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AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 12:09 PM
Hey Guys, my name is Eric. I live in Boynton beach FL. Ive been building my Audi TT for the past 5-6 years. It has been fun, but expensive. And for those of you that are unfamiliar, Audis are super unreliable. So Ive about had it with this bulid. The wife and I are looking to buy a house, and the addition of E85 to my build has shown the weakness in my clutch. 30 psi will do that.

So, Ive got a hook up with a dealership local to me, and Im getting the itch to jump in an abarth. They actually have one on the lot with 15k miles on it in white. Great looking car, and I think its calling my name. If I do it, Ill have to start the modding process right away. Im not going to go crazy with this build like I did the TT. Im going to keep it pretty simple. My plan is to sell most of the mods I can easily take off of the Audi, to fund upgrades for the new Abarth. Ill be looking for

DP
Cat back (or a full turbo back set up)
Intake
Tune
coilovers
Rear sway bar
etc.

Ideally, I would like to find a company that sells a staged kit. Id like to save a few bucks doing so if possible. If anyone has any recommendations, Id love to hear them.

Heres a couple pics of the Audi.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/a80269b6-0b83-4538-bd9d-3f035ce7b497.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/a80269b6-0b83-4538-bd9d-3f035ce7b497.jpg.html)

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps6801f909.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps6801f909.jpg.html)

Tweak
10-29-2013, 12:49 PM
Nice looking Audi, welcome to the forum Eric!

We have so many options available to us now.

I would get a RRM ECU mod, I have Bilstein coils and they are awesome, add the rear torsion bar and front braces from RRM and it is amazing to drive. I also have the RRM engine cover and intake. There are many companies out there with many parts but I have these parts personally, got a great deal on them so I can't compare to other offerings but I am happy with the items I have installed. I also snagged a Madness gopedal and it also works really well. One of the vendors here is planning to dyno with several different piggyback modules so that may help some decide which they prefer to buy, keep an eye out for this in the next few weeks (I think it is likely in the next few weeks).

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 01:05 PM
Thanks Tweak. Have you done exhaust yet? I want to find a company that sells DP and exhaust in one package. That way Im not dealing with fitment issues. That and a tune, and I should be off to a good start.

Tweak
10-29-2013, 01:16 PM
Thanks Tweak. Have you done exhaust yet? I want to find a company that sells DP and exhaust in one package. That way Im not dealing with fitment issues. That and a tune, and I should be off to a good start.

Tork is working on the tune and will have something out there in about 2 more weeks. I have not yet touched the exhaust, was supposed to get a custom exhaust but the guy is either always busy or doesn't really followup with me on scheduling something. Again there are many companies out there with items available but I think RRM and EC are two that will put together a "recipe" and can offer a downpipe and exhaust.

RRM = Road Race Motorsports (Rob)

EC = Eurocompulsion (Chris)

Both are vendors here, you can also checkout Norcal SS (Tony) and 500 Madness (Boris) but I have not personally dealt with them in the same capacity, both though have been willing to help and offer suggestions and advice so it comes down to brand and price you wish to be at with what each offers.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 01:42 PM
Just checked them out. Looks like Ill be sourcing a turbo back exhaust and a tune. Gotta find someone to sell me both at once.

Abarth Five O
10-29-2013, 01:48 PM
If you have the bucks and are willing to spend in excess of 3Gs for a full exhaust system, Super Sprint has an excellent turbo back exhaust system.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 01:53 PM
Wow, thats stupid money. Im sure I could piece together something for around a grand. And TBH, Ive seen/worked with Super Sprint stuff. If its anything like Ive seen, its probably not worth the money.

djhace
10-29-2013, 02:13 PM
why even touch the "exhaust system" it's pretty dope as it is.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 02:35 PM
I kind of agree. But Knowing how restrictive OEM downpipes are, there should be at least some spool up to gain from a bigger DP. So you guys thing I should be looking at DP and a tune?

Oh, Word?
10-29-2013, 02:42 PM
Do it, I've owned 5 VW and the switch is worth it. I've only had it two weeks but I've loved every second of it. I mostly had mk2 but my mk4 gli was a money pit like your TT. As for mods I'd just throw an intake and maybe a tune for now the exhaust aside from the dp is very good stock and in sport mode the car is faster than you'd expect for the hp they claim. My ultimate goal for my car as far as performance is a dp, axle back, diverter valve, fmic and then a tune, most likely rrm because tork can only flash it if you send them the ecu and that's not an option for most of us.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 02:50 PM
Cool, thanks. What kind of diverter valve do they use? Ive got a few tricks up my sleeve from the VW/Audi world that will be a great DV. As long as its not electronic in these cars.

