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pk9394
03-24-2014, 09:27 AM
I had about 14000 miles on these P-Zero Nero. Looks like they can go for another 8 to 10k miles, but the noise is killing me. Compare to my winter tire, these nero is super louder. They get louder and louder!
I am looking for replacement either summer or all season tire that they are quieter and better than the OEM? I donít track the car. If I go for 215/40-17 will I get any rubbing issue? Or should I stay with 205?

Any recommendation? Btw, my set up is Eibach pro-kit coil, Koni yellow rear, RRM big red, RRM chassis brace and 5mm Eibach spacer all around.

Thanks!

theporschephile
03-24-2014, 09:34 AM
Technically 215/40-17 shouldn't rub, but I did get rubbing in the rear, and it turned out that the rear axle was bent from the factory (still waiting to hear from fiat about getting me a new one). That said, I do like my direzza ZIIs a lot more than the p-zero neros. I got rid of those after like 3k miles. Unfortunately it seems to be hard to find tires in 205/40 or 215/40, so there aren't a ton of great options out there. I remember the rivals weren't an option, and the azenis were, but can't really think of what else I looked at. Federal 595s have been mentioned on this site, but are very hard to find. Where I am (Columbus, OH) the closest two dealers are Cleveland and Cincinnati (each about 2 hours away), but you may have better luck in NY.

boostaddict
03-24-2014, 09:51 AM
I'm running 215/40/17's w/ Neu-F springs no rubbing.

YoungEnthusiast
03-24-2014, 11:18 AM
For 205/40/17 I heard the kumho ecsta 4x is a very nice all season tire. There is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 that I was looking at for an all season that has got nothing but great reviews if you want to spend that money. As for summer tires in that, I'm running the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 sport and they are massively more comfortable and quieter than the Pirellis. I also hear the Yokohama S drives are nice. Not too sure about grip since it's been too cold to really test them. If you want the best grip for 205 or 215 I think the Dizerra ZIIs are your best bet. Really almost anything is quieter than the P-Zero Neros

FTY
03-24-2014, 11:39 AM
Cheap summer rubber GT RADIAL UHP1s ($70) 215/40/17 They get pretty good reviews and I have had them on the white Abarth for a week or two and have performed pretty good so far.

Great Summer tires Falken Rt615k ($135) 215/40/17 or 205/40/17s One of my favorite tires to date.

the stig
03-24-2014, 12:29 PM
I bought General G-Max AS03's 205-40-17 (all season) to go on my lightweight OZ wheels. Nice tire, only 18 lbs and a great deal at $80. They are about 2-3 lbs lighter than most tires that size.

boostaddict
03-24-2014, 12:53 PM
Cheap summer rubber GT RADIAL UHP1s ($70) 215/40/17 They get pretty good reviews and I have had them on the white Abarth for a week or two and have performed pretty good so far.

Great Summer tires Falken Rt615k ($135) 215/40/17 or 205/40/17s One of my favorite tires to date.

Yes! I can agree , I'm rockin the 215/40 Falken Rrt615k's and they are bad ass set of rubber for the money!

pk9394
03-24-2014, 12:54 PM
what about the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport in 205 size? $100 per tire. I see many use G-Max here, sound like a good tire, but I never wear this brand before.

modular
03-24-2014, 04:52 PM
I am currently running the General G-Max AS03's. Did very good in the snow we had here this winter but I have already got them to squeal around a corner (huge pet peeve) and they don't grip as well as I like. The sidewall as a bit squishy and turn in is not all that quick. That being said, I will be using these as my winter tires. This weekend I am having a set of the Bridgestone Potenza RE760's installed. All of these tires are in the OEM 205/40-17 size.

Dr. FIAT
03-24-2014, 10:18 PM
Kumho Ecsta AST's here, 205's on a 17. Good tire for 70 apiece! No problems at all. Replaced my stock P-Zero Nero's at 14K

zyxelenator
03-24-2014, 10:46 PM
Just got Hankook Ventus V2 Concept H437 in 205/45/16 size installed along with RoadForce balance. Feels really smooth, minimal vibrations and much much less noise. My stock tires were done at 20k miles, going to get alignment redone soon.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/hanhhf.xl.jpg

Thunderbolt
03-24-2014, 10:55 PM
For summer dd use with our cars, is it better to have a larger contact patch with the 215's, or more ground pressure with the 205's?

NORCAL SS
03-24-2014, 11:54 PM
215 40 17 BFG G FORGE TA

STOCK 205 VS 215 BFG
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/NORCALSTI/20130621_175110.jpeg

Ronen
03-25-2014, 12:02 AM
i just change my tires after 14,800 miles to Toyo Proxes4Plus, love them... went on a ride to Oaji, Perfect...
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pk9394
03-28-2014, 01:31 PM
thanks for everyone!

I think I am going for Kumho Ecsta LE Sport 215/40-17. I never had Kumho before, but the reviews are rated very high. I am give it a try!
Anyone have that? and do you like it?

Tweak
03-28-2014, 07:51 PM
thanks for everyone!

I think I am going for Kumho Ecsta LE Sport 215/40-17. I never had Kumho before, but the reviews are rated very high. I am give it a try!
Anyone have that? and do you like it?

