28-2011, 07:37 PM
Doc fees are different than delivery...covers paperwork, Motor Vehicle stuff, tags...

Usually not a lot of money...anything over 200 bucks would be suspect.

As for the Prima final price...will vary a bit from state to state due to taxes being wildly different from state to state...I roughly figured just around $20,350 for me here in New Mexico...

19500 for car and delivery

Fees: $150 Doc fee, $5 Service fee, $76 License fee, $33 Title fee (mine might be a bit more than average as I am getting mine from a different state...but about 250 bucks over the 19500 isn't too bad)--total 259.

3% NM taxes...(that is a nice little bonus...Texas, where the car dealership is, has a much higher tax rate...so about 590 give or take...not sure if they tax on 19500 or include tax on price and the fees.)

so 19500 + 259 doc fees and misc stuff + 590ish in taxes----

And they are bringing the car to my driveway (265 miles) for free (well Fiat is paying them...but part of the 19500 including destination).

Gavin

FiATL
02-28-2011, 07:57 PM
I'm supposed to be getting mine there too. Was told the doc fee is $579. The dealer in Morrow was at $589 I think. Before anyone outside of GA gets all up in arms, that is just how EVERY dealer in the Atlanta area does business. It sucks but the law allows it as long as the dealer charges EVERYONE the same fee. I've actually purchased cars in several other states to avoid this. This time, I don't have the time to try to get my Prima sent elsewhere and take time off to go get it.

What color are you getting peppydee?

FiATL
02-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Joe, nevermind, I saw your number and color in a previous post. Keep me posted if you hear from the dealer, and I will do the same for you.

Springer2011
02-28-2011, 10:26 PM
I ordered a Sport model on 2/24/11. Here is a summary of fees.

1) The $ 500 delivery fee is not included in the price.
2) Doc fees $ 55
3) Liscense fee for California
4) Tax for California about 9.5% give or take a little
5) May be emissions fee, I have to wait and see. If so will be on factory sticker.
5) No dealer prep charge
6) No mark ups
7) Safety and convenience + Safety and sound was actually $ 120 less in total. Redundant package features.
8) They will pick me up at airport.
9) They said some of the options like graphics are not available yet from factory.
10) 4-6 week delivery

I ordered Sport, Giallo, Nero/Grigio, auto, safe/conv, safe/sound, red/white/blue sidestripe.

Joe Dolgetta
03-01-2011, 12:16 AM
Hi Chris, I'll keep you posted. Bet they get there together. Your right about GA dealers and their arrogance about their fees. $595 for what amounts to zip is highway robbery. Ought to be illegal. BTW, mine will also have the sunroof.

Gavin
03-01-2011, 11:58 AM
<quote author="Gavin">
Doc fees are different than delivery...covers paperwork, Motor Vehicle stuff, tags...

Usually not a lot of money...anything over 200 bucks would be suspect.

As for the Prima final price...will vary a bit from state to state due to taxes being wildly different from state to state...I roughly figured just around $20,350 for me here in New Mexico...

19500 for car and delivery

Fees: $150 Doc fee, $5 Service fee, $76 License fee, $33 Title fee (mine might be a bit more than average as I am getting mine from a different state...but about 250 bucks over the 19500 isn't too bad)--total 259.

3% NM taxes...(that is a nice little bonus...Texas, where the car dealership is, has a much higher tax rate...so about 590 give or take...not sure if they tax on 19500 or include tax on price and the fees.)

so 19500 + 259 doc fees and misc stuff + 590ish in taxes----

And they are bringing the car to my driveway (265 miles) for free (well Fiat is paying them...but part of the 19500 including destination).

Gavin


</quote>


Forgot to ADD:

Minus the 500 dollar deposit...so less than 20k will be owed to Fiat when it gets delivered to my driveway

Gavin

Carabinieri
03-01-2011, 03:29 PM
<quote author="Joe Dolgetta">
Hi Chris, I'll keep you posted. Bet they get there together. Your right about GA dealers and their arrogance about their fees. $595 for what amounts to zip is highway robbery. Ought to be illegal. BTW, mine will also have the sunroof.
</quote>

As soon as those words leave the dealer's mouth, I'll leave the dealer.

Doubt if they'll have any trouble selling #160, but it will not be to me.

The FIAT promised fun, and I have no doubt it'll deliver. I'll wish FIAT (and you all) the best, but I don't need another vehicle so badly just now that I'd pay that scam.

So, if that's the firm line, I'll stick to romping with my Guzzis and the MINI for awhile.

Non m’importa niente.

Gavin
03-01-2011, 07:33 PM
Edit...who will be delivering my Prima might or might not be in flux.

Had some confusing info, but my dealer has asked me to wait a bit before posting...

of course that was after I already posted :)

So I'm editing this to erase the "details" and just leave this post as confused as I am right now...

oh well...ce la vie.

what, that's french...i don't know how to say it in Italian...

Gavin

Giallo Edizione
03-01-2011, 07:45 PM
If I were Laura I'd start circulating my resume right about now.

Gavin
03-01-2011, 08:16 PM
eh...i expect problems and some delays in a Launch.

that said....500 cars shouldn't be too horribly hard to get from factory to dealers.

oh well...i wait in slight bewilderment...not angry, just a bit dazed and confused.

