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Fiat500USA
01-31-2011, 12:44 PM
Post hear if you know of a Fiat dealer that is opened.

Thanks to all that suggested this! <smiley image='smiley_good.gif'/>

Jim McKenzie
01-31-2011, 02:32 PM
DAMN! You got me Chris, I thought when I saw this new category they'd be a list :)


But a great idea to start this topic, it WILL fill up soon !

sam500
01-31-2011, 02:52 PM
Motor Village of LA opened today!! http://www.motorvillagela.com/

Drove by this morning, and saw a couple of people roaming around. I'll be going in later today to take a look, and see if I can schedule a test drive :)

jvsgabriel
01-31-2011, 05:53 PM
If this is the case, I think a little trip up north to LA will be in the near future for me. I can also visit the guys at Fiat500 Madness too. Would love to go see what fun and new stuff they have on sale. Hope our cars come soon. How long does it take to make a car anyways?

Joel #366

sam500
01-31-2011, 08:12 PM
Just got back from motor village! No cars to test drive yet, but I talked to a very helpful sales rep who allowed me to play with a dozen or so 500 Sports (all soon to be shipped to a number of dealerships around the US). Took plenty of pictures that I will be uploading for all to see!

Wimbledon
01-31-2011, 08:25 PM
Great, can't wait to see the photos!

sjmst
01-31-2011, 08:38 PM
<quote author="Wimbledon">
Great, can't wait to see the photos!

</quote>
YES YES!

sam500
01-31-2011, 08:52 PM
Okay, most of the pictures didn't really turn out because my phone decided not to work properly. Next time I'll take a proper camera! Here are a few dash pictures of the grey and the red. Couldn't really find a white one that was open.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/samuelisaacs/sets/72157625824540851/

sjmst
01-31-2011, 09:35 PM
Looks nice! Was that red non-metallic?

sam500
01-31-2011, 09:57 PM
It was (all the pictures of the red are)! They actually had both shades on the floor, and I must say that they are both really nice. The regular rosso looks quite sporty, while the brillante is pretty sophisticated. I'd be happy driving either car.

Also, a couple of side notes:

-The Bose sound system is quite good, particularly since the car is so quiet inside.

-I very much like the mesh screen for the sunroof, since it keeps the car quite bright inside.

-The vinyl of the sport seats is really nice quality, and it feels so much like leather, that the sales rep was convinced that it was.

-All buttons and knobs feel quite sturdy.

- I actually had a chance to sit in the back for a little while, and I must say, at 6'1'', I could ride back there for a little while and not be horribly uncomfortable (though as we've all heard many times the back seats aren't exactly spacious).

sjmst
01-31-2011, 10:16 PM
Thanks, Sam!

Springer2011
01-31-2011, 11:17 PM
I do not want to be the squeaky wheel but this is what has happened to me concerning Motor Village of LA. I got on their website Saturday and filled out their internet sales info so they could contact me. Well, NO ONE CONTACTED ME.

I read on their website that they were having a grand opening today so I called the phone number on their website and asked to talk to Fiat sales. The Fiat personnel were at their new location and their was no phone number to contact them at their new location. Instead I got voice mail with no name and introduction.

Since I live in northern California and do not beleive dealers are as far along as this dealership locally I hope Fiat is serious in contacting people to sell their cars.

I know that they are busy opening up their new location but hopefully they get better at this. I thought Fiat would be able to improve Chrysler's business model but seems like it will take more time.

sam500
02-01-2011, 12:02 AM
Springer, Motor Village of LA is just in the process of finishing their move from their former location on La Brea to the new multi-story flagship store Downtown. Everything is still very much a work in progress (as you can see from their website), so I think their "Grand Opening" was an overly enthusiastic way of saying that their new location is now open. No big to do at all, just a few cars, and sales reps still waiting to get completely set up. As of now, they have not contacted anyone (I too filled out one of their forms) mostly because due to "licensing protocol" as one rep put it, they are not allowed to sell or even try to sell, or test drive any of the cars. I was told that they should begin to get FIAT inventory as early as next week, so you might expect to get a call or email then.

I know things are a bit messy right now, but you must keep in mind that the brand is just now launching, and FIAT is thinking about more than just one dealership. If it's any consolation, many of the cars that I saw are actually bound for dealerships around the area (maybe even Northern California), so I think you might be able to check out or even test drive one soon.

Fiat500USA
02-01-2011, 01:35 AM
Hi Springer,

Welcome to the forum!

All these test drive cars belong to Chrysler and are not for sale. They are called "pre-production marketing units " and there is a specific protocol with them (such as dealer prep and some other things). The Prima Edizione cars are the first production cars.

RacerRon
02-07-2011, 03:19 PM
My Local dealer, <a href="http://www.mackmassey.com/fiat.htm">Mack Massey Fiat</a> of El Paso, said that they should be receiving their demo model by next week. Their studio is not going to be ready until late summer, so they won't have any cars for sale until then. The person I talked to was very friendly and said I could take a test drive as soon as they receive their 500.

BTW, and I hope this hasn't been answered before, is every demo a Sport model?

Gavin
02-07-2011, 03:28 PM
Seems that so far Fiat is only making the Sport...at least for the Demos and for the PE. I'm sure they will be making Pops and Lounges, but they are going Sport so far...wonder how that will affect test rides...too many people can't ride a stick in the US.

Let us know when El Paso gets their demo...I've heard nothing from the Albuquerque dealer...I could drive down to El Paso for a test ride...only about 265 miles (vs 5 miles if Albuquerque gets it all together...)

Gavin

RacerRon
02-07-2011, 03:49 PM
Hey Gavin,

That's what I thought, Sport models only so far. As soon as I get the word that the El Paso dealer has their demo in I will post it here. The drive from Albuquerque to El Paso is not too bad, as long as the roads are in good condition. We are supposed to get more freezing weather again by Wednesday, Feb. 9.

sjmst
02-07-2011, 04:03 PM
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Gavin
02-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Opps, yes that is true (only the Lounge is limited to auto only)...but has anybody seen a Demo with an auto?