Heres a video clip of it. It will hold as much pressure as you can throw at it with zero leaks. By FAR the fastest DV I know of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eegS0EObSIE

Oh, Word?
10-29-2013, 02:56 PM
Forge makes a really nice bolt on that sounds good or if you wanna be cheap they make an atmospheric adapter for like $80. I think the diverter is $220 or so. Other companies make blow off valves but idk what's involved with putting those on.

ksig421
10-29-2013, 02:59 PM
here is a video I made awhile back of what the forge bovp sounds like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh9znbHHIA

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 03:03 PM
The valve I use on the TT is actually from an EVO. Its been modified for higher preload. Just adding the DV will bring your boost up a little. Simply because all others (Forge included) leak.

Oh, Word?
10-29-2013, 03:28 PM
People said that about the greddy I had on my srt, and yea when sitting at idle it would leak out the second it was under any type of pressure it would close. I boost leaked that car constantly and that was never an issue.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 03:35 PM
People said that about the greddy I had on my srt, and yea when sitting at idle it would leak out the second it was under any type of pressure it would close. I boost leaked that car constantly and that was never an issue.

I would try to use the EVo valve again if possible. ITs an amazing valve. Also you cant really trust a pressure test on the DV when there is no vac applied to the inlet port. The TT has been a major pain in the ass. I consider myself to be pretty well experienced with chasing leaks. Out of necessity of course.

Oh, Word?
10-29-2013, 03:43 PM
Haha my gli was a 24v so when **** broke it cost insane amounts of money.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 03:58 PM
As she was when I got her ( still managed to get coilovers on before my first pic lol )
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps66d49220.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps66d49220.jpg.html)
A little protection..
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps8fe4c329.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps8fe4c329.jpg.html)
A3 A/C vents(with liquidTT)
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/t003.jpg
carbon fiber C-frames
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/t580.jpg
custom made shift knob/leather shift boot/painted shift ring
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/t004.jpg
grip tape on the pedals
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/t006.jpg
iPhone mount in the visor
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/vig
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AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 03:59 PM
Drumb roll please....
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/sc03217.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/sc03219.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/sc03220.jpg
it was alot of work, but you would never know they didnt come with the car. they match the TTs interior perfectly! If anyone is interested in doing this, you must have patients! And yes, I retain all functions of the vent.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/7acaf899.jpg
http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/4rings.jpg
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http://www.fotolode.com/images/warranty225cpe/visor.jpg
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/4f844a7d.jpg
Forge WG is in, turbo is back on:thumbup:
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/857efc7e.jpg

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 04:00 PM
And one of the old rods out.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/48acd508.jpg
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A whole gang of sh|t for a boost gauge :what:
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http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/0B957DBE-94FF-417D-B482-CC2B32422F09-3473-000003A97E90D27F.jpg