I've used the same brand but different model on three cars now and I have been happy with them for the price paid.

banzaitoyota
03-28-2014, 07:57 PM
Just got the federal 595 Evo's for 176 shipped a pair

ivmill
03-29-2014, 12:05 PM
This is a little off topic but I'm also in search of some new rubber. with 11k on the odometer my rears are nearly shot. I had it aligned a while back but that evil rear toe got me. I'm going to jump up to a 215 but was wondering if there's any particular reason why I couldn't swap the factory Pzeros to the rear and put the two fresh tires up front? Then once those get cooked picking up the other pair and rotating the fronts to the back. The staggered size shouldn't have much, if any, impact on daily driving. I just wanted to see if there were any consequences I hadn't thought of.

NORCAL SS
03-29-2014, 12:17 PM
Already did that you will be fine. It didnt throw off abs on 2 customers cars had 205 front 215 40 17 rear. Just I would not run different size tires on same axle.

pk9394
04-17-2014, 09:39 AM
My 215/40-17 Kumko LE sport installed last Saturday, I have to say this rubber is really sticky and they are very low noise compare to the pzero. Now the car ride much comfortable than stock!

But my front with the 5mm spacer do rub if I enter the driveway too fast or hitting a big bump. after the spacer is off, the front is all good now. the rear still remain with 5mm spacer, they look much better that way!

Here is my setup
215/40-17 Kumko Ecsta LE sport on stock 17 inch, Eibach pro-kit coil, Koni yellow rear, RRM big red, RRM chassis brace and 5mm spacer at the rear. no spacer in the front

FYI: Kumko offer $100 rebate on set of 4 on these Ecsta LE sport

haivle
04-17-2014, 09:43 AM
Im running the michelin pilot super sport A/S been driving for about 2k km loving it soo far no noise, i cant stand the noise of the p zero changed it after 22k km

MarkG
04-17-2014, 10:05 AM
For 205/40/17 I heard the kumho ecsta 4x is a very nice all season tire. There is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 that I was looking at for an all season that has got nothing but great reviews if you want to spend that money. As for summer tires in that, I'm running the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 sport and they are massively more comfortable and quieter than the Pirellis. I also hear the Yokohama S drives are nice. Not too sure about grip since it's been too cold to really test them. If you want the best grip for 205 or 215 I think the Dizerra ZIIs are your best bet. Really almost anything is quieter than the P-Zero Neros
Thinking of the Michelin to replace my 16" latter in the year.

Guest
04-17-2014, 10:33 AM
Anyone have any problems with 215/40/17 on stock suspension? Installation ok?

pk9394
04-17-2014, 10:53 AM
Anyone have any problems with 215/40/17 on stock suspension? Installation ok?

I am sure you will not have any problem on the stock suspension with the 215/40-17

TimAllen
04-17-2014, 11:27 AM
I got 215/40/17 on my car with stock suspension and the back driver side rubbed on hard cornering
I assume because of the shifted(bent, which ever it is) axle problem. Thats why only one side rubbed
I got 5mm spacers in the back and it fixed the problem and they don't rub at all anymore.
But I got Yokohama AD08R tires which are a really wide 215. (tread width 8.2" )
Compare to a 215 Yokohama s-drive tire which has a tread width of 7.7".
I looked and a 225 sdrive tire has a tread width of 8.1". So the AD08R 215 is as big as some 225s.
So you should be fine!
You can see in the picture that sidewalls are pretty much vertical
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pk9394
04-17-2014, 12:01 PM
he is mine
5mm spacer at the rear
http://www.whatsfree.net/ebay/rear.jpg

no spacer in the front
http://www.whatsfree.net/ebay/front.jpg

Guest
04-17-2014, 12:16 PM
he is mine
5mm spacer at the rear
http://www.whatsfree.net/ebay/rear.jpg

no spacer in the front
http://www.whatsfree.net/ebay/front.jpg

Looks great, no stretching on the rim?

spotman
05-12-2014, 10:52 PM
I have Neu-F springs and koni yellows, my wheels are the stock 16" sport one's. The tires are 195/45/16 conti's, so, what is the widest tire that I can put on and have no rubbing issue. Thanks, if this has been answered before, sorry about that, I couldn't find any information.

NORCAL SS
05-12-2014, 11:06 PM
I have Neu-F springs and koni yellows, my wheels are the stock 16" sport one's. The tires are 195/45/16 conti's, so, what is the widest tire that I can put on and have no rubbing issue. Thanks, if this has been answered before, sorry about that, I couldn't find any information.



my bumpstops and i put 205 45 16 on the stock wheels with no issues.

spotman
05-12-2014, 11:33 PM
Thanks Tony for the info, oh, I forgot to mention that I have your bumpstops also. They make alot of difference, thanks.

Winston
06-07-2014, 08:42 PM
I have 6000 miles on 2013 Abarth and noticed a screw in tire as I installed Neuf Torsion Bar, what a great improvement. At the Big O after tire was repaired they noticed a bulge in side wall, separation and said to watch as it could fail. I am looking now at replacing all four very soon.
Tread wear is more than 50%, what tires do you like that will last longer and will still handle well ?

BrokenEagle
06-08-2014, 09:21 AM
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?15803-Michelin-Pilot-Sport-Review&highlight=michelinI am really likeing my Michelin Sport A/S'!
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flysquasher
06-09-2014, 01:50 PM
I have run 205/40/17 Cooper Zeon AS3's for about 3,000 miles now and I like them a lot. They had a $70 rebate about a month ago. I would buy these again!

kdawg
06-09-2014, 05:40 PM
i have the sumitomo 205/40 17 and they are probably one of the best tires ive had, and theyre cheap to top it off and a million times quieter than the oem tires and more grip