Gavin

Mike S
03-01-2011, 08:36 PM
in Italian you could use È LA VITA for c'est la vie.

5*(10)^2
03-01-2011, 11:23 PM
Gavin,

I think I might have missed an earlier discussion somewhere. Were you upset because we are suppose to get the PE sooner than later? I was told mid-march by my dealer.

Also, from what I gathered, the 500s traveled by train from Toluca. Assuming they did make a few stops between Toluca and the US border, then redistribute the 500s to various modes of transport (maybe some continue on the same train, some on trucks via highway), I would think it will take about 3 weeks for the very north of USA.

Those in AZ, So Cal, TX, NM, FL might see the PEs sooner maybe?

Gavin
03-02-2011, 03:49 AM
Nope...I've been without a car for six years...waiting a bit longer is fine by me...

A different issue...will know more in a couple of days...till I get final word from Fiat, well I will just wait before saying more as the dealer I've been working with has ask me to...well not go posting it on the Internet...

Gavin

Gavin
03-02-2011, 03:54 AM
Ps...I'm in New Mexico...but no dealer in NM til winter...so I can't get mine locally.

Anyways...not angry, just some confusion between Fiat and me and the dealership Fiat said the Prima was going too. Hopefully worked out soon.

Gavin

PE#454
03-02-2011, 12:08 PM
<quote author="5*(10)^2">...Also, from what I gathered, the 500s traveled by train from Toluca. Assuming they did make a few stops between Toluca and the US border, then redistribute the 500s to various modes of transport (maybe some continue on the same train, some on trucks via highway), I would think it will take about 3 weeks for the very north of USA.

Those in AZ, So Cal, TX, NM, FL might see the PEs sooner maybe?</quote>
I believe (as I think someone has noted elsewhere here) that <I>all</I> of the cars go directly from Toluca by rail to Michigan. (Presumably that is the sole site where the magic wand is waved over them to become 'Americanized.') <smiley image='smiley_wink.gif'/> After that, the respective distance from Michigan to authorized dealer would determine their continued mode of transport (whether rail again or 18-wheel vehicle transport) as well as their ETA.

Giallo Edizione
03-02-2011, 12:16 PM
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
If I were Laura I'd start circulating my resume right about now.
</quote>

edit:

-500's were supposed to launch in January, now March
-130 dealers were supposed to be open for launch, now half will not open till much later in year, the rest dribbling out in coming months
-PE's were supposed to be the first cars delivered. Now just part of a couple of thousand being delivered for dealer stock ( my assigned dealer has posted a dozen incoming on their website including pictures, color and details, but has no idea where mine is or when it will arrive)
-No one is willing to tell us what a bezel is or what color the dash insert will be, or communicate on anything for that matter ( except for pictures of some seats and early production body panels).
-No pictures or other evidence of the build of 500 PE's except one picture of 3 cars loading on a truck, exactly one of each color. hmmmm
-Excessive cost for "home delivery"
-Dealer gouging already, disguised as dealer fees
-Content of US PE never confirmed
-Some PE reservists never were called for final confirmation of order
-Chaos over where PE's will be delivered
-Only Sports will be available at launch and n

MrJones
03-02-2011, 12:16 PM
My dealer told me the Fiat car warehouse is in Dallas. Does this mean that's where our Primas are? I don't know that.

Giallo Edizione
03-02-2011, 12:36 PM
<quote author="5*(10)^2">
Gavin,

I think I might have missed an earlier discussion somewhere. Were you upset because we are suppose to get the PE sooner than later? I was told mid-march by my dealer.

Also, from what I gathered, the 500s traveled by train from Toluca. Assuming they did make a few stops between Toluca and the US border, then redistribute the 500s to various modes of transport (maybe some continue on the same train, some on trucks via highway), I would think it will take about 3 weeks for the very north of USA.

Those in AZ, So Cal, TX, NM, FL might see the PEs sooner maybe?
</quote>

The Los Zetas drug gang hijacked the train and all the PE's are being held for ransom. Pay your dealer a $500 "documentation fee" and they will release your car.

sjmst
03-02-2011, 01:00 PM
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
If I were Laura I'd start circulating my resume right about now.
</quote>

edit:

-500's were supposed to launch in January, now March
-130 dealers were supposed to be open for launch, now half will not open till much later in year, the rest dribbling out in coming months
-PE's were supposed to be the first cars delivered. Now just part of a couple of thousand being delivered for dealer stock ( my assigned dealer has posted a dozen incoming on their website inclduing pictures, color and details, but has no idea where mine is or when it will arrive)
-No one is willing to tell us what a bezel is or what color the dash insert will be, or communicate on anything for that matter ( except for pictures of some seats and early production body panels).
-No pictures or other evidence of the build of 500 PE's except one picture of 3 cars loading on a truck
-Excessive cost for "home delivery"
-Dealer gouging already, disguised as dealer fees
-Content of US PE never confirmed
-Some PE reservists never were called for final confirmation of order
-Chaos over where PE's will be delivered
-Only Sports will be available at launch and no au

sjmst
03-02-2011, 01:01 PM
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
<quote author="5*(10)^2">
Gavin,

I think I might have missed an earlier discussion somewhere. Were you upset because we are suppose to get the PE sooner than later? I was told mid-march by my dealer.

