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robbobster
03-20-2016, 02:13 PM
Hi Guys,
New to this site with my 500e.

Since lowering the front isn't an option with my driveway (it actually flexes the rubber skirt a bit more than that)...

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21360&stc=1

...I'm going to go the "leveling" route and just drop the rear on cut factory coils.

With 17's and 205/40-17 wheels, I think it'll have to do.
I'll retain OEM shocks but swap to Norcal's bumps.

How many coils do you guys think I should cut?
I'm thinking somewhere between 3/4 of a coil, or 1 full coil.
I don't mind a slight rake if it means my spring rate is more manageable for the OEM shock...but that gap is killing me.

Any insight is most appreciated.

Fiat500USA
03-20-2016, 09:59 PM
Welcome to the forum! We've got a few 500e owners that have cut down their rear springs and I'm sure someone will pipe up. I know senior member name rnddude (http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/member.php?9329-rnddude) did it to his 500e. Love to see more modded 500e models so post up some pics when you can!

Tweak
03-20-2016, 11:17 PM
Welcome to the forum.

Hopefully one of the other e owners will provide you with useful information sometime soon.

robbobster
03-20-2016, 11:44 PM
Welcome to the forum! We've got a few 500e owners that have cut down their rear springs and I'm sure someone will pipe up. I know senior member name rnddude (http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/member.php?9329-rnddude) did it to his 500e. Love to see more modded 500e models so post up some pics when you can!

It currently looks like any other Granito Lucente 500e LOL
I'll post some pics later this week when my wheels/tires/tint gets installed.

I drilled some pilot holes for an ST rear sway bar today, but it wore me out so I'll have to finish that project next week.
I only had ramps, it's not easy drilling a 1/2 hole thru steel with so little clearance...I should have waited a week and put it up on a lift, would have been way easier.

rnddude
03-21-2016, 11:35 AM
if you are keeping the front springs stock, start with 3/4 coil cuts and check out the stance. Once you are back there and have the shocks disconnected, it's very easy to cut the springs and reinstall them to check the drop progress. start conservatively on cutting, then check and cut a bit more if needed until you get what you want.

Trunkout
03-21-2016, 04:10 PM
I thought about cutting springs.... Then I finally realized that was half assed.
Ordered some Madness Aggressive II springs for the rears. Couldn't be happier.

robbobster
03-21-2016, 09:13 PM
I thought about cutting springs.... Then I finally realized that was half assed.
Ordered some Madness Aggressive II springs for the rears. Couldn't be happier.

Too much drop for me, I have the steepest driveway on earth.
In a year I'll be in a new home with a (hopefully) normal driveway, but I don't know if I can live with this gap for a year LOL

Trunkout
03-21-2016, 10:39 PM
Too much drop for me, I have the steepest driveway on earth.
In a year I'll be in a new home with a (hopefully) normal driveway, but I don't know if I can live with this gap for a year LOL

all it did was even the car out! Cheers!

rkw
03-21-2016, 11:04 PM
Too much drop for me, I have the steepest driveway on earth.Would it be any better if you back into the driveway?

robbobster
03-22-2016, 12:56 AM
Would it be any better if you back into the driveway?

The front scrapes even worse when I back in. The angles all conspire against this car LOL

rkw
03-22-2016, 02:25 AM
Then don't lower, LIFT it!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L-XlgbsEZfg/TBjja8B5ljI/AAAAAAAANDA/abHTnJNj2-8/s400/NewFiat500_extreme.jpg

robbobster
03-22-2016, 11:30 AM
all it did was even the car out! Cheers!


I think I may have misunderstood you...the only springs they offer are 2-2.5 in drop...are you saying they have a mild drop spring? Or are you saying their 500e springs alone would level it out?

I believe their springs, and an OEM front, would squat in the back?

robbobster
03-22-2016, 01:25 PM
Then don't lower, LIFT it!




It looks lifted with the fender gap...I really need to figure out how much I can drop this car.

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21382&stc=1

robbobster
03-27-2016, 12:20 PM
I gained about 1/4 inch ride height with the 17's so I have a bit to play with now.
Parts are ordered:
Abarth front springs
Moog rear springs (hat tip to moosestang in a few threads elsewhere)
KYB rear shocks with reducer bearing sleeves
Energy bump stops

This should drop the front slightly and level-out the rear.
Should have time to install in a week or two...Will post pics.

996flt6
03-27-2016, 05:46 PM
I would probably cutting any springs to avoid car bottoming out. A 1-1.25 inch drop is probably as much as you want to go. Mike

robbobster
03-27-2016, 07:07 PM
I would probably cutting any springs to avoid car bottoming out. A 1-1.25 inch drop is probably as much as you want to go. Mike


Yeah I think the moog rears (from an Maxima! LOL) should be perfect, based on the pics and threads I've read.
Brings the 5-finger gap down a bit, but doesn't eliminate it.

Cutting seemed like my only option for a moderate drop, until I stumbled across some posts/threads about the issue.

robbobster
04-05-2016, 04:47 PM
Parts are in, hoping to get it all installed later this week.
Will post pics when it's all installed.

Here's what I've got in a pile:
- Moog coils in back
- KYB rear shocks
- Abarth front coils
- New strut hats
- ST Swaybar
- Energy rear bumps

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21569&stc=1

robbobster
04-09-2016, 01:38 AM
Got everything installed, she's sitting a lot better now.
Moog coils that others reportedly have used, were too tall and stiff...it raised the rear of the car.

Thankfully, the guys at Madness just got some mild-drop coils in, so I went that route in the back.
Kudos to JJ for getting me squared away.

I'm happy with the look, and am happier with the improvement in how the car drives.
Hardly stiffer than stock, much more planted in the rear and the increased rear roll stiffness makes the car handle much more neutral...the front and rear are on the same page now.
Steering is much more precise, no more constant corrections on the highway.


http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21643&stc=1http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21644&stc=1http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21645&stc=1

rnddude
04-05-2017, 01:17 PM
As many here likely know, I was the first to experiment with lowering the 500e. I have done this mod to mine, and a handful of other 500e's, using the tried-and-true Abarth front/cut rear spring approach with different bump-stops. I recently gathered parts to do another 500e for a friend, but they got rid of their car, and now I have the parts ready without a car to put them on. Long story short, I am offering to do the mod to anyone nearby for the costs of parts and my labor. Takes an afternoon to do. If anyone is interested, PM me for details.

rnddude
04-06-2017, 10:38 AM
bump

VeeDubTDI
04-06-2017, 03:18 PM
I'll chime in with a concern for using off-the-shelf Abarth parts. Given that the 500e has a more even weight distribution (53/47), I wonder if altering spring and damping rates with parts from a car with a pretty significant front weight bias. If your Abarth suspension is working out well as-is, great, but I'd be especially reluctant to start cutting coils out of the rear springs.

Of course, my hand wringing may just be much ado about nothing - just figured I'd throw it out there.

06z
04-08-2017, 05:47 AM
Do you have any harshness in the ride quality compared to stock?