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 04:01 PM
Fork lifts kick ass.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/9F5F0CCA-7F59-44AE-B90A-805357241790-3473-000003A9896F3491.jpg
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AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 04:01 PM
Started cutting this thing down to make a bracket.
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AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 04:03 PM
Dirty:
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-20.jpg
Clean:
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-21.jpg
Next step, alchol bath & primer
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-39.jpg
One coat of primer
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-31.jpg
2nd coat
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-32.jpg
1st coat of black
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-37.jpg
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-36.jpg
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-35.jpg
Decided to do the rings and quattro badge while I was there.
(1st coat of primer)
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-29.jpg
Then came this stuff. Super impressed with how this paint looks. Looks like brushed aluminum.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-28.jpg
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-27.jpg
I added a very lite dusting of this stuff. It's a very dull clear with tiny little flecks that look like the light reflecting off of brushed aluminum. It's VERY subtle, and only really visible in the right light.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-26.jpg
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Finally found a station that carries E85.
A little pricey for e85
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-49.jpg
Did get a decent 3rd gear pull. I think the hp number should be a little higher considering the way it flatlined. Pretty sure there's a setting on the liquid TT for applications over 300bhp.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-48.jpg
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Update time: The exhaust project went really well. Looks much better tucked. On a side note, I just ordered a new red spring for my Forge actuator. It seems the FT actuator isnt up to the task (boost is a little inconsistent, and I think the spring cant hold under boost). Im sure the red one will work better than the FT because the pressure is going to be where I want it without having to add springs or over crank the adjustment rod. I plan on doing it this weekend. I hate removing the damn actuator. Such a suck ass job.\
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-52.jpg
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Notice how low it sits before:
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-54.jpg
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AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 04:03 PM
Starting to tuck up and out of the way nicely:thumbup:
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Kind of a lot of work. But in my opinion worth it. Here's a shot of what it looked like after round 1 of this.
Before:
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/E28AEB6A-1E43-46CF-9BAB-137DF3CCB3D4-176-0000000F853AAAF5.jpg
And after today's work:
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And my copilot
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null-74.jpg
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zpsdd8cfc31.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zpsdd8cfc31.jpg.html)
Took a shot at one of my fishing spots. This will probably my last photo with this wheel color.
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps521a5080.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps521a5080.jpg.html)
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zpsbd252efd.jpg
Also got a chance to tuck my injector wires/ harness. A before and after pic..
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zpsd099ee9f.jpg
A little cosmetic eye surgery..
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps2b541be2.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps2b541be2.jpg.html)
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zpsed0e9f6d.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zpsed0e9f6d.jpg.html)
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps03d36f64.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps03d36f64.jpg.html)
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zpsa2f146a4.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zpsa2f146a4.jpg.html)
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps469de412.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps469de412.jpg.html)
As she sits right now..
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps141037ae.jpg (http://s411.photobucket.com/user/Eskougor/media/null_zps141037ae.jpg.html)

MAZ
10-29-2013, 04:36 PM
Love the TT Man!

Yeay for Audi Porn!

My last build: (since sold) :(
2.8'd, Tial 605'd, Aquamist'd 505whp
http://motorgeek.com/gallery/d/109122-2/Front00082.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=594095f2b0b6abacf0f1d d12eb182f4d
http://motorgeek.com/gallery/d/109134-2/Tial_605_Stand_4.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=594095f2b0b6aba cf0f1dd12eb182f4d
http://motorgeek.com/gallery/d/100908-2/2010-10-19_16-56-09_25.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=594095f2b0b6abacf0f1dd12eb 182f4d

The Red Monster: (Currently in hibernation)
AAN 20vT Swap, 3071'd, 034 Magic
http://motorgeek.com/gallery/d/91561-2/IMG_2018.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=594095f2b0b6abacf0f1dd1 2eb182f4d
(intercooler from a Isuzu NPR box truck, lol)

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 04:39 PM
Nice!! the V6T ?

Oh, Word?
10-29-2013, 06:23 PM
That b5 s4, ouuuffffffff. I love the hell out of those cars but owning one is like taking all your money out of the bank and setting it on fire. My friend has a nagaro blue k04 s4 and it's a beast one of the few cars I've been in that's scared me, doing pulls with a tial s4 while my friends car was on his race file and open dumps. It's crazy how the pull and pull and pull and never really run out of breath.

Another one of my friends just got rid of his anni gli that he did a k04 off the tt225. When that car was running right it was pretty quick but he could never really find someone to tune it great so he lost interest and sold it. I can't wait until people start figuring out how to put some bigger turbos on these. I'd love to see a 50 trim but idk how they'd fit it in there. At some point though it looses its fun on the street my full bolt on srt4 was even a handful at times and that was around 300 wheel and 330-350 torque. Couldn't imagine one of these little fiats with 275-300 torque it'd be an absolute monster.

AudiGuy
10-29-2013, 11:23 PM
Yeah turbos can make a lot of power! The abarth modding is still a little new. It's going to be interesting to see how things unfold. The VW/Audi scene has been around for a long time. I'm hoping that I can carry over some of the things I've learned from countless hours of troubleshooting and banging my head. With such an inexpensive car, the platform should be very popular. I'll hear back from the dealership tomorrow. I've got a black one, a red one, and a white one (with pink wheels and abarth stripe). I'm thinking my first mod will be ECU tune and a sprint booster.. And if I get the white one, I'll be plastidip ping the wheels gold until I can replace themfingersx

MAZ
10-30-2013, 09:21 AM
That b5 s4, ouuuffffffff. I love the hell out of those cars but owning one is like taking all your money out of the bank and setting it on fire.
Pretty much. The 605 car was retardedly fast, (like hang with 750cc's and lambos fast) when it was running right, lol. Stoopid expensive car to maintain. Wacky expensive and elusive problems. Nearly impossible to DD and depend on.


