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Abarth Five O
07-16-2014, 03:09 AM
Planning to upgrade my brakes with Stop Tech Sport drilled/slotted rotors, EBC red pads, and NeuF SS brake lines for spirited street driving. Any one with knowledge and experience using these products, your comments and feedback will be appreciated.

nilfinite
07-16-2014, 10:29 AM
I installed blank rotors, redstuffs and the neuf ss brake lines a couple of weekends ago. (I posted a thread about my fun times with the brake lines)

In terms of performance, the setup is clearly better than stock in every way. Better brake feel, more stopping power, less brake dust. I would guess 75% brake application with this setup is equal to 100% brake application with the stock setup.

So far no unwanted brake noises (squealing, chirping, etc.). I'd use the shims that come with the brake pads.

Only thing that I've noticed is that the brake bias on this car is favored towards the front brakes. If you were looking to bring the bias a little bit more towards to the rear, you could hack it by using more aggressive brake pads back there.

shagghie
07-16-2014, 11:39 AM
You are running those gorgeous 5 spoke so I understand the desire for a nice looking brake set-up, but I think slotted are about as far as I would go. Drilled is best for extreme situations and even then, not always. Unsolicited opinion... my bad. :-) carry on!


Planning to upgrade my brakes with Stop Tech Sport drilled/slotted rotors, EBC red pads, and NeuF SS brake lines for spirited street driving. Any one with knowledge and experience using these products, your comments and feedback will be appreciated.

Abarth Five O
07-16-2014, 12:58 PM
I installed blank rotors, redstuffs and the neuf ss brake lines a couple of weekends ago. (I posted a thread about my fun times with the brake lines)

In terms of performance, the setup is clearly better than stock in every way. Better brake feel, more stopping power, less brake dust. I would guess 75% brake application with this setup is equal to 100% brake application with the stock setup.

So far no unwanted brake noises (squealing, chirping, etc.). I'd use the shims that come with the brake pads.

Only thing that I've noticed is that the brake bias on this car is favored towards the front brakes. If you were looking to bring the bias a little bit more towards to the rear, you could hack it by using more aggressive brake pads back there.

Thanks for your feedback! Very helpful. I read your thread on the brakes lines and glad you were able to fix it with the die thread. I'm planning have pro brake shop do the install for me so I'll be sure to warn them about the potential problem of unthreading the oem brake lines.

Abarth Five O
07-16-2014, 01:03 PM
You are running those gorgeous 5 spoke so I understand the desire for a nice looking brake set-up, but I think slotted are about as far as I would go. Drilled is best for extreme situations and even then, not always. Unsolicited opinion... my bad. :-) carry on!

Thanks Shagghie! Another trusted source also advised me to go w/ slotted rotors for best all around perf, but the desire for the look of drilled/slotted to compliment by NeuF wheels is killing me, lol. What brake set up are you running?

Abarth Five O
08-17-2014, 03:03 PM
Finally settled on and installed R1 Premier Slotted Rotors, EBC Red brake pads, and NeuF SS brake lines. After much deliberations, I decided to go with slotted rotors as they have more surface area for better braking (per Norcal's rec), more race cars use slotted only, and there's no chance of crap getting stuck inside the holes of drilled/slotted rotors (per my trusted pro brake shop who did the install). R1 Premier Slotted rotors are very well made, high quality, at a very affordable price (Thanks Tony!) The combination with EBC Red brake pads and NeuF SS brakes lines (also at very competitive prices, thanks Chris/EC!) is a huge upgrade and improvement over the oem set up. After over 100 mi., I'm getting better bite, more precise and even braking power during my normal and spirited DD. What really surprised me is that I'm getting absolutely no chirping sound from the EBC Red pads during initial 1k mi. break in period. Bottom line: very pleased with this upgrade and for the price and performance of this combo, it's tough deal to beat, imho. For all you guys upping your HP, don't forget about upping your brakes as well. Having all the extra HP is worthless unless you can control it too on the road or track. Here are a few pics:
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slowbird
08-17-2014, 05:12 PM
Looks great! Very nice.

Abarth Fun
08-17-2014, 06:29 PM
Planning to upgrade my brakes with Stop Tech Sport drilled/slotted rotors, EBC red pads, and NeuF SS brake lines for spirited street driving. Any one with knowledge and experience using these products, your comments and feedback will be appreciated.

The only (so far) track experience I have of any kind has been at Carolina Motorsports Park. My instructor was a British racer named Phil Wicks. He has been racing Minis primarily since the '60s. I bring this up because one of the upgrades he recommended for my car is EBC yellow pads. I went to the EBC website (ebcbrakes.com) and there they compare and contrast their green, red, and yellow pads. They all sound like exceptionally good products. I'm wondering though based on the EBC web descriptions whether the yellow pads might be the best for your use. They supposedly are very street able and apparently have better repeated heat capability than the other two. At any rate I am looking forward to what you find out.

Abarth Five O
08-17-2014, 10:27 PM
I went with the reds for the lowest dust output and for hi perf street use. If you're want more info on which EBC pads are right for your use, you should contact Chris at EC.

modular
08-23-2014, 09:58 AM
Was the use of a disc brake caliper tool needed to run the caliper pistons in-I think rear only? I am doing pads and rotors this coming weekend and want to make sure I have everything I need.

Abarth Five O
08-23-2014, 02:02 PM
Yes, I believe my brake shop tech used the caliper tool for the fronts and rears.

Fiat500USA
08-23-2014, 02:38 PM
Was the use of a disc brake caliper tool needed to run the caliper pistons in-I think rear only? I am doing pads and rotors this coming weekend and want to make sure I have everything I need.

The rear needs to be tuned in while being compressed. The fronts are conventional and just need to be compressed. Depending on the tool used, some come with adapters to compress the front and also can screw in the rear. Autozone loans out the tool if you need one, or they are pretty cheap at Harbor Freight. Worth having.

Below is a picture of the Fiat 500 front caliper piston:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y1qEgmbLkOU/U_jg_a1g2FI/AAAAAAAAVaI/zg_js29hm_E/s800/Fiat_500_Front_Caliper.jpg

FTY
08-23-2014, 04:10 PM
The rear needs to be tuned in while being compressed. The fronts are conventional and just need to be compressed. Depending on the tool used, some come with adapters to compress the front and also can screw in the rear. Autozone loans out the tool if you need one, or they are pretty cheap at Harbor Freight. Worth having.

Below is a picture of the Fiat 500 front caliper piston:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y1qEgmbLkOU/U_jg_a1g2FI/AAAAAAAAVaI/zg_js29hm_E/s800/Fiat_500_Front_Caliper.jpg



Here is the tool. Most Automotive stores carry them, they usually cost between $10-15.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71C80PPdz8L._SL1500_.jpg

Guest
08-23-2014, 06:34 PM
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I used this, free rental from Canadian Tire but sure some other car parts stores loan them

Fiat500USA
08-23-2014, 11:27 PM
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I used this, free rental from Canadian Tire but sure some other car parts stores loan them

If you can go for it this works better than the cube. It's more money, but sometimes the cube doesn't work because you also need to push the piston in while turning. Some calipers won't just screw in without pushing it in at the same time, especially if they are old.

modular
08-24-2014, 03:12 PM
It made more sense to me going with a kit. Went with this from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RDGMNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/scottozanne/misc1/kit_zps28c575db.jpg