Gavin

Mike S
02-07-2011, 07:03 PM
There are none yet.

sketch
02-15-2011, 01:57 PM
Just called Ray Brandt Dodge in the New Orleans area, they have a demo car! He says the studio won't be open for another 90 days or so, but I'll be test driving it today or tomorrow!

Mike S
02-15-2011, 02:19 PM
My local dealer has had a demo for a couple of weeks but only his friends get to see it. I have called but don't get my calls returned. I'm going to buy my cars from another dealer.

sjmst
02-15-2011, 03:01 PM
<quote author="Mike S">
My local dealer has had a demo for a couple of weeks but only his friends get to see it. I have called but don't get my calls returned. I'm going to buy my cars from another dealer.
</quote>
Yes, it seems dealers will be dealers. I thought that Fiat picked the best of the best, then trained them in how to deal with customers. Then we hear stories like yours, and the Canadian dealer tacking on extra fees.
I called three dealers. Two were responsive and the thrird I had to chase after to speak to.

sketch
02-15-2011, 07:56 PM
Out of curiosity, Mike, are there many Chrysler dealers in your area? The one that's taking up Fiat sales in the New Orleans area is in an arguably less convenient location, but their reputation for customer service is notably better than that of the one that doesn't require you to cross the river to get there.

Mike S
02-15-2011, 08:24 PM
There are other Chrysler dealers but the only ones with a Fiat franchise are here (Ft Lauderdale), Miami and West Palm Beach (same owner as Ft Lauderdale).

Criswell is close too (just over 1000 miles away) and is my next best choice. At least that's closer than Chicago where I had to collect my new Volvo a few years ago because that was the closest place that had one. Let me explain - the last year for the V70R a hi-po wagon. There were 7 left in the country and not many were made.

MrJones
02-16-2011, 03:31 PM
Bergstrom Fiat of Milwaukee is open with cars coming in the next 3-7 days.

sketch
02-16-2011, 07:21 PM
I hope my dealer gets more cars in soon—they had to back the demo out of the showroom so I could test drive it today! :P

PE#454
02-24-2011, 09:15 PM
I was poking around on YouTube and discovered that Golling Fiat of Bloomfield Hills, MI (natch) is open. They have a couple of videos up. Here's one: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hchjUqMy0Kc&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hchjUqMy0Kc&feature=related</a>

If this demo car is the regular Rosso, I think I'm really going to like my car. Perhaps the overcast day affords a more true picture of the red (with more blue tint instead of yellow, yay!)

Watching the entire clip, it appears they are showing two different 500s: one Rosso and one Rame.

PE#454
02-24-2011, 09:18 PM
i found another video, under their Chrysler name...shows the first one off the truck. I guess this is where they got the pic that we found in our e-mail. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3qgUX4rf1E&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3qgUX4rf1E&feature=related</a>

(Apologies if this has been posted already; I haven't seen it.)

sam500
02-24-2011, 09:20 PM
Actually, last I heard, Golling only had the Rame. Something about their camera has made it look red before. I might be wrong, but I think they were the first to bring it up.

theoanderin
02-26-2011, 08:52 PM
Hello! My name is Erin Alexander from FIAT of Kirkland in Kirkland, WA. We are shooting to be open by April 1st. BUT we do have our DEMO and are taking orders for all that would like to order from me:) My email is ealexander@rairdon.com if you have any questions at all. I AM SO EXCITED TO GET OUR FIATS!!!!

Fiat500USA
02-27-2011, 12:09 AM
<quote author="theoanderin">
Hello! My name is Erin Alexander from FIAT of Kirkland in Kirkland, WA. We are shooting to be open by April 1st. BUT we do have our DEMO and are taking orders for all that would like to order from me:) My email is ealexander@rairdon.com if you have any questions at all. I AM SO EXCITED TO GET OUR FIATS!!!!
</quote>


Hi Erin,

Congratulations on your Demo and welcome to the forum! I really admire your enthusiasm, it's just what we need from our FIAT Design Consultants!

sketch
02-27-2011, 11:29 PM
Oh, it's worth noting that since I last spoke with my guy at Ray Brandt (or whatever they end up calling it), they had to put their demo under a cover in the showroom and can't give drives until they get their dealership license, so as to not advertise a car which they aren't yet allowed to sell. I was told something similar by Fiat of Shreveport earlier in the week as well.

theoanderin
02-28-2011, 06:00 PM
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Jim McKenzie
03-01-2011, 03:32 PM
Fiat of Clearwater, Florida (Dayton Andrews Chrysler-Jeep on Gulf to Bay) has emailed me the following on their marketing unit:

"Hi Jim

Actually it just came in this weekend. You can come over and ask for Steve in internet sales and he can help you.

Charlie Flatley"

I will heading there Saturday morning, likely in my X1/9 :)

<nabble_img src="MyX1-9.jpg" border="0"/>

Gavin
03-01-2011, 04:41 PM
<quote author="RacerRon">
My Local dealer, <a href="http://www.mackmassey.com/fiat.htm">Mack Massey Fiat</a> of El Paso, said that they should be receiving their demo model by next week. Their studio is not going to be ready until late summer, so they won't have any cars for sale until then. The person I talked to was very friendly and said I could take a test drive as soon as they receive their 500.

BTW, and I hope this hasn't been answered before, is every demo a Sport model?
</quote>


Fiat of El Paso now has their Demo unit.
A sport model.
Red.

Tempted to run down and take a test drive...but it is 260 miles each way (3 1/2 hours X 2 = long day of driving) and I am on call for the next forever (5 weeks....gah, will seem like forever) and can't go more than an hour from work.

