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sjmst
11-22-2010, 11:49 AM
As most of you know, the Prima Edizione will have a black srtipe just below the windows (see, eg, Rossa below, with and without).
Simple question, do you think it looks better with or without?
I think the stripe looks best with Gray or White. Red not so sure.
Your thoughts?
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fiatgal
11-22-2010, 02:07 PM
Personally, I say no. I think they look the same on every color. I also think it may be a gendered choice. I've never been one for stripes and decals, but maybe guys are more inclined to customize their cars that way? (I'm sure a woman will pipe up and say she wants the stripe and likes decals etc. so I should probably shut up.)

CaliberSRT4
11-22-2010, 02:17 PM
I think no stripe looks better.

Also, isn't the stripe going to be optional on the PE's?

Chris
11-22-2010, 02:33 PM
No stripe for me--my mind could be changed, however, if they changed it to the European Abarth-style, or it said "Prima" somewhere on it.

sjmst
11-22-2010, 03:03 PM
I'd normally never put that stripe on. On the other hand, I have to see it in the metal.

Gavin
11-22-2010, 03:39 PM
<quote author="cinquecento">
No stripe for me--my mind could be changed, however, if they changed it to the European Abarth-style, or it said "Prima" somewhere on it.
</quote>

THIS!!!


Make the stripe lower on the door panel area just like the Abarth stripe except it says Prima...

Highlight the First part over the 500 part...first is what Prima edition is about.

That type stripe alone would tilt me back toward getting my Prima (right now I tilt toward canceling and getting the Lounge version).

Gavin

Mike S
11-22-2010, 04:41 PM
I think it's fine and I ordered mine in red.

Minuszka
11-22-2010, 05:46 PM
No stripe for me. Mike S. - is that your old 500?

sam500
11-23-2010, 12:17 AM
I'm 80% in the no-stripe zone, although the more I look at it the more I like it :-/ (especially in red).

Definitely no stripe if I go grey.

However, I'm a huge fan of subtlety and I think the Prima looks beautiful without it.

Fiat500USA
11-23-2010, 01:12 AM
I was surprised at first, but now I like it (I like the 500 script). It's part of the package that makes the car unique along with the roof and other features. I'll leave mine on.

Gavin
11-23-2010, 01:31 AM
Mmmmm, I still stand by the fact that you have 500 on the dash, on the tires, on the seats....so put Prima on the stripe...what makes it unique is the prima part, not the 500 part...

So prima stripe like the abarth stripe...the abarth brags that it is an Abarth...the Prima should brag that it is a Prima.

Gavin

JustWilliam
11-23-2010, 01:47 AM
Stripes, polka-dots, "hello kitty"- I'm just not a fan of "graphics packages" in general. Attractive, well resolved designs can actually be diluted and even "cheapened" by adhesive vinyl distractions.

That said, they do have their place as a legitimate way to differentiate or make a statement. At one time, mass market car companies offered so many options and variations that you couldn't help but create your perfect specification, order it, and purchase YOUR car for a reasonable price. I have to give props to MINI for reintroducing that level of personalization, and to Fiat North America for offering it on a SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive car than MINI.

A Prima Edition is a very special 500. The stripes should be just as valuable as the numbered dash plate and "early adopter" status. They will always be treasured and admired along with their original owners.

Peace,
William

Mike S
11-23-2010, 09:25 AM
That pic is of my current Fiat 500. It is a 1964 500D.

Fiat did not offer the sporty stripe in 1964.

sjmst
11-23-2010, 10:56 AM
<quote author="Fiat500USA">
I was surprised at first, but now I like it (I like the 500 script). It's part of the package that makes the car unique along with the roof and other features. I'll leave mine on.
</quote>
Right, it looks proportional to the black roof. Makes the black on red theme balanced. Like I said, I
gotta see it.

othon
11-23-2010, 10:37 PM
Grey the best with stripe.

Gavin
11-24-2010, 10:52 AM
Anybody good with photoshop who can add "Prima" to the sport model in an Abarth style stripe and Abarth placement lower on the doors??

I guess I could do the vinyl as an aftermarket item, but it would be cool to have it done officially by Fiat.

Gavin

sjmst
11-24-2010, 11:47 AM
<quote author="Gavin">
Anybody good with photoshop who can add "Prima" to the sport model in an Abarth style stripe and Abarth placement lower on the doors??

