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Timetrapper
12-20-2014, 10:23 PM
15924check out this stanced Fiat, soooo stupid why would anyone do this to a fiat, hahaha. I hope this is a trend that stays overseas hahaha. Am I missing something? like do you get some reward if your car gets really close to the ground and you make the wheels slanted? does it unlock some uber awesome secret?

I think body kits are not bad but why make it go so low to the ground? then the kit looks stupid.

I posted this in the favorite pictures thread because these are my favorite pictures of fiats when I want to laugh haha

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http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5936778-Stanced-Fiat-500

Abarth619
12-20-2014, 10:58 PM
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Personally, I like seeing people experiment with different ideas. I'll admit, I'm not a huge fan of the stance scene and I've seen some people do it all wrong driving downright dangerous cars that are poorly 'stanced'. I wouldn't stance my car, but being a car enthusiast I can respect it. I'm sure I've done things to my cars in the past that would make some people turn their noses up in judgment too.

Mr. Man
12-20-2014, 11:00 PM
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S4M_WOW
12-21-2014, 02:48 AM
Like what you did with the pic Mr.Man lol. Personally I'm a big fan of stanced cars, not to the point where they're undriveable with ridiculous camber though. The stance scene is neat in the fact that I see tons of cars being built and loved that usually wouldn't be on the map, but that's just my .02.. ps it does unlock uber awesome secrets :wink:

foxxwoof
12-21-2014, 12:38 PM
I humblely disagree. I think this is one of the best looking cars on the forums right now.

http://www.stancenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Stanced-Fiat-500-Abarth-10-1140x760.jpg

Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with being stanced, slammed, lowered, etc. I happen to like slammed cars, it brings them more in line with what their race car counterpart would look like. Personally I'm not crazy about overboard camber or lowering to the point of unusability, but lowering a car is born out of a performance gain of stiffer suspension and lower center of gravity. Hellaflush, cambered, stanced, etc is just a trend taking lowering to the next extreme for looks (admittedly sometimes at the sacrifice of some performance and drivability). But it's a style, take a look at concept car art, there is a reason that artists draw cars slammed to the ground and with flushed out wheels. It's because the automobile looks more visually appealing without fender gap.

Stanced cars aren't all ruined as you seem to imply, this Fiat is a Gumball 3000 entrant and performance monster.

http://hkcarworld.com/sites/default/files/news/latest/fiat_500_abarth_by_romeo_ferraris_for_2013_gumball _3000_4.jpg

I've lowered many of my cars over the years, and never regretted doing so or felt like I gave up any performance (quite the opposite actually).

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3289/3132428082_a6610a204c_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3520/3866792020_88d3ab0c01_b.jpg

JCAV80226
12-21-2014, 01:03 PM
Love the Harlequin golf on the ATS cup wheels

Klasse Act
12-21-2014, 01:46 PM
That white Gumball Abarth isn't what I'd considered "stanced", its lowered and the wheels aren't crooked. I hate seeing "stanced" performance cars because it removes all the handling from it, atleast its how I see it. A lowered car looks much, much better than one that isn't, its just a fact but when it goes so far that the car is unsafe to drive is DUMB. Then factor in say a 195 width tire on a rim too wide and you lose air all the time, what's the point, because it looks "dope"?

foxxwoof
12-21-2014, 02:18 PM
I dunno... I consider it stanced. I'd say any car that has been significantly lowered is stanced. It doesn't necessarily have to have to be cambered too.

Stretched tires are a different subject too. I've got 195 tires on a 8" wide wheel on my Harlequin, so I have a mild stretch and its never caused me any issue, all I gained was a bit of rear tire clearance because my rear arches were eating the 205s I originally had.

Timetrapper
12-21-2014, 04:06 PM
the gumball is fine. wheel flares and kits that add body to the sides are cool. its the lowering part that is weird and the tires being lopsided looking that I think is weird.

Tweak
12-21-2014, 10:20 PM
I can't be 100% sure but I think the blue Fiat is a photoshop...only because I feel like I saw it before and it was pointed out the before after. Again not positive but it seems like it is the same pic/car.

Timetrapper
12-21-2014, 10:34 PM
the maroon one I posted a pic of in the first post, looks like a bloated whale. at least from that angle!

Babel
12-22-2014, 01:29 AM
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hells yes

texanbrit
12-22-2014, 12:16 PM
Sometimes slanted wheels are awesome :)

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boxerbay
12-22-2014, 01:52 PM
I wouldnt call someone elses creativity and hard work "dumb" "stupid"
You have no clue the amount of hard work goes into it. Try going to a low rider or stance show and you will be amazed.