Also, from what I gathered, the 500s traveled by train from Toluca. Assuming they did make a few stops between Toluca and the US border, then redistribute the 500s to various modes of transport (maybe some continue on the same train, some on trucks via highway), I would think it will take about 3 weeks for the very north of USA.

Those in AZ, So Cal, TX, NM, FL might see the PEs sooner maybe?
</quote>

The Los Zetas drug gang hijacked the train and all the PE's are being held for ransom. Pay your dealer a $500 "documentation fee" and they will release your car.
</quote>
For that ransom will they also peel off the 70's inspired black stripe?

CaliberSRT4
03-02-2011, 01:09 PM
<quote author="PE#454">
<quote author="5*(10)^2">...Also, from what I gathered, the 500s traveled by train from Toluca. Assuming they did make a few stops between Toluca and the US border, then redistribute the 500s to various modes of transport (maybe some continue on the same train, some on trucks via highway), I would think it will take about 3 weeks for the very north of USA.

Those in AZ, So Cal, TX, NM, FL might see the PEs sooner maybe?</quote>
I believe (as I think someone has noted elsewhere here) that <I>all</I> of the cars go directly from Toluca by rail to Michigan. (Presumably that is the sole site where the magic wand is waved over them to become 'Americanized.') <smiley image='smiley_wink.gif'/> After that, the respective distance from Michigan to authorized dealer would determine their continued mode of transport (whether rail again or 18-wheel vehicle transport) as well as their ETA.
</quote>
All the Fiat 500s do not go to Michigan. The demo units are being shipped from Michigan because they are pre-production units and kept at the Chrysler facilities (these cars have been there for a few months, they aren't fresh from the factory). They've been shipping them out

5*(10)^2
03-02-2011, 01:18 PM
Thanks all for the discussion. It's good to see how passionate we are about the PEs. <smiley image='smiley_happy.gif'/>

Regarding Sacred Bezels' points, I have to strongly agree with them especially the point on the exclusivity of owning a PE first is thinning out. I can't believe the regular 500s are being delivered as well. And of course the suspense on keeping us in the dark on the interior bits.

As for advertising, what I witnessed so far is Fiat did a huge ad for a side of the building by the highway here in So Cal near LAX. I need to take a picture and post here. That ad has been there since Oct/Nov 2010. I am not sure if this is replicated across the nation or just the major cities.

Gavin
03-02-2011, 02:26 PM
Well I just got a call from FIAT, so now I can rant a bit.

My car was supposed to go to El Paso. Had many lovely emails with the director there. All the info was set up and such. 260 miles from my house, but they were going to deliver right to my house.

So, while not as nice as getting in town, was going well and very pleasant.

Yesterday I get an email saying El Paso is now not allowed to process my delivery and that my Prima will likely go to Austin or Dallas (about 700 miles away and I have not talked to either dealership).

What I liked about El Paso Fiat (other than the good email communication) is that they are literally on the New Mexico/ Texas border and sell many many cars to people in southern New Mexico...so they know all the paperwork and fees and such.

So Fiat calls me today...my Prima is going to freaking Memphis, Tenn....over 1000 miles aways and I am sure they have no sales to New Mexico and have no idea about our MVD and such.

GRRRRRRR....So I will call them, call Austin and then decide on what to do with my Prima...about 50 / 50 I will now cancel my order...will wait a bit to calm my head a bit...but I really don't NEED a car, so maybe I just wait for the Ele

Minuszka
03-02-2011, 02:40 PM
Gavin, I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I did too establish a relationship with the dealer closest to me, just to find out about two weeks ago that they're not authorized to deliver my PE.
I hope you can find a solution other than canceling your order! We were not supposed to hit roadblocks this late in the process...

Gavin
03-02-2011, 02:59 PM
Thanks....the crazy thing is I just established that dealer relationship 2 weeks ago when Fiat called me and told me they were my dealership...

Then yesterday I get the email from that dealer saying she can't take delivery, even though she would love too.

Then I call Fiat last night and they say, nope, El Paso is still your dealer.

Then today at work, opps, sorry, 1000 miles away across 3 state lines is your new dealership....

I have no idea on delivery, on cost, on anything...very frustrated right now.

Hey Los Angeles...Hey Austin....want my Prima to come through your dealership? Send me a message....info on costs (fees and such), delivery and how you do state taxes and I will call Fiat and have the car come through you...if you want.

Heck, Memphis text me too...I'm not anti-Memphis....heck The King was from Memphis....just a bit surprised by the late change and the distance and not knowing what new costs and such might be involved.

Gavin

sketch
03-02-2011, 03:01 PM
That wouldn't be so bad... hell, Memphis isn't even 50 miles further than Shreveport! :P

Minuszka
03-02-2011, 03:11 PM
So Gavin, you'd bike to one of these places? ;-)
As far as I know the state tax is for your home state, it's not the tax of the state you pick up the car.

MrJones
03-02-2011, 03:19 PM
Better yet, have it sent to Milwaukee and I'll personally drive it down to you!

Also, I think I heard the K.C. dealer (Olathe, KS) is handling Primas--that would be closer than Memphis. Or Phoenix? Or Salt Lake?

5*(10)^2
03-02-2011, 03:24 PM
Gavin,

How about this...have it delivered in Los Angeles (Motor Village LA) then drive around LA, show off the car in Hollywood, Beverly Hills, then take a nice road trip back to NM?