I guess I could do the vinyl as an aftermarket item, but it would be cool to have it done officially by Fiat.

Gavin
</quote>
I'd love to see that!

Gavin
11-24-2010, 01:30 PM
remember that I suck at photoshop...imagine this with the stripe not slightly rotated and much better lettering...and the small round metal prima number on the door pillar...forgot to add that...grrrr...

still I like this better...red stripe on the white prima...black, or even better would be blue, on the grey model....black stripe on red version.

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Gavin

Chris
11-24-2010, 02:14 PM
Outstanding! Though I'm guessing Fiat wouldn't like the exact same colors and look of the Abarth, this would be a good template for sure! If the stripe ends up how it's been shown until now, we can all peel them off and get a custom order of ... vinyls. Never thought I'd actually be looking for a vinyl. Still, gotta flaunt the Prima if you've got it!

Gavin
11-24-2010, 02:32 PM
gah...I really need to take a photoshop course one day...holy crap did I do a horrid job here...

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I would love a similar dark blue stripe similar to this on my grey Prima...heck that alone could get me to go prima with sunroof instead of Lounge with fixed glass roof


forgot to blacken the roof on this...sorry

Gavin

sjmst
11-24-2010, 03:05 PM
<quote author="Gavin">
remember that I suck at photoshop...imagine this with the stripe not slightly rotated and much better lettering...and the small round metal prima number on the door pillar...forgot to add that...grrrr...

still I like this better...red stripe on the white prima...black, or even better would be blue, on the grey model....black stripe on red version.

<img src="http://fiat-500-usa-forum.965414.n3.nabble.com/file/n1962010/5204121123_7ab0a85e2b_z.jpg" border="0"/>

Gavin
</quote>
This looks great, thanks!

How about Red with black? <smiley image='smiley_grin.gif'/>

Gavin
11-24-2010, 05:58 PM
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sjmst
11-24-2010, 07:35 PM
Looks great, thanks, Gavin!

Mike S
11-24-2010, 09:48 PM
I like the OEM stripe better.

You can remove the stripe and put on your own if you like.

I doubt there is any extra value in a "Prima".

sam500
11-25-2010, 02:19 AM
Now I'm thinking about how much better the black mirrors look with the stripe instead of them floating in the middle of the car. I would love to see them in person before making up my mind, but I think I'm about 50/50.

sjmst
11-25-2010, 11:05 AM
<quote author="sam500">
Now I'm thinking about how much better the black mirrors look with the stripe instead of them floating in the middle of the car. I would love to see them in person before making up my mind, but I think I'm about 50/50.
</quote>
So nice to know I am not the only one obsessing about this. <smiley image='anim_blbl.gif'/>

fiatgal
11-25-2010, 11:16 AM
<quote author="sjmst">
<quote author="sam500">
Now I'm thinking about how much better the black mirrors look with the stripe instead of them floating in the middle of the car. I would love to see them in person before making up my mind, but I think I'm about 50/50.
</quote>
So nice to know I am not the only one obsessing about this. <smiley image='anim_blbl.gif'/>
</quote>

Me too! Just realized yesterday that no black stripe might mean black mirrors floating on the car. If memory serves me right, black mirrors is an option on the UK configurator.

sjmst
11-25-2010, 01:25 PM
<quote author="LauraInME">
<quote author="sjmst">
<quote author="sam500">
Now I'm thinking about how much better the black mirrors look with the stripe instead of them floating in the middle of the car. I would love to see them in person before making up my mind, but I think I'm about 50/50.
</quote>
So nice to know I am not the only one obsessing about this. <smiley image='anim_blbl.gif'/>
</quote>

Me too! Just realized yesterday that no black stripe might mean black mirrors floating on the car. If memory serves me right, black mirrors is an option on the UK configurator.
</quote>
Good point. Maybe a SMALL stripe?

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fiatgal
11-25-2010, 01:45 PM
Not bad. A little more understated.

Well one thing to remember, either with the sunroof option or the painted black roof, the black mirror will echo the roof color and not feel so lost.

I'm wondering whether the black mirrors revert to body color if one opts out of the stripe. I can't remember from the factory video Chris posted a while back, but if the mirror casing is already connected to the door when they paint, it may make more sense to keep them body color if the stripe is not being added

sjmst
11-25-2010, 02:26 PM
<quote author="LauraInME">
Not bad. A little more understated.