All my whips are low riders.

Fiat500USA
12-22-2014, 07:54 PM
To each his own, but I wouldn't be too hasty and dis someone's ride. We may not be into it, but they love their car and that's what matters. They may not get why we love our cars, too. Car enthusiasts are endangered so we all need to stick together!

boxerbay
12-22-2014, 08:17 PM
Those cars are on air bags. Youre seeing them parked with all the air out in the photo. When they start up they air up so they can drive.

Tweak
12-23-2014, 01:16 AM
15964

hells yes

http://www.comedycentral.co.uk/sites/default/files/gallery/large/hells-no-big-bang-theory.gif

501
12-23-2014, 01:39 AM
think we all should have a cup of tea, What's your flavor?

I like mine lower than yours

Timetrapper
12-23-2014, 02:58 AM
15964

hells yes

hahaha, what a complete waste of a car and money. I like watching the videos on youtube of the cars breaking down and getting stuck in little potholes its hilarious. this is a parking lot entrance this car gets stuck on hahah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4oAKOCRy9g

here is another funny one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks6abpET8lQ

uknowthatguy
12-23-2014, 08:46 PM
http://youtu.be/9HtMH1Jmndshttp://youtu.be/9HtMH1Jmnds

boxerbay
12-23-2014, 09:39 PM
There's a right way and a wrong way to do anything.

Air Suspension - Can You Really Have it All?: http://youtu.be/dTrupjf-QFQ

http://youtu.be/dTrupjf-QFQ

Ryephile
12-23-2014, 10:39 PM
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Excellent Doge usage. bigok

Stanced, VIP, demon, hellaflush, hellafunctional, rough, rusted, OEM+, muscle, momentum, hot rod, tuner, drag strip, canyon carver, standing mile, salt flats.

All are examples of enthusiasts doing their thing in different ways. Even if you don't "get" things beyond your personal preference, have some perspective towards others interpretation of our hobby. That's a life lesson beyond just cars too.

Peace. :soap:

JLFast
12-24-2014, 12:24 AM
You forgot OEM- :o) Basically when for example, a GTI owner removes all the 'go fast look' stuff to make it look like a basic Diesel Golf. In otherwords... a Sleeper. Its one of my favorite looks.

What I dig about stance is even an 80's Chrysler LeBaron can look good. It certainly has given previously unloved cars a new lease on life. I welcome the 'dare to be different' builds.

Tweak
12-24-2014, 12:35 AM
Again the blue Fiat in the first pic is a photoshop. Check Google...the pic isn't able to be linked directly but it shows up along with the photoshopped versions via a search with Google.

See for yourself.
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&tbs=simg:CAESrwEarAELEKjU2AQaBAgBCAkMCxCwjKcIGjwKO ggCEhTkJMoblifnJOEk-CaUJ-Mk6ieMJRogpWq6VnF4c4ohxFHx08n34CM_11qCWEGL_1FPNBp3 9U6mcMCxCOrv4IGgoKCAgBEgS9gbzrDAsQne3BCRo-CgwKCmF1dG9tb2JpbGUKCQoHdmVoaWNsZQoOCgxsYW5kIHZlaG ljbGUKEwoRbW9kZSBvZiB0cmFuc3BvcnQM&q=stanced+fiat+500&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=A0KaVPCaEYHfggTLtIGQBA&ved=0CCkQsw4&biw=1536&bih=783

andybee
12-24-2014, 04:42 AM
If you don't like it move on. Most of these are bagged or PS anyway. Some are too extreme for my liking, but I wouldn't piss on someones creativity. Art, Design is subjective. If we all liked the same, we'd all live in the same houses and drive....shudder, Toyota Corolla's.

These very themes are what drives (mostly young) car culture and car enthusiasts which keeps its alive for the next generation. I'm from the UK and while I wasn't one of these (LOL), there were plenty of guys in their ragged Vauxhall Novas, Citroen Saxos, Peugeot 106's who thought there car was the next best thing. Chances are a few of them might own really cool cars now.

boxerbay
12-24-2014, 11:18 AM
You forgot OEM- :o) 80's Chrysler LeBaron can look good.