Gavin

RacerRon
03-01-2011, 07:24 PM
Gavin,

I'm taking the 500 for a test drive in El Paso tomorrow. I'll give everyone by perspective and hopefully take some pics. Maybe they will let me test drive it all the way to Albuquerque. <smiley image='smiley_happy.gif'/>

Gavin
03-01-2011, 08:18 PM
Do that and I buy the beers :)

Of course you will have to drive it back to El Paso, so I get all the beers :)

Gavin

Have fun....me = jealous...say hi to Stacey.

RacerRon
03-01-2011, 08:52 PM
OK Gavin, I'll bring Stacey with me! <smiley image='anim_drunk.gif'/>

rabbitsINmilk
03-03-2011, 06:13 PM
Brown's Fiat of Patchogue Long Island, NY is open with a mostly finished studio and a black sport marketing demo that we are test driving the balls off of. I must say the car is ridiciously fun to drive. Also 10:00am this sunday March 6th 2011, we are having the local Alfa and Fiat club comming down with their classics and we will be test driving the car all day, not to mention free refreshments as well. If your in the area and the weather holds up come on down all are welcome. If it rains you can still come by but I doubt the classics will be around and that means the food will be out of the window as well lol. Email me if you need more information. j.gillen(at)gmail.com

--
Jason

Giallo Edizione
03-03-2011, 06:30 PM
This email just in from my local dealer in Peabody, MA just north of Boston:



Good Evening!

We have EXCITING NEWS!

Our FIAT Studio will be opening tomorrow! We do have a marketing vehicle available to view and are expecting inventory available early next week for test drive.

We will be taking orders off our incoming inventory and have over 50 FIAT 500's scheduled to arrive prior to the end of the month.

Please feel free to stop by and take a look at this great car. We are open from 9am until 6pm tomorrow and Saturday as well was from Noon until 5pm on Sunday.

We look forward to seeing you soon.


Very best,
Patrick


Patrick Afthim
Sales Manager
Kelly FIAT
978-774-2600
patrick@kellyauto.com

Jim McKenzie
03-03-2011, 08:48 PM
Holy Crap! Wonderful news (except for PE owners of course). I know Peabody well, having grown up (?) in Braintree (Graduated from Thayer Academy) , Canton, Marshfield and Falmouth.

Good for you, have fun!

Fiat500USA
03-04-2011, 01:18 AM
<quote author="rabbitsINmilk">
Brown's Fiat of Patchogue Long Island, NY is open with a mostly finished studio and a black sport marketing demo that we are test driving the balls off of. I must say the car is ridiciously fun to drive. Also 10:00am this sunday March 6th 2011, we are having the local Alfa and Fiat club comming down with their classics and we will be test driving the car all day, not to mention free refreshments as well. If your in the area and the weather holds up come on down all are welcome. If it rains you can still come by but I doubt the classics will be around and that means the food will be out of the window as well lol. Email me if you need more information. j.gillen(at)gmail.com

--
Jason
</quote>

Hi Jason, welcome to the Forum! Sounds like an awesome time. Good luck to you and everyone at Browns!

littlejohn
03-04-2011, 11:21 PM
Hello, been reading this board for weeks, figured I'd join in. I like reading all the comments, good stuff.

I work down the road from Criswell Fiat, Gaithersburg, MD. They of course have had demo for a while now. Today I received an email telling me others cars are on the way, most spoken for, but asking me if I knew anyone else with my passion for the 500?, etc. I was PM 299, but got my deposit back...unsure of continued employment, new car payment, etc...I hated to cancel, but am enjoying seeing the Pics posted here, and conversation...

I'm sure with my dealer being up and running I probably would have had my PM by now or any day, that's the worst part of it. It's been a month or so since they called to start the process for delivery, had to tell them no go.

I guess the plan was the PMs would come in before the other inventory?, but that's not happening, as others have pointed out, and I feel for those of you so far from dealers...and there are just so few dealers open? BTW, about dealers, there was another dealer near my home, that signed on, was listed as being chosen...the word on the street is that when they worked the numbers, there was just not enough profit in i

Fiat500USA
03-04-2011, 11:51 PM
Hi littlejohn,

Welcome to the forum! Sorry you had to cancel your order. There are pros and cons with the PE. The good news is when you get your 500/Abarth, you'll be able to order it exactly the way you want it.

In the meantime, stick around and hang out with us!

-Chris

littlejohn
03-05-2011, 09:31 AM
Thanks Chris, the MD/DC area, with so many future dealers, I'm lucky, I'll be seeing all the different styles/colors tooling around town...taking my wife by Criswell today to take a peek at the demo, if it isn't out on a test drive.

I'm hoping the dealers don't try to pop a $5K premium, or something, on the Abarths when they arrive...that would be a bummer.

On the PE:

I had no problem with the way the Prima was rolled out. Fiat and dealer made contact with me on all fronts, maybe more so than others PEers, because I had a dealer that was almost opened.

The one thing I do wish Fiat had done, if they could have made the planets align for this addition, and would have made the car "really" special, would have been to drop in the 135hp engine, along with the other standard PE items.

I wish they would option that, or make it standard on the Sport in the future?
Don't need any other changes to the Sport, keep the 16" wheels, all the rest, love it.