Well one thing to remember, either with the sunroof option or the painted black roof, the black mirror will echo the roof color and not feel so lost.

I'm wondering whether the black mirrors revert to body color if one opts out of the stripe. I can't remember from the factory video Chris posted a while back, but if the mirror casing is already connected to the door when they paint, it may make more sense to keep them body color if the stripe is not being added
</quote>

Exactly, the black mirror will still match the roof. Good question, RE the color of mirrors w/o stripe.

sam500
11-25-2010, 03:06 PM
I think the black mirrors might be a part of the Prima package, so I'm guessing they'll stay on. If you go to the fiat500.com configurator you'll be able to add the black mirrors, and they don't look as out of place as I thought they might.

I still feel like I don't need to over-advertise the fact that this is a special edition car by adding stripes or decals. The smaller badge might just be enough for me. That said, I do like the black on black play, and the way it matches the roof. Also, maybe trusting FIAT with the design their own Special Edition car might be a good thing. Maybe I'll keep it.


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sjmst
11-25-2010, 09:54 PM
<quote author="sam500">
...Also, maybe trusting FIAT with the design their own Special Edition car might be a good thing. Maybe I'll keep it.


</quote>
That what I was thinking. Also, love those wheels!

Prima 109
11-27-2010, 04:10 AM
Remember folks, these are special cars. There's only going to be 500 of them in the whole country. I spoke with a fiat rep earlier this week about the stripe and other things. The "550" logo on the stripe will only be for the Primas, anybody other than the Prima owners will get a stripe similar to that in the configuator. Also, there maybe more options available when we are asked to come in to order our cars, possibly heated seats,leather and what not.

I do like the stripe that Gavin photshoped onto the cars. maybe Chris can contact someone higher up at Fiat and suggest it instead of or with the broad stripe. Allthough, Prima Edizione should be on the stripe instead of just Prima, butthat's just my opinion.

Take care everyone.

sjmst
11-27-2010, 09:39 AM
<quote author="prima 109">
Remember folks, these are special cars. There's only going to be 500 of them in the whole country. I spoke with a fiat rep earlier this week about the stripe and other things. The "550" logo on the stripe will only be for the Primas, anybody other than the Prima owners will get a stripe similar to that in the configuator. Also, there maybe more options available when we are asked to come in to order our cars, possibly heated seats,leather and what not.

I do like the stripe that Gavin photshoped onto the cars. maybe Chris can contact someone higher up at Fiat and suggest it instead of or with the broad stripe. Allthough, Prima Edizione should be on the stripe instead of just Prima, butthat's just my opinion.

Take care everyone.

</quote>
Thanks for the info. I guess Fiat has to balance the owner's wishes for personalization and options against retaining the Prima's identity. It could get to the point where the only thing unique about the Prima is the badge!

Fiat500USA
11-29-2010, 02:04 AM
Hi Folks!

I'm going through these threads and am gathering questions/concerns/opinions and will present them to my contacts. The opinions here do not fall upon deaf ears, and I encourage everyone to join the conversation. I know Fiat values feedback.

I think Sam is correct about the balancing act. The car is a special edition and has to retain its identity.

It's going to be tough to please everyone.

Prima 109
11-29-2010, 07:26 AM
Thanks Chris for mentioning that the PE's are special cars. I myself am well aware that this is a rare car and has to be seperated from the pack, now and into the future. i'm glad to see we are on the same page.

Thanks for all of your hard work on this site.

Craig

sjmst
11-30-2010, 09:20 PM
Well, not too surprising Ebay UK has a nice assortment of lower body stripes for the 500.
A couple of them look like a great alternative to the large top stripe that seems to be standard on the Prima.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RACING-STRIPES-FIAT-500-DECAL-Kit-Stickers-Side-Arbarth-/400072079165?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d2627773d

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fiat-500-style-stripes-stickers-decals-/160322641668?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2553f95f04<nabble_img src="fiat_500_lower_stripe_for_sale.jpg" border="0"/><nabble_img src="fiat_500_low_stripe.jpg" border="0"/>

Gavin
12-01-2010, 11:23 AM
very cool....

i imagine it would be easy to have a version that said prima...

now gray with black abarth style stripe, gray with blue stripe or white with red???