I'm not sure about that part. but yeah.

nojeebs
12-24-2014, 11:40 PM
I'm a huge fan of all styles and to make a thread dissing a certain style of build is really not a true enthusiast move. (without even doing proper research. All 3 of OPs photos posted are photoshops.) Build it for yourself...happy holidays everyone. ;)

FTY
12-25-2014, 12:58 AM
I think "stanced" cars are incredible. Are my cars stanced no, but they are pretty low. Do I sacrifice ride quality and a bit of performance yes, but I go into it knowing that. That's the difference.

Its not for everyone. Basically its your car and you do what makes you happy, that's the point!

http://www.eurocompulsion.net/ABARTHTHROGSNECK4.jpg

http://www.eurocompulsion.net/ABARTHRUNWAY26.jpg

MattLima
12-25-2014, 01:17 AM
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w116/ashinsole/10592690_332670590248277_4044005608471224143_n.jpg (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/ashinsole/media/10592690_332670590248277_4044005608471224143_n.jpg .html)

Not slammed, but I do have a bit of poke.

501
12-25-2014, 04:26 PM
mine sits a little with some poke

JCAV80226
12-25-2014, 07:07 PM
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Heres pictures of my new wheels kinda stanced but i also have a different set for track days and i adjust the coilovers as need be for events

AudiGuy
12-25-2014, 10:09 PM
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Yeah, poor form on starting this thread. Stanced isn't for me since it sacrifices handling. But I'm not gonna hate on anyone for how they want to mod THEIR car. But I guarantee someone with a Stanced out car can't hang with me in the corners. Having a 10-20% contact patch on a tire makes handling horrible. But some are more in it for the look than the performance. My tires have a slight stretch only because I bought the replacement tires in the stock size, right before I decided to buy wheels

Tweak
12-25-2014, 11:16 PM
As stated in my image above it's a "hellz no" FOR ME, just makes no sense for someone that likes to carve corners but they're fun to look at and wonder how they manage to deal with the issues that come with such a dramatic style choice. It's a lot easier to stance a ride in photoshop than for realz. :D

Timetrapper
12-26-2014, 04:27 PM
15999
16000

Heres pictures of my new wheels kinda stanced but i also have a different set for track days and i adjust the coilovers as need be for events

can you link me those rims please? they are sweet! I'm going to swap out my stock rims and try to get some white ones. Those are white or chrome? a bit hard to tell but i havent' see that style before.

zyxelenator
12-26-2014, 04:52 PM
can you link me those rims please? they are sweet! I'm going to swap out my stock rims and try to get some white ones. Those are white or chrome? a bit hard to tell but i havent' see that style before.

Those are ESM wheels. I were going to get those when I planned on White on Red color combo with my car, but plans changed after I got Carbon Hood. google ESM wheels and search 4x98 on their website.

JLFast
12-28-2014, 02:03 PM
Fitment question. And this may not be the place to ask this, but since so many photos are shown....

To those running low Fiat's with poke. Are you using coilovers? The extreme drop Madness springs?

Ive installed 12mm front / 16mm rear spacers on my stock Abarth rims to get them out to the fender lip. Questions is, how far down can I go and still carry the kids to school?!

What drop and offsets are you guys using to get the 'look'?

FTY
12-29-2014, 11:41 AM
Fitment question. And this may not be the place to ask this, but since so many photos are shown....

To those running low Fiat's with poke. Are you using coilovers? The extreme drop Madness springs?

Ive installed 12mm front / 16mm rear spacers on my stock Abarth rims to get them out to the fender lip. Questions is, how far down can I go and still carry the kids to school?!

What drop and offsets are you guys using to get the 'look'?

Bilsteins (white car w/ 17x8 wheels and 5mm spacers all around, final offset 33) and KW V3s (Red car with 17x7s with 10mm spacers final off set 25, front fenders rolled)

gundam2000
12-29-2014, 03:35 PM
FTY your cars look HOT!

orneryduck
03-14-2015, 09:50 AM
'Stancing' is utterly retarded for a car that is driven on the road or the track. Like rat rods, low riders, extreme trucks, or even Bosozoku vehicles; I can appreciate them as an art form, making a statement without any necessary purpose. It is wholly foolish to believe that excessive negative camber, reduced suspension travel, or narrowed contact patch aids handling or performance. Every stanced car I've experienced on the road has frustrated me to no end as they go so incredibly slow around turns or accelerate away from lights slowly so as not to suffer wheels rubbing due to weight transfer to the rear and I've never seen them at the track despite the many zealots whom crow the performance advantages across many a web forums.