Disclaimer: I do not work for Motor Village LA.

Gavin
03-02-2011, 04:00 PM
Well I did email Austin, Memphis and Los Angeles...lets see what happens...

Not trying to be a complainer...I don't think that's what I am...was just taken by surprise and I also already had all the finances figured out...

If the deal is suddenly more expensive...well I probably won't buy...but that is my decision and not a statement on Fiat.

Gavin

PE#454
03-02-2011, 04:25 PM
Thanks for the reply, Cal.

sjmst
03-02-2011, 04:34 PM
Sorry to hear that Gavin. I think you have a right to be upset, to say the least. Did Fiat say WHY Elpaso or a closer dealer is not "authorized?" Will Fiat pay to have your car shipped halfway across the country?
They should.
You've been here so long seeing you drop out would be like losing a member of the family.

Gavin
03-02-2011, 04:45 PM
ha...thanks

talking to Fiat now (on hold...yeah for crappy pop music :) )

Memphis had no idea about my car...just talked to a nice gentleman...he seemed surprised too...he would have to travel with the car for my home delivery...2000 miles to sell a car is real far.

Gavin

edit...so the Fiat rep has just transfer my dealer to Austin (so far I've gone from El Paso dealer to Memphis dealer to Austin dealer...soon I might set a record of some sort)...so closer...still far---700 miles vs 1000. And I still don't have any info on delivery...and now I feel bad for seeming to diss Memphis.

Oh well. Austin should call me in a day or two and I can get some info and go from there.

MrJones
03-02-2011, 04:50 PM
Maybe Laura and Sergio will drive it out to you? What a great buddy road-trip movie that would be!

Gavin
03-02-2011, 05:06 PM
ha...well if they do that I will make sure to have a bottle of wine for them...do you think they will drink Trader Joe wine?

Gavin

sjmst
03-02-2011, 05:23 PM
In keeping with the 500 "small" theme you should serve out of those mini airline bottles.

MrJones
03-02-2011, 05:27 PM
Ha! Two-buck Chuck, for sure!

PE#454
03-02-2011, 06:49 PM
I don't have a Trader Joe's near me, but I believe it's now Three-Buck Chuck (doesn't quite have the same ring, does it?)

RacerRon
03-02-2011, 08:15 PM
Gavin, I think Fiat should fly your car in and drop it with a parachute in front of your house.

small car lover
03-02-2011, 08:57 PM
I think they could use a helicopter, paint it to look like a stork, and hang the 500 underneath in a blanket.

CaliberSRT4
03-02-2011, 09:55 PM
With how small and light the 500 is, they could use a regular stork and save money on paint. <smiley image='smiley_grin.gif'/>

PaulL
03-02-2011, 10:54 PM
Hey guys,
I would just like to take a second to introduce myself, my name is Paul and I'm the studio lead for Fields FIAT of Highland Park (northern suburb of Chicago). I, just like most of you guys here, am SUPER EXCITED to get get the 500's here ASAP. (Can't wait to get one as a demo, as they are a ton of fun to drive!)

I was messing around in chryslers dealer site and noticed a couple days ago that the Prima customers are showing in our inbound inventory. As i finally had some free time today I checked the VIN numbers in VinVision (Chrysler's tracking program) and noticed that the majority of the Prima cars that we are getting are already in Illinois at the Belvidere lot, about 30 miles northeast of Chicago!

Also I'm not sure if all you guys have your VIN numbers, but it looks like they are 3C3CFFBR6CT500XXX with the last three xxx's representing your Prima number.

sketch
03-02-2011, 10:57 PM
Would you mind trying the one that ends in 087? :D

PaulL
03-02-2011, 11:03 PM
I jumped to conclusions cause when i put the whole VIN that i said earlier it didn't work with 087, but when i did just the last 8 it pulled it up. Disregard the entire VIN thing<smiley image='anim_crazy.gif'/>

It says the current location is Reisor, LA!

PaulL
03-02-2011, 11:12 PM
I would still take that information with a grain of salt. Seeing the vehicle tracking in action with previous chrysler products, i learned that it's not entirely accurate all the time. I've had cars get delivered to us and the next day it still showed that it was sitting in some storage yard. But it's better than nothing.

Fiat500USA
03-03-2011, 12:42 AM
<quote author="Gavin">
ha...thanks

talking to Fiat now (on hold...yeah for crappy pop music :) )

Memphis had no idea about my car...just talked to a nice gentleman...he seemed surprised too...he would have to travel with the car for my home delivery...2000 miles to sell a car is real far.

Gavin

edit...so the Fiat rep has just transfer my dealer to Austin (so far I've gone from El Paso dealer to Memphis dealer to Austin dealer...soon I might set a record of some sort)...so closer...still far---700 miles vs 1000. And I still don't have any info on delivery...and now I feel bad for seeming to diss Memphis.

Oh well. Austin should call me in a day or two and I can get some info and go from there.
</quote>


Wow Gavin, what a soup sandwich! I'm sorry to see you go through all these twists and turns. Man, I hope it works out after all this. Keep us informed...

Gavin
03-03-2011, 01:10 AM
Thanks Chris...it was a bit frustrating today, but I'm a big boy and can handle it :)

Gavin

Thad
03-03-2011, 11:27 PM
Paul, can you check on #100 and #164? they are both headed to the same place. Thanks!