It's crazy how the pull and pull and pull and never really run out of breath.
Yea the TiAL 605's are nuts, they could boost past redline. Held 30-32 psi all the way up to 7k. The TiAL770 kit is just is a different league altogether, 42 psi to redline, lol.

Thanks dude!

AudiGuy
10-30-2013, 09:31 AM
The hybrid turbo in the TT is pretty impressive. 30+ psi on e85 is a blast. Till something breaksangryred

AudiGuy
11-01-2013, 09:40 AM
Well, hit a bit of a snag. Took the TT to Carmax last night on the way home from work. They offered me $4500 :jaw:

So it looks like Im going to have to sell it privately. I was hoping I could sell off my mods and fund some upgrades for the Abarth. But it looks like Im going to sell it on autotrader or ebay. Theres no way in hell Im letting it go for less than 11K.


Stay tuned

steven4264
11-01-2013, 08:39 PM
My buddy traded his Miata in to Carmax and I did the same :jaw: when he told me they only gave him $1000... I would have bought it for a track car for that

Oh, Word?
11-02-2013, 10:14 PM
Screw carmax. They offer absurdly low buy out prices, like insultingly low. My friend brought his 2011 fully loaded jetta 2.5 with 30,xxx that was mint and they offered him 11. But when they get a car like that at 11 they run it through the wash bay and throw it on the lot for 17k and then refuse to haggle. It really helps to shop around my s2k was an 05 with 89k on it, books for 10-13 trade in with good condition. Mine had some acorn dings and was on coils so I expected on the low end. VW dealer offered me 8.5 for it and I walked out immediately and they called me constantly and I never went answered or went back. Fiat looked at it ran a car fax saw it had a fender bender pre me owning it offered me 10. Said I owed 12 and they came up to 12 on the spot. Then when it came down to me getting into the payments I wanted they ended up giving me 13,900 for it. It's tough with cars that have been messed with. You wanna have a good laugh google "harlequin jetta" and mine was the mk4 that comes up. I built and painted it like that on a dare from my friends, they said I wouldn't and boy did I prove them wrong. I must have gone to a dozen places before I found someone that would even consider making me an offer on it.

AudiGuy
11-03-2013, 12:18 AM
That's pretty funny. I took it to Carmax because I thought my buddy that works there was going to do the appraisal. I was wrong. Waisted my time and was given an insult of an offer that was less than half of my trade in value. Live and learn I guess. Spent some time detailing the TT today, and I feel stupid for even contemplating getting rid of it. It's rare to have such a beast that looks/drives like a million bucks, but isnt worth the sum of its parts.

AudiGuy
11-03-2013, 10:28 AM
So it looks like I might have to keep the TT for now, and try to sell it locally. I happened to buy a new exhaust and valance on Friday.

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp199/Eskougor/null_zps62c8bf55.jpg

AudiGuy
01-24-2014, 11:15 AM
Hey guys. Thought I would update this thread. Im about to start taking off my mods in preparation for selling the TT. But I still havent even driven an Abarth. I was hoping there might be someone in my area that could take me for a ride. The dealership is pretty far away from where I live. So maybe one of you guys is local to me? Im in the West Palm to Boca area of south Florida. Id be willing to buy someone a beer in exchange for some driver insight.

djhace
01-24-2014, 09:56 PM
this might be the closest.
http://www.fiatusaofwestpalmbeach.com/new-inventory/index.htm?SByear=clear&SBmake=clear&SBmodel=500&SBtrim=Abarth&SBbodystyle=clear&SBprice=clear&SBlinkedAccountId=arrigododge
dude, they have some abarth's with $3600 discounts. that's just MADNESS!

Rags747
01-25-2014, 08:17 AM
I know Rick Case Fiat in Fla is pretty big, not sure what their discounts are though. Think u can do better than $3600 off though.

AudiGuy
01-25-2014, 11:08 AM
this might be the closest.
http://www.fiatusaofwestpalmbeach.com/new-inventory/index.htm?SByear=clear&SBmake=clear&SBmodel=500&SBtrim=Abarth&SBbodystyle=clear&SBprice=clear&SBlinkedAccountId=arrigododge
dude, they have some abarth's with $3600 discounts. that's just MADNESS!
Just checked them out. Might have to go up there and take a look at what they have. Thanks for the link.


