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lagallinavecchia
01-21-2014, 02:13 PM
I know I can fit a 225/45/17 but will it rub on a lowered Abarth? I'm sure someone else has done it :)

Also any suggestions for tires? These will be Summer tires only.
I will eventually replace the PZeros with something with a little more bite and use the stock wheels for winter(ish) driving.

Thanks.

rnddude
01-21-2014, 05:17 PM
Sorry, it will rub. I am running 205/45/17 on 17 x 7.5, lowered, and I have some rubbing on the rear fender liners due to the extra height of the wheels/tires. There is also some minor rubbing on the front during turn-in. I would suggest you either go to a max 225-40 aspect ratio tire, or expect to do some wheel well surgery.

lagallinavecchia
01-21-2014, 05:39 PM
Ahhh damn... that's what I figured. Big thanks for the reply.
I'll go with whatever will work, without any mods to the car.

stealthy1ss
01-21-2014, 06:55 PM
What are you guys lowered on and what is the offset of your wheels?


Sorry, it will rub. I am running 205/45/17 on 17 x 7.5, lowered, and I have some rubbing on the rear fender liners due to the extra height of the wheels/tires. There is also some minor rubbing on the front during turn-in. I would suggest you either go to a max 225-40 aspect ratio tire, or expect to do some wheel well surgery.

Good luck finding a 225/40/17 because it looks like Tire Rack only has Hoosiers in that size. I am not saying they don't exist its just very rare to find a decent summer tire in that size.

frank283
01-21-2014, 08:21 PM
Im running a 215/40/17 on 17/7.5 its pretty close no rubbing but don't know if Id go bigger. Stock height.

dart1.4t
01-21-2014, 09:17 PM
stock tires are about 23" tall. in a 215 or 225 17 you'd be at a 35 aspect ratio. taller might look good filling the wheel arches, but you do introduce speedometer error. 225 45r 17 is stock on a dart and are 2" taller. that's over 8%. at 70mph the speedo will read 64. if you want a taller tire than stock a 40r is probably a better match in a 215 or 225.

stealthy1ss
01-21-2014, 09:53 PM
If you go from the OEM 17's its only 1.3" difference. Stock tires are 23.7 and most 225/45/17 are 25".

NORCAL SS
01-22-2014, 01:58 AM
im running 215 40 17 bfg tires and here is a comparison side by side vs stock. the pass side of these cars rim sticks out more so i had to roll the lip on that side but drivers was fine but my car is lowered. If your going to a 225 45 17 and STOCK height you should be ok but lowered and if the offset sticks out more will rub for sure.



http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/NORCALSTI/20130621_175110.jpeg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/NORCALSTI/20130621_191646.jpeg

lagallinavecchia
01-22-2014, 09:56 AM
Thanks all for the replies.

I'm on BC coilovers, riding pretty low. I'd prefer not to mess up the speedo at all, so I guess I'll be doing some tire calculations to try to keep a similar profile.

Now WHICH tires to get...

lagallinavecchia
01-22-2014, 10:09 AM
So I just called Michelin, who walked me through an extensive Q & A about my car, took all of my info, address, phone number, email... just to tell me "you should go speak to an authorized tire dealer for these questions." I'm guessing they don't like the idea of going to a different size than stock and they don't want to be responsible for my tire shredding because it rubs on the wheel well.

So she asks "is there anything else I can do?" I said yes, delete my information from your system.

NORCAL SS
01-22-2014, 10:33 AM
so you know bfg tires run wide. My 215 are as wide as 225 kumhos and 225 toyos

lagallinavecchia
01-22-2014, 10:48 AM
so you know bfg tires run wide. My 215 are as wide as 225 kumhos and 225 toyos

Good to know, thanks. I was looking at the Dunlop ZII, among a few others. I know some run a 215/40/17 on a lowered Abarth with no rubbing. That size keeps the diameter within a half inch. The wheels are made for the Abarth so no wobble bolts or spacers.

rnddude
01-22-2014, 12:39 PM
So I just called Michelin, who walked me through an extensive Q & A about my car, took all of my info, address, phone number, email... just to tell me "you should go speak to an authorized tire dealer for these questions." I'm guessing they don't like the idea of going to a different size than stock and they don't want to be responsible for my tire shredding because it rubs on the wheel well.

So she asks "is there anything else I can do?" I said yes, delete my information from your system.
FYI, I ended up getting Michelin Pilot Sport 3 A/S all-season tires in 205-45-17 on a 7.5 rim. My other choice was a 215-40-70 which was a little less tall. So far they are grippy, yet quiet. Always had good luck with Michi's

lagallinavecchia
01-22-2014, 02:34 PM
FYI, I ended up getting Michelin Pilot Sport 3 A/S all-season tires in 205-45-17 on a 7.5 rim. My other choice was a 215-40-70 which was a little less tall. So far they are grippy, yet quiet. Always had good luck with Michi's

A 70 inch wheel!?!? That must look AWESOME!!! Hehe...

Actually I'm thinking 215/40 as well.

rnddude
01-22-2014, 05:39 PM
OOPS, my bad....

lagallinavecchia
01-23-2014, 09:52 AM
OOPS, my bad....

Just busting your onions -- thanks for the input.

FTY
01-23-2014, 10:21 AM
These:

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?ra=searchTiresBySize.do&fl=&pc=18306&counter=0&ar=40&rd=17&cs=215

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/falhzc.ang.jpg

Excellent....on my second set already. (Had to swap for a wider set for 7.5 wheels)

lagallinavecchia
01-23-2014, 11:06 AM
Thanks Chris! So, no rub with the 215/40/17?

Separate Q, do you run TPMS on the NEUFs?

Abarth Five O
01-23-2014, 03:54 PM
These:

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?ra=searchTiresBySize.do&fl=&pc=18306&counter=0&ar=40&rd=17&cs=215

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/falhzc.ang.jpg


Excellent....on my second set already. (Had to swap for a wider set for 7.5 wheels)

I have these tires too, love em!

trevc
01-23-2014, 04:21 PM
I bought Chris's first set from him. Only done one autocross on them so far but they performed excellent!

These:

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?ra=searchTiresBySize.do&fl=&pc=18306&counter=0&ar=40&rd=17&cs=215

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/falhzc.ang.jpg

Excellent....on my second set already. (Had to swap for a wider set for 7.5 wheels)

dart1.4t
01-24-2014, 10:04 AM
when comparing tires look up the tread width. the number on the size is section width but some tires can have more tread width vs the section width. you may find a set of 205 or 215 that have as much tread area as a 225. it takes some research but the numbers are out there.

lagallinavecchia
01-24-2014, 06:39 PM
when comparing tires look up the tread width. the number on the size is section width but some tires can have more tread width vs the section width. you may find a set of 205 or 215 that have as much tread area as a 225. it takes some research but the numbers are out there.

Great info thank you.

FTY
01-24-2014, 08:07 PM
I bought Chris's first set from him. Only done one autocross on them so far but they performed excellent!

Yeah I wasn't sure you got a chance to run them yet....they are a great tire for the money and the wear fairly well.