I like Laura from the interviews I've seen. Launching a new venture such as this one is no easy task to say the least.
From the recent PM photos posted, I like the way the vehicle turned out. I'm sure those who get their will love

sjmst
03-05-2011, 09:41 AM
<quote author="rabbitsINmilk">
Brown's Fiat of Patchogue Long Island, NY is open with a mostly finished studio and a black sport marketing demo that we are test driving the balls off of. I must say the car is ridiciously fun to drive. Also 10:00am this sunday March 6th 2011, we are having the local Alfa and Fiat club comming down with their classics and we will be test driving the car all day, not to mention free refreshments as well. If your in the area and the weather holds up come on down all are welcome. If it rains you can still come by but I doubt the classics will be around and that means the food will be out of the window as well lol. Email me if you need more information. j.gillen(at)gmail.com

--

</quote>
My son just test drove that car yesterday, Great dealer. My son's car is a 95 BMW 5 series 5 speed, so that's his point of reference:

"The pics aren't great I was a tad too excited about the car itself....it just makes you happy being around it. It's cute but sporty & can perform but is a laugh too...I got in my car after driving the FIAT and its amazing how different it is...my clutch felt like it was made of granite. The suspension was made of solid steel and it wa

ciddyguy
03-05-2011, 10:59 AM
<quote author="sjmst">
<quote author="rabbitsINmilk">
Brown's Fiat of Patchogue Long Island, NY is open with a mostly finished studio and a black sport marketing demo that we are test driving the balls off of. I must say the car is ridiciously fun to drive. Also 10:00am this sunday March 6th 2011, we are having the local Alfa and Fiat club comming down with their classics and we will be test driving the car all day, not to mention free refreshments as well. If your in the area and the weather holds up come on down all are welcome. If it rains you can still come by but I doubt the classics will be around and that means the food will be out of the window as well lol. Email me if you need more information. j.gillen(at)gmail.com

--

</quote>
My son just test drove that car yesterday, Great dealer. My son's car is a 95 BMW 5 series 5 speed, so that's his point of reference:

"The pics aren't great I was a tad too excited about the car itself....it just makes you happy being around it. It's cute but sporty & can perform but is a laugh too...I got in my car after driving the FIAT and its amazing how different it is...my clutch felt like it was made of granite. The suspension was made o

AgentP
03-05-2011, 10:19 PM
I went to the Downtown LA Village dealership today. There were about 5 or 6 on the 3rd floor and they are all Sport versions in the color Silver metallic (one was a grey) - very boring. There was one salesman (Mitch) there (that I saw) and he told me that they are accepting orders for anyone who wants to build their own car right now ($500 deposit and 45-60 days to deliver). While I was there, I met a guy, about 6'3," (not a member of this forum) who is one of the first 500 PE orders and he is waiting for the delivery of his car. He sat in one of cars with sun roof (they all had sunroofs) and adjusted the seat a bit. He said although he would like a bit more headroom, he seemed to think it was acceptable. The demonstrator is not available this weekend (it is in the shop getting some decals or something) but will be back on Monday. The salesman said I would not require an appointment to test drive on Monday. He said they will not mark the price up above the MSRP at this dealership. He didn't seem to know what the financing terms were to be, but thought you could get somewhere between 2.99% and 4% if you had excellent credit. The 6'3" guy says he has excellent credit and was

sketch
03-05-2011, 11:24 PM
The service personnel had to go through a training process. The one and only thing my dealer is certain of is that he is fully able to service the car.

Giallo Edizione
03-05-2011, 11:57 PM
Any modern competently trained mechanic can repair any car. Provided they have the software that can diagnose the car and parts to replace the failed part. The latter is going to be the problem I see if these 500's break in the wrong way during the next few months.

Reminds me of my first new FIAT in 1974. It spent more time in the shop than in my driveway-mostly waiting for common parts from Italy. That is, after they ran out of spares they would "borrow" from other peoples cars and unsold new cars. Assuming I didn't get a "wall job." And the dealers did not have modern or competent or trained mechanics.

If this worries you, run. Run fast and don't look back.

For me this is a toy, not a primary vehicle. At least not initially. So I am not too worried. Besided, MA has a lemon law and if they can't fix it within a certain period of time, FIAT has to replace the car.

I saw your other question about the bezel. Upon the Great Enlightenment, we came to find that they are body color except for the Prima Edizione model, which is liquid graphite.

AgentP
03-06-2011, 12:04 AM
Thanks for posting back about the bezel! Yaaaay!!!! However, the ones that were in the studio - they all had this grey/graphite dash and those aren't PEs.... i'm not that detail oriented - should have shot pics today - when I go back on Monday I am going to shoot some pics of the dashes - all they had was grey/silver grey color cars and it could very well be that the dash was grey - but for some reason I'm thinking what I saw was graphite on those models - the interiors where two-tone only (no white) of black - black headliner and black insets on the upholstery. I planned to order the Pop version either with the black on black seats or with the white/black seats.

CaliberSRT4
03-06-2011, 12:16 AM
<quote author="AgentP">
I went to the Downtown LA Village dealership today. There were about 5 or 6 on the 3rd floor and they are all Sport versions in the color Silver metallic (one was a grey) - very boring. There was one salesman (Mitch) there (that I saw) and he told me that they are accepting orders for anyone who wants to build their own car right now ($500 deposit and 45-60 days to deliver). While I was there, I met a guy, about 6'3," (not a member of this forum) who is one of the first 500 PE orders and he is waiting for the delivery of his car. He sat in one of cars with sun roof (they all had sunroofs) and adjusted the seat a bit. He said although he would like a bit more headroom, he seemed to think it was acceptable. The demonstrator is not available this weekend (it is in the shop getting some decals or something) but will be back on Monday. The salesman said I would not require an appointment to test drive on Monday. He said they will not mark the price up above the MSRP at this dealership. He didn't seem to know what the financing terms were to be, but thought you could get somewhere between 2.99% and 4% if you had excellent credit. The 6'3" guy says he has

ciddyguy
03-06-2011, 12:17 AM
<quote author="AgentP">
I went to the Downtown LA Village dealership today. There were about 5 or 6 on the 3rd floor and they are all Sport versions in the color Silver metallic (one was a grey) - very boring. There was one salesman (Mitch) there (that I saw) and he told me that they are accepting orders for anyone who wants to build their own car right now ($500 deposit and 45-60 days to deliver). While I was there, I met a guy, about 6'3," (not a member of this forum) who is one of the first 500 PE orders and he is waiting for the delivery of his car. He sat in one of cars with sun roof (they all had sunroofs) and adjusted the seat a bit. He said although he would like a bit more headroom, he seemed to think it was acceptable. The demonstrator is not available this weekend (it is in the shop getting some decals or something) but will be back on Monday. The salesman said I would not require an appointment to test drive on Monday. He said they will not mark the price up above the MSRP at this dealership. He didn't seem to know what the financing terms were to be, but thought you could get somewhere between 2.99% and 4% if you had excellent credit. The 6'3" guy says he has

Fiat500USA
03-06-2011, 02:06 AM
Hi AgentP, welcome to the forum!