I know Rick Case Fiat in Fla is pretty big, not sure what their discounts are though. Think u can do better than $3600 off though.
Yeah, we know Rick personally (he does business with my wife's company). Working on a quote right now.

AudiGuy
01-25-2014, 11:31 AM
Just got off the phone with Rick. They are offering me a $4500 dollar rebate on a new 2013 Grigio Abarth. I'm trying to decide if I want to trade in the Audi (and lose 3k), or try to sell the Audi privately. I'm thinking I might just start pulling mods off of the TT and sell them for Abarth mods.. Hmmm..

ScorpionSkins.com
01-25-2014, 11:40 AM
Private sale is always better of course, so long as the market exists to sell it for the price you're asking. Are there any tax incentives on trade-ins in the U.S.? Here in Canada you are discounted the tax amount you paid on the older vehicle off the new vehicles tax amount if it's a direct trade.

Wait it out if you have the patience. Good luck with everything if you decide to proceed, and thanks for sharing all the interesting photos/details regarding your Audi!

Mike S
01-25-2014, 01:36 PM
Rick is a real car guy and I will probably buy my next Fiat from him.

He was one of very few dealers selected that is NOT a Chrysler dealer to sell the Fiat and Alfa brands. He does advertise while the other dealers sit on their hands and wait for people to walk in the door. He was a Fiat dealer in the 70's.

AudiGuy
01-26-2014, 10:56 AM
Update: got an appointment at rick case this afternoon. Kind of a time sensitive situation. My fiancÚ and I are waiting to hear back about an offer we've made on a house. We are going back and forth with offers and counter offers. I've been advised buy our mortgage guy not to sign the car loan until the mortgage goes through. So although I'm ready, I'm in a holding pattern. I spent yesterday taking parts off the TT, so there's no turning back now. Grigio rocket is waiting for me.

ophidia31
01-26-2014, 12:14 PM
Just some information from me about people and their experience driving an abarth. One friend is basically a diehard vag guy. All he talks about. He had a mkiv gti with all kinds of mods done to it. Sold it because of issues and got a mkvi gli. He has the unitronic intake/stage 2 tune and turbo back eurojet exhaust and he has a **** eating grin everytime he gets out of my car after driving it. Told him to buy the rosso with white wheels/trim thats for sale locally. If he didnt have so much left to pay off on his car he probably would have. My other friend stopped at work yesterday. He had a mkv rabbit, then a mkiii vr swap jetta and lastly a 20th? mkiv gti. He recently got a 04 wrx sti clone. He told me he he test drve the rosso abarth as well and he should have got it instead but he already had money down on the subaru. So if you didnt test drive it yet, you have nothing to worry about. :burnout:

AudiGuy
01-27-2014, 09:42 AM
Just some information from me about people and their experience driving an abarth. One friend is basically a diehard vag guy. All he talks about. He had a mkiv gti with all kinds of mods done to it. Sold it because of issues and got a mkvi gli. He has the unitronic intake/stage 2 tune and turbo back eurojet exhaust and he has a **** eating grin everytime he gets out of my car after driving it. Told him to buy the rosso with white wheels/trim thats for sale locally. If he didnt have so much left to pay off on his car he probably would have. My other friend stopped at work yesterday. He had a mkv rabbit, then a mkiii vr swap jetta and lastly a 20th? mkiv gti. He recently got a 04 wrx sti clone. He told me he he test drve the rosso abarth as well and he should have got it instead but he already had money down on the subaru. So if you didnt test drive it yet, you have nothing to worry about. :burnout:

Thats funny. Thanks for the reassurance. It looks like after I sell all the parts I can pull, Ill have enough money to do some suspension (coils) and an ECU upgrade. Im open to suggestions. But my main priorities will be getting the ride height right, and giving it a good tune (not sure who to go with yet). Also if I can find coils that are a good height, I can just get coils instead of coilovers. But Im not very familiar with what is what, and whos who on in the Fiat aftermarket. If I can do that, Ill probably get a go-pedal as well. If you guys see any flaws in my plan or think I should go a different route, let me know. All input is appreciated.