PaulL
03-04-2011, 12:13 AM
#100 current location and destination Twin Oaks, PA
#164 On Railcar, Port Laredo, TX destination Lordstown, OH, ETA 3/8

Thats weird if their going to the same place. I guess #164 will have another destination once it reaches OH. I have about a 75% faith in the accuracy of the VIN tracking system. <smiley image='anim_confused.gif'/>

Fiat500USA
03-04-2011, 12:35 AM
<quote author="Thad">
Paul, can you check on #100 and #164? they are both headed to the same place. Thanks!
</quote>


Hey Thad, welcome to the forum! Looks like you're really getting close!

jvsgabriel
03-04-2011, 12:52 AM
Hi Paul, is there a way you could see where #366 is, it shuld be going to Carlsbad CA. Thanks a lot, tried calling the dealer but no luck getting their Fiat specialists on the line. Thanks again.

Joel

Thad
03-04-2011, 08:47 AM
Wow. Thanks. The Twin Oaks rail yard is very close to my house. This is a major distribution point for this area outside Philadelphia.
When Fiat called my son about delivery for car 164, they told him they figured it would be delivered to Bob and Chuck Eddy in Ohio. He told them that was wrong and to deliver it the same as my car. I hope that's not all screwed up now. Ergh!

Prima 109
03-04-2011, 12:04 PM
That's funny Thad, I live in Greensburg near Pittsburgh, and said Downingtown was close to me. I told her it's near Philly and I'm near Pitts, mines going to Bob & Chucks.<smiley image='smiley_oh.gif'/>

craig

Gavin
03-04-2011, 01:36 PM
Hey, I lived in Greensberg for a year...gah, 1973?? Seventh grade at Greensberg Middle.

Was a huge culture shock moving from Berkeley, Ca to Greensberg, PA...Long Hippy hair, cat named Love...everyone thought I was a girl...goodtimes...

Gavin

Gavin
03-04-2011, 02:00 PM
well if 137 is still in Santa Rosa tomorrow, I will be taking a trip slightly outside my On-Call zone to see if there is a fence I can climb :)

Gavin

Prima 109
03-04-2011, 02:04 PM
Yep. It's right on North Main St up from the courthouse.<smiley image='smiley_cool.gif'/>

Craig

Gavin
03-04-2011, 02:14 PM
ha, is there still the Catholic school across the street? Hate to be a cliche, and I was 12, but in Geography (yes we had geography class back then) I would spend half the class looking out the window at the girls in uniforms playing 4 square.

gah, now i sound creepy... :) hey, i was a kid.

i use to ditch class and walk along the rail tracks to a small park maybe a half mile from school...and i remember a swimming pool and roller rink...but that wasn't near the school. we were poor...lived in some apartments behind the Sears.

anyways...back to Fiat 500 topics :)

Gavin

Mike S
03-04-2011, 02:20 PM
Paul,

You seem to have the answers. Could you tell me the location of #289?

Thank you.

Chris
03-04-2011, 02:29 PM
I'm just champing at the bit for the Prima--Paul (oops, got the name wrong the first time), would you mind giving the whereabouts of 398 as well? It's still below freezing here and I've been biking 20miles a day, must - have - fiat! <smiley image='smiley_thinking.gif'/>

Prima 109
03-04-2011, 03:04 PM
Yes the Catholic school is still there and the park you mentioned is called Saint Clair Park, they have an ampitheature now and have concerts (free) in the summertime.

craig

Vlad92
03-04-2011, 08:01 PM
Can you help a fellow mid-westerner out and check on # 92 please Paul? Many thanks in advance!!! Vlad

CIAO RR
03-05-2011, 03:24 PM
So how does one find out about the status of their PRIMA?? My dealer seems to be clueless.

Thx.<smiley image='anim_confused.gif'/>

Jim McKenzie
03-07-2011, 06:54 PM
It appears the FIRST PE will be delivered to a member of the Seattle X1/9 Club ("Xweb")...see below from here: http://xwebforums.org/showthread.php?t=12151


#1 Today, 2:12 pm
toddr124
Hagerstown, MD Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hagerstown, MD

Guess who is getting his Prima 500 on Thu from Laura Soave?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I just received the following email from Chriswell Fiat. This is everything I know about the email. I hope to be there in the X1/9.

Todd,

Thank you for having me this Sunday.

It was great meeting with all of you again.

Quick update and please let the FIAT Car Club folks know this.

Corporate just came and talked to us here in Gaithersburg, and they told us that
Shaun Folkert's Prima Edizione will now be delivered on Thursday around noon.

Laura Soave, (Head of Fiat North America) will be flying in to deliver the first Prima Edizione
here in the U.S. to Mr. Folkerts. That's the stuff I couldn't quite tell you guys yesterday
as it wasn't finalized. But now I am allowed to tell you - they wanted us to wait until
they talked to Shaun himself.

So yes, Laura Soave will be here Thursd

sjmst
03-07-2011, 07:07 PM
<quote author="Jim McKenzie">
It appears the FIRST PE will be delivered to a member of the Seattle X1/9 Club ("Xweb")...see below from here: http://xwebforums.org/showthread.php?t=12151


#1 Today, 2:12 pm
toddr124
Hagerstown, MD Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hagerstown, MD

Guess who is getting his Prima 500 on Thu from Laura Soave?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I just received the following email from Chriswell Fiat. This is everything I know about the email. I hope to be there in the X1/9.