Thanks for your report. Service training took place before sales training, and is a big priority with Fiat (if it wasn't, they would have just shipped the cars to any Chrysler dealer to deliver).

Each dealer has to make a huge $$$$ initial monthly parts order. I won't say the exact amount, but roughly, you could buy a couple of 500s for that amount.

That doesn't include the other huge $$$$ amount for service tools.

Everyone is committed to making it a success. The car is also relatively simple, so I'm optimistic.

RacerRon
03-06-2011, 02:45 AM
My local Fiat manager said that a group of their mechanics went to Tennessee for extensive service training on the Fiat 500.

sjmst
03-06-2011, 12:22 PM
I am buying the car as my daily driver. I have a 100 mile round trip commute from Long Island to NJ every day.
I drive through Brooklyn, the Bronx and Queens. I will drive in sunshine, rain, snow and sleet, in 100 degree and 18 degree weather. I have no doubts this car will serve me well. When it needs service and repair, I have no doubt the parts and know how to fix it will be available.

I drive the hell out of my cars, but I also take very good care of them. After 80,000 miles, the car will still look pretty much like new.

Giallo Edizione
03-06-2011, 01:06 PM
<quote author="Gavin">
Seems that so far Fiat is only making the Sport...at least for the Demos and for the PE. I'm sure they will be making Pops and Lounges, but they are going Sport so far...wonder how that will affect test rides...too many people can't ride a stick in the US.

Let us know when El Paso gets their demo...I've heard nothing from the Albuquerque dealer...I could drive down to El Paso for a test ride...only about 265 miles (vs 5 miles if Albuquerque gets it all together...)

Gavin
</quote>
My dealer in Boston area said they are expecting a couple of Pops in this month's distribution along with a couple of Sport automatics. Nothing on Lounge.

ciddyguy
03-06-2011, 01:11 PM
<quote author="sjmst">
I am buying the car as my daily driver. I have a 100 mile round trip commute from Long Island to NJ every day.
I drive through Brooklyn, the Bronx and Queens. I will drive in sunshine, rain, snow and sleet, in 100 degree and 18 degree weather. I have no doubts this car will serve me well. When it needs service and repair, I have no doubt the parts and know how to fix it will be available.

I drive the hell out of my cars, but I also take very good care of them. After 80,000 miles, the car will still look pretty much like new.
</quote>

Yep, same here, but not in NY though, out in Seattle and its environs instead but yes, my only set of wheels as I'm replacing a 19 YO Ford Ranger with lots and lots of miles on it for something smaller, more sippy in gas etc (although the truck's mileage is good for a small truck so I can't complain there but at 232K on it, yeah, it's getting a tad long in the tooth).

Therefore I have no qualms about the car's potential longevity and all that and I think it'll be fairly to very reliable too, as most cars are these days.

5*(10)^2
03-07-2011, 12:36 AM
<quote author="AgentP">
I went to the Downtown LA Village dealership today. There were about 5 or 6 on the 3rd floor and they are all Sport versions in the color Silver metallic (one was a grey) - very boring. There was one salesman (Mitch)...
</quote>

AgentP,

We met Mitch as well. But we feel that Mitch wasn't really into selling cars. He's quite dazed, lackluster towards the Fiat 500. He took us to the second floor to view the demo cars. And he left with my wife through the elevator. That's right. He shut the elevator door before I could walk in. That was quite rude no?

Worst part is the test drive. There was nothing to talk about. It's as if he's not into selling a car or any car. At the end of the drive, he actually asked me "How much is the Fiat Prima Edizione?"

I am actually very surprised he's one of the Fiat reps. Until, we met Michael Passage who's more energetic.

I am still mixed about getting my delivered at Motor Village LA.

MrJones
03-07-2011, 11:31 AM
Found this perspective from a dealer's point of view (not necessarily Chrysler):
http://www.dealershipforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23405

CaliberSRT4
03-07-2011, 12:51 PM
<quote author="MrJones">
Found this perspective from a dealer's point of view (not necessarily Chrysler):
http://www.dealershipforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23405
</quote>
According to Soave they have done some market research and the people interested in Fiats want a different purchasing experience than the regular Chrysler dealer. With their current strategy, they are attracting new customers into the dealership (ones that wouldn't otherwise go to a chrysler/dodge/jeep dealership) and also focusing on areas where Fiat 500's will sell in higher volume. I think it's the right approach, rather than simply putting a Fiat 500 in every Chrysler showroom with no specialized salespeople.

sjmst
03-07-2011, 12:54 PM
<quote author="CaliberSRT4">
<quote author="MrJones">
Found this perspective from a dealer's point of view (not necessarily Chrysler):
http://www.dealershipforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23405
</quote>
According to Soave they have done some market research and the people interested in Fiats want a different purchasing experience than the regular Chrysler dealer. ..
</quote>

Wow, who wouldn't want the classic Chrysler dealer approach!?!