ScorpionSkins.com
01-27-2014, 04:19 PM
Thats funny. Thanks for the reassurance. It looks like after I sell all the parts I can pull, Ill have enough money to do some suspension (coils) and an ECU upgrade. Im open to suggestions. But my main priorities will be getting the ride height right, and giving it a good tune (not sure who to go with yet). Also if I can find coils that are a good height, I can just get coils instead of coilovers. But Im not very familiar with what is what, and whos who on in the Fiat aftermarket. If I can do that, Ill probably get a go-pedal as well. If you guys see any flaws in my plan or think I should go a different route, let me know. All input is appreciated.

I have a different approach to mods, I like to start off small and move up from there. My initial priorities are to improve on the original vehicle character without too drastically altering the initial formula. It allows for the opportunity to enjoy the transformation gradually.

To start, I installed a short shift adapter on my vehicle and a rear torsion bar. I'm tremendously satisfied with both modifications. I'm loosely following this order:


Exterior/Interior visual customization
Stock component function improvement/replacement
Intake/Intercooler/heat management
Exhaust mods
Suspension & brakes
ECU/Pedal mods


I found this method always leaves for something more to be desired and altered. Hitting the max potential of the vehicle immediately seems like fun, but I'd rather allow the vehicle to grow with me. Anyways, I don't know if you'll find any of that of any particular use, but that's how I'd recommend going about it. Everyone has their preference.

shadowshaggy
01-27-2014, 04:23 PM
Woo more Grigio rockets :) Be sure to start a build thread when you pickup the car, we'll spend all your money for you ;)

AudiGuy
01-27-2014, 04:33 PM
I have a different approach to mods, I like to start off small and move up from there. My initial priorities are to improve on the original vehicle character without too drastically altering the initial formula. It allows for the opportunity to enjoy the transformation gradually.

To start, I installed a short shift adapter on my vehicle and a rear torsion bar. I'm tremendously satisfied with both modifications. I'm loosely following this order:


Exterior/Interior visual customization
Stock component function improvement/replacement
Intake/Intercooler/heat management
Exhaust mods
Suspension & brakes
ECU/Pedal mods


I found this method always leaves for something more to be desired and altered. Hitting the max potential of the vehicle immediately seems like fun, but I'd rather allow the vehicle to grow with me. Anyways, I don't know if you'll find any of that of any particular use, but that's how I'd recommend going about it. Everyone has their preference.

Lol, yeah Im completely the opposite. Ill buy it, then get it chipped and on coilovers, then autocross it the 1st or second weekend I own it.


Woo more Grigio rockets :) Be sure to start a build thread when you pickup the car, we'll spend all your money for you ;)

Oh yeah, will DEFINITELY make a build thread. Wouldnt have it any other way.
I just need to figure out which ECU, pedal, and coils to go with. I dont know enough about the platform yet to know who makes the best of what.

nyc eng
01-27-2014, 05:33 PM
I still miss my MK1 TT but you won't regret the switch. My TT was a love hate relationship. Still to this day it was one of the most beloved cars I owned. If it wasn't for all the issues I had I would still have it. Eventually I had to part ways, I got sick of the CEL's, boost issues, electrical gremlins, gas gauge problems, tuning issues, unreliability, coilover issues..

The Abarth lacks the AWD, but it has the same go-kart feel that I remember the TT had. It's tossable, light, nimble, fun and actually has a decent amount of lowend grunt. I don't know which turbo you have but I remember being so impressed by how responsive the Abarth was after my first drive. The interior isn't as nice as the TT's but it's comfortable and lets be honest, there aren't many cars with an interior as nice as the MK1 TT. Now you have my missing my TT again.

Good luck, I'll be interested to hear what you think.

9466

AudiGuy
01-27-2014, 06:28 PM
I still miss my MK1 TT but you won't regret the switch. My TT was a love hate relationship. Still to this day it was one of the most beloved cars I owned. If it wasn't for all the issues I had I would still have it. Eventually I had to part ways, I got sick of the CEL's, boost issues, electrical gremlins, gas gauge problems, tuning issues, unreliability, coilover issues..

The Abarth lacks the AWD, but it has the same go-kart feel that I remember the TT had. It's tossable, light, nimble, fun and actually has a decent amount of lowend grunt. I don't know which turbo you have but I remember being so impressed by how responsive the Abarth was after my first drive. The interior isn't as nice as the TT's but it's comfortable and lets be honest, there aren't many cars with an interior as nice as the MK1 TT. Now you have my missing my TT again.

Good luck, I'll be interested to hear what you think.