Todd,

Thank you for having me this Sunday.

It was great meeting with all of you again.

Quick update and please let the FIAT Car Club folks know this.

Corporate just came and talked to us here in Gaithersburg, and they told us that
Shaun Folkert's Prima Edizione will now be delivered on Thursday around noon.

Laura Soave, (Head of Fiat North America) will be flying in to deliver the first Prima Edizione
here in the U.S. to Mr. Folkerts. That's the stuff I couldn't quite tell you guys yesterday
as it wasn't finalized. But now I am allowed to tell you - they wanted us to wait until
they talked to Shaun himself.

So yes, L

Jeff
03-07-2011, 07:19 PM
Congratulations Shaun, very exciting!!!!

Thad
03-07-2011, 07:26 PM
Shaun is a member of Fiat Lancia Unlimited. It was at FLU's FIAT FreakOut that Shaun was able to select PE #11 back in July. The first car available to the public.

Mike S
03-07-2011, 08:12 PM
Shaun is the right person for the first one.

But, I must say this whole experience has been awful. We still have no communication and lots of ****ty dealers. They mostly suck and will likely not provide the studio experience Fiat wants. AND, It's Fiats fault. I got snookered into taking delivery here but I really wanted to give my business to Criswell because they were the first to come forward as enthusiasts.

I hope this gets better.

MrJones
03-07-2011, 08:22 PM
Drive to Criswell on Thurs. and tell Ms. Soave yourself! I would maybe refrain from phrases like "****ty dealers" and "I got snookered," but let her know how you feel.

Minuszka
03-07-2011, 08:30 PM
If we could just do that. It doesn't have to be Laura herself, but there is nobody to talk to. Fiat's call center ( Ciao Fiat ) is worthless. The supervisor there equally. No call returned, no issues addressed, no information provided. And there is nowhere else to turn to.
This forum is full of frustrated PE owners and I feel for them. Many are canceling after a four month waiting.

Chris
03-07-2011, 08:35 PM
I don't know, personally I think some cursing at/to someone at FIAT USA would be quite called-for. Also cathartic.

With that said, I really do think this will all be water under the bridge once we're driving around with perma-grin.

sjmst
03-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Right!

Mike S
03-07-2011, 08:59 PM
Criswell is over 1000 miles away and I would fly, not drive to bitch. There is not really enough time to do that.

I've got the same old, "same old" car dealer. Not what I want. I want the special experience Fiat said I would get.

I should have bought from Criswell. I would likely have me car home by Saturday.

I'm an idiot!!!

MrJones
03-07-2011, 09:13 PM
I hear ya. Sounds like Fiat didn't even meet the modest expectations of the Prima reservees. Sorry it hasn't gone the way you hoped.

Mike S
03-07-2011, 09:22 PM
At least we have a place to bitch.

sjmst
03-08-2011, 04:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn--ET5VLK4&feature=related

Carabinieri
03-08-2011, 04:49 PM
Just came on to post that delivery vid, Sam, which I saw when I played "Laura's." You beat me to it.

Pretty neat. Reminded me of a mare foaling! <smiley image='anim_claps.gif'/>

Bill

sjmst
03-08-2011, 05:18 PM
<quote author="Carabinieri">
Just came on to post that delivery vid, Sam, which I saw when I played "Laura's." You beat me to it.

Pretty neat. Reminded me of a mare foaling! <smiley image='anim_claps.gif'/>

Bill
</quote.>

Looked pretty good there, I thought.

Fiat500USA
03-09-2011, 12:24 AM
I plan on attending the Criswell delivery. Hope to see some of you there. This is a great time to be a Fiat enthusiast!

sjmst
03-09-2011, 08:12 AM
RED PRIMA.
From Fiat Canada on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150427666550405&set=o.128992467138458&theater
<nabble_img src="prima_red_2.bmp" border="0"/>

sjmst
03-09-2011, 10:48 AM
<quote author="Fiat500USA">
I plan on attending the Criswell delivery. Hope to see some of you there. This is a great time to be a Fiat enthusiast!
</quote>
Great, Chris. Enjoy...maybe you can get some info about when the rest of us will be getting our cars. I think once the first is delivered, the flood gates will be opened and we might see them next week.

sketch
03-09-2011, 11:02 AM
I must admit, the red looks a lot better out in the real world than I was expecting!

sjmst
03-09-2011, 11:14 AM
<quote author="sketch">
I must admit, the red looks a lot better out in the real world than I was expecting!
</quote>
Agreed

Gavin
03-09-2011, 11:24 AM
Yep...nice...

Now show us a grigio in the wild please :)

I really like the white...almost got it originally ...but, as my daughter reminded me yesterday, gray is my favorite color...sadly has been since I was a kid...maybe i'm boring, but I love how many shades and how versatile gray is...from deep silver to almost black, a crazy big range...

anywho...Never liked red cars, but that red Prima is very nice looking...but still would go gray then white then red...

Gavin

Minuszka
03-09-2011, 12:41 PM
I just got the call from the dealer that they have my car at their place. I'm going to drive to pick it up on Sunday.
Dealer's photo:
<nabble_img src="%2366.jpg" border="0"/>

Gavin
03-09-2011, 12:43 PM
Nice...

where and which color...