<smiley image='smiley_wink.gif'/>

Giallo Edizione
03-07-2011, 02:40 PM
<quote author="CaliberSRT4">
<quote author="MrJones">
Found this perspective from a dealer's point of view (not necessarily Chrysler):
http://www.dealershipforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23405
</quote>
I think it's the right approach, rather than simply putting a Fiat 500 in every Chrysler showroom with no specialized salespeople.
</quote>

So the sales manager at my dealer was a salesman from the owner group's Lexus dealership down the street. He drives a MINI. I asked him if he's thinking of trading the MINI for a FIAT 500. He told me not a chance.....

Specialized.

KellyFIAT
03-09-2011, 07:10 PM
Kelly FIAT is open in Danvers, MA!

You can visit us online at www.kellyfiat.com or call us at 1-800-NEW-FIAT from anywhere in New England. I have included our hours below.


Monday - Thursday
9am - 8pm

Friday and Saturday
9am -6pm

Sunday
11:30am - 5:00pm


See you soon!!

FiatDude
03-09-2011, 08:34 PM
I just got off the phone with Patrick from Kelly. He was very helpful and informative. The PEs should be in within the next couple of days.

I stopped in last Saturday and they seemed to have a nice place with helpful Salespeople. I can't wait to get my car. I've waited 27 years to buy a new Fiat. I have an '83 Spider that wants company in the garage...

einy
03-09-2011, 09:20 PM
For any Cincinnati area forum members, King's Fiat is moving into the old Mitsubishi dealership building in the King's Automall. They have a Rame Sport 5 speed available now for demo drives, as well as a Rosso Sport 5 speed that is currently undergoing minor repairs following incidental damage at the recent Cincinnati auto show (where it was, at the last minute mind you, on display!) The dealership is currently open, but I was told the building will be limited access soon, as they are starting the remodeling work to build it out in the studio motif. Sales staff is two people at the moment, and they seem to have pretty good product knowledge compared to most auto dealers. When it stops raining here, I'll be in for a drive of one of the demo models, for sure!

ciddyguy
03-09-2011, 11:05 PM
As I mentioned in my review of the 500, the Fiat of Kirkland dealership appears to be in business, unofficially I would say and are temporarily working out of their parent Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge dealership as their new studio gets built in an already existing building they own across the street. It'll be open by May the last I heard.

And Fiat of Tacoma has their Russo demo and I think they are probably also working out of their Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge dealership, the former Tacoma Dodge only dealer and just north of them on South Tacoma Way in Tacoma way in the former Evergreen Tire Center will be the new Fiat of Tacoma studio, they are in the process of remodeling the space now. I think they are taking test drives but at the moment, weekends aren't the best times, according to their Facebook page. I believe they'll have their studio up by early spring.

Have not looked in recent days but the Autonation dealership on Aurora Ave here in Seattle still had no website presence or anything indicating that a Fiat dealership is in the works so who knows on that one although it WAS mentioned on the dealer list via the Ciao Fiat website.

sam500
03-10-2011, 12:55 AM
Actually had a couple of really weird interactions with Motor Village people over the phone today. Just called to confirm ETA for the Prima (seems like Friday?), and started getting this somewhat improvised talk on how I should think about which kind of 500 I'm looking for, in case I don't end up getting a PE... I don't really know. Kinda difficult to figure out what he was trying to say. I'm guessing he just didn't really have a clue about the Prima Edizione, or what the reservations are about. For some strange reason his go-to response was to rant about something he really didn't understand.

To be fair, I've had mostly positive exchanges with people there that DO know what they're talking about. Francisco is my guy, but Edwin, and Michael have been pretty great. This is also one of the most closely monitored dealerships by FIAT (since it's "owned" by them) so I feel fairly safe getting my PE here. I guess it's all about knowing who to talk to.

5*(10)^2
03-10-2011, 04:12 AM
sam,

I have a feeling you spoke to Mitch on the phone. When you called did you ask to speak to a Fiat rep? Cos somehow he's the default bloke.

Like I mentioned, Mitch didn't know what is going on. Then I spoke to Edwin a couple of times on the phone and he was a bit confused. Eventually, I sent an email to clarify the matter such that if there are no news of my PE, I will have it delivered to another dealership. That's when things started to pick up.

Joel is the general manager and he actually sent me an email yesterday to let me know the car is arriving. He wanted to assign a Fiat specialist to me. I am already working with Michael. So that's all good. Michael reckons the car should arrive Friday or latest Monday.

There are some other things about MVLA that I'd rather talk offline.

sam500
03-10-2011, 04:28 AM
I actually had a chance to talk to Joel briefly a few days back. He seems like a nice guy; took my information and said that he would give me a call. Just wish that the people that pick up the phone knew to direct those interested in the 500 (esp. the PE) to FIAT specialists, and not to someone who might be giving out misleading information.

This is actually a concern that one of the senior people at FIAT shared with me re:MVLA.

Also, about the last bit:

<quote author="5*(10)^2">

There are some other things about MVLA that I'd rather talk offline.
</quote>

I totally understand!

sam500
03-10-2011, 11:32 PM
Okay, some more info. I got into one of the most heated arguments I've had re: the delivery process of the PE, with the same sales rep from yesterday at MVLA. He told me that he was frustrated with so many people calling to ask about the car, and I pretty much bit his head off. You know, because we love having to wait until the last minute to find out about when we'll be able to get our cars. Eventually, he told me that they do have the Prima Edizione cars at Motor Village (confirmed by Michael via Facebook), and that they'll be prepping them (whatever this means), servicing them? (just repeating what he said), contacting owners (finally), and getting ready to release them sometime next week (unofficially wednesday).

There will be some sort of "event" for reservation holders, which would be a nice gesture if we had known about it/knew to wait for it. It's understandable that considering the volume of cars that they're handling, and the plans they had for delivery, that it would take a little longer than say, those dealers handling only one or two cars. However, they have to own up to the fact that it's their responsibility to stay in touch with their customers, and not the other

5*(10)^2
03-11-2011, 03:06 AM
Sam, Thanks for the update. Saw the pictures that Raul posted as well.