Gavin

sjmst
12-01-2010, 11:42 AM
Gavin, I am betting you will soon find pretty much any style you like. At least we know we have options!

Gavin
12-02-2010, 07:24 PM
gah, forget the stripe...i want bicolor...

i want this:

<nabble_img src="NewFiat500_2010_Bologna_Motor_Show-5.jpg" border="0"/>

maybe in gray...but dang bicolor looks good...dang Europeans get all the fun stuff

Gavin

Fiat500USA
12-03-2010, 03:18 AM
<quote author="Gavin">
gah, forget the stripe...i want bicolor...

i want this:

<img src="http://fiat-500-usa-forum.965414.n3.nabble.com/file/n2008767/NewFiat500_2010_Bologna_Motor_Show-5.jpg" border="0"/>

maybe in gray...but dang bicolor looks good...dang Europeans get all the fun stuff

Gavin
</quote>
Yeah,

I would love to have access to everything they have in Europe. That's been the story of my life! But you know what, this time, WE"RE getting the good stuff! We're getting a better, updated 500 before our European friends are. This time, It's OUR TURN!

sjmst
01-03-2011, 05:48 PM
I see the poll up on the Blog page. Most people are going for red. Surprised there aren't more white!
I am still curious about stripe or no stripe. And if we will get that choice.

Fiat500USA
01-03-2011, 10:59 PM
<quote author="sjmst">
I see the poll up on the Blog page. Most people are going for red. Surprised there aren't more white!
I am still curious about stripe or no stripe. And if we will get that choice.


</quote>


I was told a few weeks ago no stripe delete option. However, this was a while ago and things may have changed. Call 1-888-242-6342 and see what they say. Maybe they can make a note in your file.

sjmst
01-04-2011, 07:52 AM
<quote author="Fiat500USA">
<quote author="sjmst">
I see the poll up on the Blog page. Most people are going for red. Surprised there aren't more white!
I am still curious about stripe or no stripe. And if we will get that choice.


</quote>


I was told a few weeks ago no stripe delete option. However, this was a while ago and things may have changed. Call 1-888-242-6342 and see what they say. Maybe they can make a note in your file.
</quote>
Ah. OK, well I can see that. They want the car to be uniform out the door. We can always take them off later, they are only stickers.

Fiat500USA
01-05-2011, 12:01 AM
That style stripe does have a historic basis. I had a couple of 850 sedans and always wanted the Abarth version, I think some had 200hp!


<nabble_img src="1968_Fiat_850_berlina_Abarth_2.jpg" border="0"/>


*this isn't my car, it was the only one I could find to illustrate this. If the owner would like me to take this down, please contact me. Thanks.

sam500
01-20-2011, 04:41 PM
Time to revive the old question (again) :)

I called the 888-FIAT number today, and was told that since the PE is set to go into production as early as next week, we can't really make changes to the orders anymore. Now, since we weren't really ever contacted about the stripe, and it was never really clear whether it was going to be optional, I was wondering a couple of things (which in retrospect should've asked over the phone):

1. Was anyone able to remove the stripes from their car by calling FIAT?

2. Does anyone think we'll be given the option to opt out of them before signing something?

I think I'm starting to come around to them, and like the idea of keeping the PE as it was intended. At the same time, I'm not sure if I would keep them if I were given the option.

sjmst
01-20-2011, 05:01 PM
<quote author="sam500">
Time to revive the old question (again) :)

I called the 888-FIAT number today, and was told that since the PE is set to go into production as early as next week, we can't really make changes to the orders anymore. Now, since we weren't really ever contacted about the stripe, and it was never really clear whether it was going to be optional, I was wondering a couple of things (which in retrospect should've asked over the phone):

1. Was anyone able to remove the stripes from their car by calling FIAT?

2. Does anyone think we'll be given the option to opt out of them before signing something?

I think I'm starting to come around to them, and like the idea of keeping the PE as it was intended. At the same time, I'm not sure if I would keep them if I were given the option.
</quote>


You note we are hearing that Fiat is building the PE's next week. If that is true, we were never contacted to see if we want to make any changes. I had the impression we would be, but perhaps that is wrong. Many unknowns, still.