Some of the stanced cars look fantastic, emphasis on look! The milder ones likely even handle, but they will forgo many of the stretch, tuck, poke philosophies that make the stance statement. There is a lovely Blue/Green 500 on here that is tasteful, slightly stanced and likely gives little up in regards to handling; that I get, that I thoroughly enjoy. Foxwoof's examples, the harlequin Golf and spiffy Abarth are quite the lookers as well but the dramatic drop on the Abarth will hinder it in performance driving due to the substantially limited travel.

I think the best functional stance for a street-driven 500 is the factory Abarth with 17" wheels. If tracking, downsize to 16's for improved tire selection, cost, weight, and flexibility in tuning the suspension using tire flex (this is a common trick in a lot of grassroots and even high-level racing).

Delicious!
http://pictures.dealer.com/t/theautogalleryfiat/1677/f6e944f70a0d028a0128647a65665c90.jpg

This was my closest foray into what might now fall under stance....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/240sx/110507photoshoot/S14_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/240sx/110507photoshoot/S14_5.jpg

boxerbay
03-14-2015, 03:24 PM
This guys 3rd post and hes crapping on "stanced" rides. ?

Welcome to the forum you pissed off quack?

Wolfwood
03-14-2015, 04:01 PM
This was my closest foray into what might now fall under stance....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/240sx/110507photoshoot/S14_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/DopefishLives/240sx/110507photoshoot/S14_5.jpg


Is that... a strawberry face'd s14, with mustang wheels?

orneryduck
03-14-2015, 06:05 PM
This guys 3rd post and hes crapping on "stanced" rides. ?

Welcome to the forum you pissed off quack?

LOL. you punny. I'm working on the post-count. ;)


Is that... a strawberry face'd s14, with mustang wheels?

Yep, it was a great car; if they weren't so popular (and thus expensive) I'd have another.

orneryduck
03-14-2015, 09:13 PM
For the record, I was highly positive of stanced cars as an interest, art, or for lack of a better word, lifestyle choice. There are several visually appealing examples, even in this thread. My statement was targeted, maybe incorrectly in the initial scope this thread but not in the direction some replies went, at the sentiment that these attributes somehow have a positive affect on handling or performance.

You like what you like and I or anyone else cannot take that from you. I'm sure there are plenty of people that think I'm nuts for having such an affinity toward the aesthetics of a stock 500; it is just a stellar design that is both practical and pretty.

Wolfwood
03-15-2015, 03:06 AM
Is that... a strawberry face'd s14, with mustang wheels?


Yep, it was a great car; if they weren't so popular (and thus expensive) I'd have another.

I can dig it :thumbsup:

orneryduck
03-15-2015, 07:41 AM
I can dig it :thumbsup:

It was the cheapest way to clear the BBK and get 245 tires under her. That particular wheel design (Ford Bullitt Heritage wheels) apes from the American Racing Torque Thrust D's of yesteryear, with a much more refined profile to the spokes. I was obsessed with those wheels back then, still love them now, and relished in the responses I'd get from Mustang/Camaro owners. I was collecting parts for an LS1 swap before a drastic rise in Orlando 240sx thefts scared me into selling.

kpg2713
06-25-2015, 06:27 PM
I humblely disagree. I think this is one of the best looking cars on the forums right now.

http://www.stancenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Stanced-Fiat-500-Abarth-10-1140x760.jpg

Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with being stanced, slammed, lowered, etc. I happen to like slammed cars, it brings them more in line with what their race car counterpart would look like. Personally I'm not crazy about overboard camber or lowering to the point of unusability, but lowering a car is born out of a performance gain of stiffer suspension and lower center of gravity. Hellaflush, cambered, stanced, etc is just a trend taking lowering to the next extreme for looks (admittedly sometimes at the sacrifice of some performance and drivability). But it's a style, take a look at concept car art, there is a reason that artists draw cars slammed to the ground and with flushed out wheels. It's because the automobile looks more visually appealing without fender gap.

Stanced cars aren't all ruined as you seem to imply, this Fiat is a Gumball 3000 entrant and performance monster.

http://hkcarworld.com/sites/default/files/news/latest/fiat_500_abarth_by_romeo_ferraris_for_2013_gumball _3000_4.jpg

I've lowered many of my cars over the years, and never regretted doing so or felt like I gave up any performance (quite the opposite actually).

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3289/3132428082_a6610a204c_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3520/3866792020_88d3ab0c01_b.jpg

OP is trolling...

Good to see the mk3 in here :thumbsup: That was the car that got me started with suspension.