I am curious...who is this sales rep? Is it really Mitch? I can't believe he mentioned he was "frustrated".

sam500
03-11-2011, 04:23 AM
No, wasn't Mitch. Just didn't catch his name, I was to busy listening to him complain about how hard his job was.

Giallo Edizione
03-11-2011, 12:10 PM
<quote author="#210">
I just got off the phone with Patrick from Kelly. He was very helpful and informative. The PEs should be in within the next couple of days.

I stopped in last Saturday and they seemed to have a nice place with helpful Salespeople. I can't wait to get my car. I've waited 27 years to buy a new Fiat. I have an '83 Spider that wants company in the garage...
</quote>
I'll second that. So far they have been very open and communicative. I'm going to take a field trip up there today to see how I fit into a non-sunroof model. I may have to abandon my PE because of the sunroof clearance.

I don't blame the dealers or salespeople for not know what is going on or being able to trace cars etc. This all falls squarely at the feet of the marketing folks at FIAT, and ultimately Laura Soave. It's a bungled roll-out by her team from the beginning. If I were Marchionne, I'd clean house quickly and do what I needed to get folks in place who know what they are doing before FIAT USA becomes a Merkur or any of the other myriad of failed new automotive marques.

In addition to the sunroof problem, I am having serious reservations about buying a 500 at all, not because I think

AgentP
03-12-2011, 11:12 PM
I can't seem to do the quote thing for the time being - but I ddidn't realize you guys were posting over here about the MVLA. I didn't want to say anything negative about Mitch. When I was there Friday to get a test drive, I looked for him as he was the one who gave me the brochure when I went there the first time. He does seem to not know as much as the bunch of us on this forum about the PE etc. He'd told me for example that the test drive car was out getting banners put on it, but apparently it was actually at some Italian event (wished I would have known) that weekend. Anyway, he said he'd been selling cars for over 30 years (he does look pretty old-school) and I liked the feeling that I was not being pressured. On the other hand, you could say he was somewhat disinterested, but I understand that they are not trying to be hardcore sales people like other dealerships. When I showed up for the test drive, he handed me off to Michael who was very enthusiastic and told me about how him mom drives the car in Europe and showed me the differences between the Pop and the Sport and then showed me Jay Leno's car. Very nice man but he seemed to suggest that when I go to order that

FiatDude
03-12-2011, 11:45 PM
Hi Finale Edizione,

Mine is grigio with the sunroof. I was actually thinking about seeing if someone that ordered a grigio without the roof wanted to switch. I drove one with the roof and sat in one without the roof and think I prefer one without the sunroof.

It isn't a deal-breaker but I wish the shade wasn't a solid rather than a mesh material. The extra headroom without the sunroof is nice too.

Either way, it seems like a very nice car. Roomier inside than it appears from the outside. It was able to get up to highway speed quickly and held the road well even on a very windy day. I was impressed.

The folks at Kelly continue to be very helpful. I don't think the delay with the PEs is their fault. I am convinced that they should be in next week. The cars were in a lot in central Massachusetts.

Good luck with your decision.

MrJones
03-15-2011, 08:51 AM
<quote author="Finale Edizione">
Meanwhile, if you (PE 210) happen to be getting a non-roof Rosso PE from Kelly and want to upgrade to a roof model, give me a holler by PM or tell the dealer.
</quote>

I am definitely passing on my rosso Prima (no sunroof)--I wonder if I can have them ship it to your dealer and then you can swap out. Want me to try?

Giallo Edizione
03-15-2011, 10:22 AM
<quote author="MrJones">
<quote author="Finale Edizione">
Meanwhile, if you (PE 210) happen to be getting a non-roof Rosso PE from Kelly and want to upgrade to a roof model, give me a holler by PM or tell the dealer.
</quote>

I am definitely passing on my rosso Prima (no sunroof)--I wonder if I can have them ship it to your dealer and then you can swap out. Want me to try?
</quote>
Yes, ask! What the heck. However, I have been told two things about that by my dealer. First guy said if a PE is cancelled, FIAT will locate the next person on the waiting list in the delivery area and offer it to them. Another guy said, no, if a PE is refused, then the dealer is free to sell it to whoever. My sense is one of these two is true and FIAT would be unwilling to pay the transport cost for little old me to lose a sunroof.

In the meantime, I am eying an incoming Rosso Brilliante Sport 5 speed with convenience and sound/safety packages, for $19,100 delivered, ( plus the ususal nasty fees). But I am also drifting towards custom ordering a Rame Lounge with Marone/white luxury leather interior ( and heated seats!) and stir the manumatic.

Here's some interesting factoids: Of the 56 500's ( non PE

MrJones
03-15-2011, 11:21 AM
<quote author="Finale Edizione">
Yes, ask! What the heck. However, I have been told two things about that by my dealer. First guy said if a PE is cancelled, FIAT will locate the next person on the waiting list in the delivery area and offer it to them. Another guy said, no, if a PE is refused, then the dealer is free to sell it to whoever. My sense is one of these two is true and FIAT would be unwilling to pay the transport cost for little old me to lose a sunroof.

In the meantime, I am eying an incoming Rosso Brilliante Sport 5 speed with convenience and sound/safety packages, for $19,100 delivered, ( plus the ususal nasty fees). But I am also drifting towards custom ordering a Rame Lounge with Marone/white luxury leather interior ( and heated seats!) and stir the manumatic.

Here's some interesting factoids: Of the 56 500's ( non PE) on distribution to my dealer (selected by FIAT), only 11 are manuals. All of the Pops are automatics (as are the Lounges of course). Only 12 cars have sunroofs. Exactly one, yes one, Rosso Sport 5 speed (it has roof). Yet, they have already sold out all of their 5 speeds with sunroofs on pre-orders. Also, none of the auto-Pop's are priced less than

Giallo Edizione
03-15-2011, 01:51 PM
Sent you an email with the particulars.