(i assume red from your photo :) )

Gavin

Minuszka
03-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Yes, red. - good guess Gavin!
In North Carolina. Going to be sunny and upper 60s on Sunday.

sjmst
03-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Great! Congrats!!!

PE#454
03-09-2011, 01:11 PM
Doubly agreed!

Nice find, Sam. <smiley image='smiley_good.gif'/>

MrJones
03-09-2011, 04:26 PM
Another red Prima with full array of photos:
http://www.dalewurfelchryslerdodgejeep.com/used/FIAT/2012-FIAT-500-9bde99c9404638bf010f3bd793d5fc63.htm

Also, it appears this car is<i> for sale</i> via the dealer? I guess there is nobody left on the Canadian wait list?
I'm super confused about the whole listing.

Giallo Edizione
03-09-2011, 04:30 PM
<quote author="MrJones">
Another red Prima with full array of photos:
http://www.dalewurfelchryslerdodgejeep.com/used/FIAT/2012-FIAT-500-9bde99c9404638bf010f3bd793d5fc63.htm

Also, it appears this car is<i> for sale</i> via the dealer? I guess there is nobody left on the Canadian wait list?
I'm super confused about the whole listing.
</quote>

Gouging, claiming leather interior. Nice dealer. Run away!

5*(10)^2
03-09-2011, 06:02 PM
They should really clean out the car of the water spots before taking pictures. <smiley image='smiley_what.gif'/>

Chris
03-09-2011, 06:05 PM
It looks like the car is actually for sale preowned as it has 300-some km's on it. This is probably legit, if overpriced.

sjmst
03-09-2011, 06:11 PM
<quote author="cinquecento">
It looks like the car is actually for sale preowned as it has 300-some km's on it. This is probably legit, if overpriced.
</quote>
Ironic. We in the USA didn't get one single car yet, and they are already available used in Canada.

fredfrey
03-10-2011, 10:28 AM
According to the facebook site for the PE

"FIAT Lancia Unlimited member Shaun Folkerts takes delivery of the first FIAT 500 Prima Edizione at Criswell FIAT of Gaithersburg this morning!" (That would be today March 10th 2011)

So, our cars are now going to be released?

<nabble_img src="Screen_shot_2011-03-10_at_9.28.13_AM.png" border="0"/>

sjmst
03-10-2011, 10:37 AM
Very nice!

I think we should see our cars starting today or tomorrow, with most delivered by late next week.
Just as guess.

fredfrey
03-10-2011, 11:06 AM
Time to start hounding our dealers! Who will be number 2?

sjmst
03-10-2011, 11:15 AM
<quote author="fredfrey">
Time to start hounding our dealers! Who will be number 2?
</quote>
So far, we've all been treated like number 2!





<smiley image='smiley_wink.gif'/>

Gavin
03-10-2011, 11:34 AM
ha...ouch...

well my fellow New Mexican, NMDUDE, drove 200 miles round trip to see our Primas sitting in the Rail Yard parking lot in Santa Rosa...

He did not have a high powered lens, nor could he sweet talk his way into the lot...so I am posting 2 "spy" shots he sent me...

<nabble_img src="File0012.jpg" border="0"/>

my Grigio...off in the distance and surrounded by cars...we Grigio owners are the ugly stepdaughters of the Prima world as nobody will show us great close ups yet...

<nabble_img src="File0013.jpg" border="0"/>

His Rossa...off by itself, always treated better than the grigio... :)

Gavin

see Fiat...people will drive 3 hours round trip to just see their cars through a fence....


ps...Thanks Jim for sending me the photos by snail mail...actually got to me very fast.

marcants1977
03-10-2011, 11:44 AM
- deleted -

Giallo Edizione
03-10-2011, 11:47 AM
<quote author="Guido">
Gee, I wonder where Laura is? Wasn't the big to do and the reason we had to wait so long for cars to get released was to deliver #1 Prima with Laura in attendance?
</quote>
She was at a job interview....

Mike S
03-10-2011, 12:12 PM
A couple of grey closeups here.
http://www.facebook.com/CriswellFiatOfGaithersburg

Mike S
03-10-2011, 12:13 PM
Wrong button, that was for Gavin.

sjmst
03-10-2011, 12:32 PM
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
<quote author="Guido">
Gee, I wonder where Laura is? Wasn't the big to do and the reason we had to wait so long for cars to get released was to deliver #1 Prima with Laura in attendance?
</quote>
She was at a job interview....
</quote>
lol!

She was actually there and looking good! See Criswell's Facebook page.
Very NICE!!!

Gavin, I posted a "paging Gavin" thread with a couple of Gray Primas for you.
They look great!

Gavin
03-10-2011, 01:03 PM
Thanks!!! Finally some grigio in the Wild...

:)

She is very pretty...the white is hella nice too...I love the contrast of White and Black...

Can't wait to see her in person.

Gavin

sam500
03-10-2011, 01:16 PM
love how subtle the stripe is on the grey. i think all three colors look great! now if we could actually get to them...