9466

Thanks man. I'm supposed to be picking it up tomorrow. The TT has been a love-hate relationship for sure. Complete and total pain in the ass. I have replaced EVERYTHING in this damn car. It just got to be too much. I don't even like driving the TT more than around local streets because I can't count on it. I woke up this morning and started posting all the TT parts in the classifieds. By noon I had over $900 to go towards the abarth in my paypal account. I still have a few grand worth of parts that will likely get scooped up before the week is over.

TheGonz
01-27-2014, 09:57 PM
..Complete and total pain in the ass. I have replaced EVERYTHING in this damn car. It just got to be too much...

I hear you. I had three VAG products.

You'd think I'd have learned after the first time, but no I didn't.

I refused to learn. There was always some hope in me that next time, it would be better. The psychiatrists call it "battered wife syndrome."

It never got better. Sure, VW/Audi had its sweet moments, especially when the kids were around, but...

My last one was getting rebuilt piece-by-piece since the day it was new.

I actually don't mind working on cars at all. I kind of enjoy it, in fact. I bought VAG-COM and everything.

But I like working on cars on my own terms. I hate it when it's Sunday afternoon and I have to fix a car so someone can get to work in 16 hours. Especially when it's some B.S. repair I've never had to do on any other car. Like plastic pieces inside the transmission. Plastic transmission pieces that would have cost VW/Audi an extra $0.17 to do in metal, except they were relying on guys like you and I to subsidize the Bugatti Veyron so they could sell it to billionaires at a loss.

Next time you see a Bugatti Veyron, go ahead — feel free to open up the door and take a seat. Feel the seats wrapping around you. Smell the leather.

Guys like you and I paid for that. We paid for it when we bought our Jettas, Golfs and A4s. We paid for it when we visited the parts counter. We paid for it when we shouted obscenities towards the heavens, wondering why oh why we were so f***ing dumb to fall for this stuff three times!

We paid for it, you and I. Somewhere on every Veyron is a part you and I paid for.

It just finally got to me.

I swore off VAG products for life.

It still feels like a hollow victory. I still feel sodomized by Ferdinand PiŰch. Nothing will ever ease that pain.

BecauseRacecar
01-27-2014, 10:20 PM
Damn that post was great :D

My best friend back home is an APR race tech... so I've heard his stories about coil packs and crack pipes... but plastic transmission bits is pretty wild!

This guy has an S4, TTs, R32, VR6 Jetta, Mk1 GTi... loves them, but always fixing something or other.
Now I get it. I always thought he just had bad luck...

AudiGuy
01-27-2014, 11:20 PM
Yeah, I knew I wanted a TT the first time I saw one. I promised myself that one day I would have one. Well, I had one alright. From 2008-present I've spent WAY too much money in this damn car. It's one thing to piss your money away on performance mods, but most of the time you can't even do that. Because your busy buying/replacing broken junk that should never have gone on a car. Take the best engineers in the world, then have them put together the most mindless **** you could possibly imagine. I just hope that the Abarth is built to be more reliable. Any know issues yet with the abarth? Other than terrible crash test ratings?

ScorpionSkins.com
01-27-2014, 11:31 PM
Any know issues yet with the abarth? Other than terrible crash test ratings?

Engine seems fairly reliable so far. There's been some quality issues (exterior paint flaking around emblems, easily scuffed hard plastic interior panels). The base model Fiat 500s have had some clutch issues so far, but the Abarth has a different assembly. There are some minor nuisances, such as suspension noise due to jounce bumpers (TSB has already been released). A select group of vehicles have had rear main seal leaks. Coolant issues are another one to keep an eye on, but nothing too widespread so far.

That's all that comes to mind at the moment. Am I missing anything?

AudiGuy
01-27-2014, 11:41 PM
Engine seems fairly reliable so far. There's been some quality issues (exterior paint flaking around emblems, easily scuffed hard plastic interior panels). The base model Fiat 500s have had some clutch issues so far, but the Abarth has a different assembly. There are some minor nuisances, such as suspension noise due to jounce bumpers (TSB has already been released). A select group of vehicles have had rear main seal leaks. Coolant issues are another one to keep an eye on, but nothing too widespread so far.
That's all that comes to mind at the moment. Am I missing anything?
Thanks. That's what I needed to know.