MrJones
03-17-2011, 11:16 AM
Just a follow up to this-- it wouldn't have made any difference if I were able to have my Prima shipped over to you--I found out that Fiat screwed up my order (hard to believe, right?) and built me one with the sunroof! What a bunch of....

Giallo Edizione
03-17-2011, 02:01 PM
<quote author="MrJones">
Just a follow up to this-- it wouldn't have made any difference if I were able to have my Prima shipped over to you--I found out that Fiat screwed up my order (hard to believe, right?) and built me one with the sunroof! What a bunch of....
</quote>
What a mess.

Well my dealer called me and said they got delivery on a non-roof Rosso PE and the customer was wavering. They thought they'd know by this weekend and if he walks, it's mine if I want it. Meanwhile I'm also qustioning the value of a PE and a big piece of me wants to wait to see other colors as well as check out the Lounge but maybe just order a base Sport with a spare tire as the only option to save $1,400 upfront and minimize depreciation. I'm under no illusion that the PE will hold value any more than any other 500. I can live without automatic climate control and an alarm ( I can sit in my SRT8 if I want that) which is pretty much all the extra content in the PE other than decorations by my reckoning. Need to see the cars.
\
Now if I could just get away from work for an hour to go see the car....

jvsgabriel
03-18-2011, 10:38 AM
Hi all, well finally got the "semi" official call from my dealer. I say "semi" official as they are not quite sure if the DMV here in CA will give them their license just yet. Since my dealer, Chris Baker Fiat, will be the only up and running dealer in the San Diego area, seems that they will get it soon.

I was told that they might have the license ready by 2pm today. But we shall see if that holds true. But either way I will get a call around 2pm today, just so I know what is going on with the whole process. Didn't know that it was so difficult to get such license...but then CA's DMV is still on work furlough. Perhaps they can't spare the people to do it.

Oh well I would love to get in a buy the car today, but it is looking like tomorrow will be a better day. But we shall see, either way I will have some pictures.

Joel #366

littlejohn
04-08-2011, 09:47 AM
Boy, just thinking, given that the plant is probably running full steam, they are going to have to find places to ship/store all these cars? Or, maybe the positive there is they could slow production and knock out some of the bugs being reported to better ready for the full blown summer launch?

BTW, Really nice video on Facebook of Criswell of Gaithersburg of a Mocha Lounge with a nice tan interior and inside facia, you have to scroll down a ways...I guess the Lounge seats are a little nicee than the Pop?

I wonder if the seat upgrade is a available in the POP? Neat Stuff...

PE#454
04-08-2011, 07:41 PM
<quote author="littlejohn">
BTW, Really nice video on Facebook of Criswell of Gaithersburg of a Mocha Lounge with a nice tan interior and inside facia, you have to scroll down a ways...I guess the Lounge seats are a little nicee than the Pop?

I wonder if the seat upgrade is a available in the POP? Neat Stuff...
</quote>
I didn't see a video, but I did find <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=697192516#!/photo.php?fbid=138925022843973&set=a.134471466622662.24596.114747408595068&theater">these photos</a> (starting here); is this the one you mean?

<i>Very nice</i> color and interior (just 'bleh' on the automatic).

<a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=138925022843973&set=a.134471466622662.24596.114747408595068&theater#!/photo.php?fbid=138929036176905&set=a.134471466622662.24596.114747408595068&theater&pid=224753&id=114747408595068">Here's </a> a Pop. I like these seats as well, but it seems the cloth seats in the Lounge are aesthetically more pleasing...aesthetics being subjective, of course. And it's manual! <smiley image='smiley_good.gif'/>

littlejohn
04-08-2011, 08:16 PM
Yes, 120039 etc thanks for the reply..there is a video, just checked still there...

You know, those seats on the Pop don't look too bad, i like the two tone at least, same facia/bezel too, and I agree with you on the manual/stick thing...would be the way to go on these, been a while since I drove a stick for sure. Auto would, to me would take all the fun out of pushing the revs, etc...

very good

navy48
04-13-2011, 08:10 PM
back on topic.....OPENED FIAT DEALERS: O'Brien FIAT in Greenwood Indiana. they opened March 1st and are the FIRST FIAT Studio to open in Indiana.

they're located in the Greenwood Park Mall, near the entrance to Johnny Rockets. their hours are 10am to 9pm, Monday thru Saturday. due to Indiana 'blue' laws, dealerships are not allowed to be open on Sundays, BUT one can check out the 500s as you stroll through the mall.

littlejohn
04-13-2011, 11:42 PM
Drove through Criswell Fiat of Gaithersburg today....they have like 54 cars in stock, holly cow. DC/MD/VA go check these cars out.

kayandjohn
01-03-2013, 01:07 AM
Suburban Fiat just received 36 cars and opened this week in Ann Arbor, MI. YAYYYY!!

markinmad
01-03-2013, 11:54 AM
The My Fiat iOS app says that there's a studio in Madison. "FIAT of Madison" - 5802 Odana Rd. I don't think it's there yet because I can't find any other information about it, but it looks like the My Fiat app may have the first info on new dealer openings.

luckymoi
01-03-2013, 12:52 PM
Don Miller dodge Chrysler jeep according to Google maps... Good location though.

I just called them...talked to Rob
They have 20 in stock, one red abarth.
There will be a standalone studio across the street , on Tokay, opening subject to the end of winter.
He suggested June/July opening for that.
I wished them great success.
Hope you will love your cinquecento!

markinmad
01-03-2013, 03:15 PM
Yep, stopped over at lunch and talked to Mitch. They opened about a week ago and are currently in the Don Miller body shop space around the corner from the main dealership. They have a temporary sign hanging on a van parked out by the street. ;-)

They sound very enthusiastic and I congratulated them on their opening.

Yay, I don't have to drive to Milwaukee or order oil filters online anymore!