PE#454
03-10-2011, 02:00 PM
Aw, Gavin, your baby is beautimous! <smiley image='anim_jump.gif'/>

Giallo Edizione
03-10-2011, 03:34 PM
My dealer now has 3 cars on the lot for sale. But my Prima? Hoping it will arrive soon they say....

Question: How come those 3 cars weren't immediately snagged by drooling customers? Hmmm.

Jim McKenzie
03-10-2011, 04:28 PM
sorry to hear about the three before you. That's not right...

I would guess the three are not sold because no one knows they are there. Think the dealer has advertised at all?

Giallo Edizione
03-10-2011, 05:18 PM
<quote author="Jim McKenzie">
sorry to hear about the three before you. That's not right...

I would guess the three are not sold because no one knows they are there. Think the dealer has advertised at all?
</quote>
No advertising but they are the only open dealer in ALL of New England that I know of.

Jim McKenzie
03-10-2011, 05:32 PM
There is a Fiat dealership on Yarborough Road in Hyannis...Fiat of Cape Cod :)

Giallo Edizione
03-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Open, selling cars?

Found an article-its dated last November. I am aware of only 2 dealerships were ultimately awarded in Mass. though there were early references to two others, including this one. I cannot find any others in all the rest of New England.

Here is reporting accuracy form the article at its best:

"The Boston Herald reports that Chrysler, which purchased Fiat out of bankruptcy last year, has chosen four Massachusetts dealers to carry its new Fiat 500, and one is here on Cape Cod - Joe Laham's Fiat of Cape Cod."


Let's see if you can find the error. Jeez.

ciddyguy
03-10-2011, 11:43 PM
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
Open, selling cars?

Found an article-its dated last November. I am aware of only 2 dealerships were ultimately awarded in Mass. though there were early references to two others, including this one. I cannot find any others in all the rest of New England.

Here is reporting accuracy form the article at its best:

"The Boston Herald reports that Chrysler, which purchased Fiat out of bankruptcy last year, has chosen four Massachusetts dealers to carry its new Fiat 500, and one is here on Cape Cod - Joe Laham's Fiat of Cape Cod."


Let's see if you can find the error. Jeez.
</quote>
<i>that Chrysler, which purchased Fiat out of bankruptcy last year</i> It should be the other way around and that would be 2009 and Fiat doesn't OWN Chrysler, yet, they just have a stake and am working their way towards majority stake holder.

sam500
03-11-2011, 12:03 AM
Oh, I thought it was the whole Cape Cod being in Massachusetts bit :P

<quote author="ciddyguy">
<quote author="Sacred Bezel">
Open, selling cars?

Found an article-its dated last November. I am aware of only 2 dealerships were ultimately awarded in Mass. though there were early references to two others, including this one. I cannot find any others in all the rest of New England.

Here is reporting accuracy form the article at its best:

"The Boston Herald reports that Chrysler, which purchased Fiat out of bankruptcy last year, has chosen four Massachusetts dealers to carry its new Fiat 500, and one is here on Cape Cod - Joe Laham's Fiat of Cape Cod."


Let's see if you can find the error. Jeez.
</quote>
<i>that Chrysler, which purchased Fiat out of bankruptcy last year</i> It should be the other way around and that would be 2009 and Fiat doesn't OWN Chrysler, yet, they just have a stake and am working their way towards majority stake holder.
</quote>

sam500
03-11-2011, 12:25 AM
Here are some pictures "borrowed" from the facebook page of someone at Motor Village of LA. Thanks to Raul @ MV.

<nabble_img src="176777_198398206851963_100000453549493_657239_1232 184_o.jpg" border="0"/>
<nabble_img src="191819_198397503518700_100000453549493_657237_8228 168_o.jpg" border="0"/>
<nabble_img src="192920_198398233518627_100000453549493_657240_3681 210_o.jpg" border="0"/>

5*(10)^2
03-11-2011, 02:56 AM
oh boy! I think one of the Rossos is mine!

PE#454
03-11-2011, 07:57 AM
I think my ivory-billed woodpecker license plate will work nicely with my PE Rosso!

<nabble_img src="ivory-billed_woodpecker_plate.jpg" border="0"/>

sjmst
03-11-2011, 11:03 AM
<quote author="PE#454">
I think my ivory-billed woodpecker license plate will work nicely with my PE Rosso!

<img src="http://fiat-500-usa-forum.965414.n3.nabble.com/file/n2664432/ivory-billed_woodpecker_plate.jpg?by-user=t" border="0"/>
</quote>
I agree!

Gavin
03-11-2011, 06:49 PM
the sad thing for my poor Prima is she has been sitting exposed in the New Mexico sun for over a week now...

<nabble_img src="File0012.jpg" border="0"/>

At home she will be garage kept and garage parked at work too...so this is easily the most NM sun she will be sitting in for her whole life...

I want to sneak out to Santa Rosa and throw a cover over her...

Gavin

Jim McKenzie
03-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Gavin, you are a better man than I....


seeing it there for a week would aggravate me beyond end....


Kudos to you for hanging in there.

NM dude
03-12-2011, 12:50 AM
I agree with you Gavin. My car is sitting there with yours. I think about hail or another day of 50+ mph winds like we had a couple of weeks ago here.

Gavin
03-12-2011, 02:59 AM
I hope our babies find a save haven soon....Santa Rosa isn't where anybody wants their car parked for too long...very open...very sunny...very windy

Gavin