TheGonz
01-27-2014, 11:53 PM
Yeah, I knew I wanted a TT the first time I saw one. I promised myself that one day I would have one. Well, I had one alright. From 2008-present I've spent WAY too much money in this damn car. It's one thing to piss your money away on performance mods, but most of the time you can't even do that. Because your busy buying/replacing broken junk that should never have gone on a car. Take the best engineers in the world, then have them put together the most mindless **** you could possibly imagine. I just hope that the Abarth is built to be more reliable. Any know issues yet with the abarth? Other than terrible crash test ratings?

The insurance companies will always invent some crash test every car will fail. Once the manufacturers figure out how to beat the current crash tests, the insurers will invent another one, just as statistically unlikely as the others.

The cars will fail. People will be concerned.

It's like an evolutionary arms race: Car safety versus insurance premiums. It's a game of one-upmanship. Ultimately, the underwriters win because they decide what the standards are.

When I was a baby in the 70s, I used to ride in an egg crate in the back seat of my dad's Plymouth Road Runner. Having survived such neglect, I feel certain I can drive my Abarth from point A to point B in relative safety.

I've earned it, I think.

I can't speak to the Abarth's long term reliability. I have had mine for three weeks, and have 1,000 miles on it.

I can say that I did not purchase it for safety. I wanted a "get back to the basics" car. A car that was pure in its soul. A car that said what it did, and did what it said. A car that sounded like the pits o' hell had opened up upon the fair streets of Columbia, Missouri. A car that put fear in the hearts of the timid.

It has done those things well.

It has not had any problems.

I like my new car. It's far less civilized than my wife's Prius, and I like it like that.

It's honest. It acts like a champion.

By 1,000 miles, my Golf was already acquainting itself with its second home, the repair shop of the VW dealer. My Fiat has not yet once wanted to visit its studio. All is well.

nyc eng
01-28-2014, 12:02 AM
Yeah, I knew I wanted a TT the first time I saw one. I promised myself that one day I would have one. Well, I had one alright. From 2008-present I've spent WAY too much money in this damn car. It's one thing to piss your money away on performance mods, but most of the time you can't even do that. Because your busy buying/replacing broken junk that should never have gone on a car. Take the best engineers in the world, then have them put together the most mindless **** you could possibly imagine. I just hope that the Abarth is built to be more reliable. Any know issues yet with the abarth? Other than terrible crash test ratings?

Replacing coilpacks was a waste of money but at least it was easy!

Yep, the first time I saw a TT, I needed one! I honestly think Audis aren't meant to be modded. I've had others, left them stock and never had a problem. My Corvette with 715hp was shockingly reliable and the best part of all was that I used the stock TT DV..lol.. I had about 50 passes with it in 700hp + and always drove home from the track with slicks. I was stranded twice in the Z06, broke the mainshaft in the tranny while doing some 60mph pulls and a valve spring. Other than that, no issues..


I have my concerns about the Abarth being mod friendly so the only thing I might do is an Alcantara wrapped wheel & knob. After the TT, I decided not to mod my daily drivers, simply because I don't like wrenching to get somewhere.

As far as my Abarths reliability.. I have over 28,500 miles in 17 months and the only issues I've had were a few check engine lights which I attribute to Costco gas.

BecauseRacecar
01-28-2014, 01:48 AM
[...]Any know issues yet with the abarth? Other than terrible crash test ratings?
Occasionally an Abarth will have gearbox issues, mainly shifting into first gear. It's apparent quite soon after getting the car (mine was obvious after owning it for a week).
Fixes, in order of dealer preference: Flush gearbox oil, check shifter adjustment, check clutch, remove trans and lube/check splines, and (last) new C510 gearbox.

For me, the step before last seems to have done the trick.

Aside from that, everything that "ScorpionSkins. com" said.

Overall not many issues. Great cars to drive. 50k warranty is nice.

AudiGuy
01-28-2014, 09:45 AM
Yeah, Im not going to get to crazy with this one. Im going to keep it simple. Some nice performance mods, but nothing that cant be undone. Im a little concerned about voiding my warranty with aftermarket mods. But I know my rights as a consumer.

For anyone that isnt familiar with this, its a good read. Its also a way to keep yourself from getting pushed around by car companies. Ask me how I know? lol, or maybe I should say, "Ask Audi how I know" :boink:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMagnuso n%25E2%2580%2593Moss_Warranty_Act&ei=AbTnUsbjFcnfkgfO3IGgDQ&usg=AFQjCNFZJKsx1DbIIacB73Xu1IVHRbpHdQ&sig2=b-Sst_bScS2t4GAVPdIamw&bvm=bv.59930103,d.eW0