As for the stripe. I have the same mixed feelings about it as you. Still, it seemd it is a sticker, and if so, should be easliy removed.

sam500
01-20-2011, 05:20 PM
To be more accurate, the woman I spoke with said that they might go into production as early as next week, but could be the week after. Either way she said that they were not allowing any last minute changes (note that I was not persistent about this, or asked to speak with someone higher up in the food chain). I am not sure if FIAT ever explicitly said that they would contact us to confirm our orders, but was told that had I called a few weeks earlier, they would've been able to accommodate any changes. For some reason, I figured they would contact us, since we hadn't even seen the car when we put down the deposits. Maybe I was wrong. We still haven't signed anything, so I'm not stressed. Worst case scenario, I'll get something else. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that!

sjmst
01-20-2011, 05:31 PM
Agreed

Mike S
01-20-2011, 05:44 PM
Yes, the Abarth sedan had a 1600 and 2000 twincam in that 850 body. Very fast with normally aspirated engines.

sketch
01-25-2011, 02:28 AM
To be fair, we weren't exactly given many options to change: you chose a colour and whether you wanted an engine block heater or a sunroof. Not a whole lot to change :P

I never would have ordered the car specifically with a stripe, but now that it's there I'm pretty into it. I like that it says "500" instead of using the checkers; the script Fiat use for "500" is really cool, in my opinion.

I think I'd actually kind of hate it if it said "PRIMA", though. A badge on the back and two inserts in the seats is enough, I think, and everyone who's "in the know" will know that the 500 stripe along the sills is a mark of the PE.

Fiat500USA
01-25-2011, 03:53 AM
<quote author="sketch">
To be fair, we weren't exactly given many options to change: you chose a colour and whether you wanted an engine block heater or a sunroof. Not a whole lot to change :P

I never would have ordered the car specifically with a stripe, but now that it's there I'm pretty into it. I like that it says "500" instead of using the checkers; the script Fiat use for "500" is really cool, in my opinion.

I think I'd actually kind of hate it if it said "PRIMA", though. A badge on the back and two inserts in the seats is enough, I think, and everyone who's "in the know" will know that the 500 stripe along the sills is a mark of the PE.
</quote>


I also like the 500 script. I waited to long to change my color, but hey, that's my fault. I'm into the color I'm getting (grey).

Gavin
01-25-2011, 11:01 AM
Happy with Grey too...if I got the Lounge it would be either Brown or Grey...

As for too late to make changes...I hope I asked for the SunRoof...I think I did, but can't remember...I know I was hoping to change it to a fixed glass roof if that was a option later, but that never came to be.

Gavin

mseraph
01-25-2011, 11:42 AM
I tried to change from Red to Grey but they said I was too late and that was just 2 days after I got notified a Prima came available. I’m liking the red though and the stripe to.

Gavin
01-25-2011, 12:57 PM
well I called Fiat...I did pre order the Prima with the sunroof...so while I would have preferred the fixed glass roof of the Lounge, well at least I got the sunroof...if I hadn't, well I would have bailed on the PE and gone Lounge. As of today, still leaning PE....

Gavin

sjmst
01-25-2011, 01:07 PM
That's great, Gavin. I think in the long run you wlll never <i>regret</i> having the option to pop the top!

Let's face it, Fiat lead us to believe that we could change our order. Then, it turns out they never asked us if we wanted to, or gave us a deadline to do so.
Oh well, there are worse things that could happen.

As for the stripe, well, let's see how it looks. If we don't like it, it comes off!

sam500
01-25-2011, 01:10 PM
I don't know if it was ever clear that they would contact us, but we had the option to change things earlier on by calling. I blame lack of communication, but am still quite excited. Even about the stripe! Who knew?

Minuszka
01-25-2011, 03:35 PM
It would be good to know if some of us could get our cars without stripes? I know that I would not need it and I was told earlier that I can get it without, instead of having to remove it. That could damage the paint and it's an extra cost on both sides.
For me, it would be great to get he car delivered without the stripes and save the $500 or so that it costs.

sjmst
01-25-2011, 03:38 PM
<quote author="Minuszka">
It would be good to know if some of us could get our cars without stripes? I know that I would not need it and I was told earlier that I can get it without, instead of having to remove it. That could damage the paint and it's an extra cost on both sides.
For me, it would be great to get he car delivered without the stripes and save the $500 or so that it costs.
</quote>


You could give the hotline a call. They told me I could, but as we now see it may not be possible.