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SoCal
09-23-2013, 09:41 PM
As a BMW owner, I like the quiet "click" when I remotely lock my car. I was surprised at the horn beep on my new 500E. I called customer service, and they said there was currently no option to turn it off. Since adding this feature would not hurt anyone who likes the horn beep, I'm hoping we can get some support for this option on the 500E forum. Please chime in softly... My next door neighbors would appreciate silent locking when I arrive late at night!

(And don't we like it that our electric car is quiet?!)

Felnus
09-23-2013, 09:51 PM
Lock the door with the key. No beep. However, the alarm system isn't armed either.

Andree
09-23-2013, 10:18 PM
I'm with you on that one. I want silent arming. I'm in apartments. I'm sure everyone would appreciate silent arming. I, myself wondered who was honking in the middle of the night, only to realize it's someone else with a honking arming system for their vehicle.

luckymoi
09-23-2013, 11:38 PM
Requested this two yes ago... they ain't listening.

ABARTH TAMER
09-24-2013, 07:51 AM
Install an air horn. My Abarth now sounds more Italian than Mexican. Also no beep when locking. Good ones from Fiamm or Hella. I went with Hella, they have a nice compact unit. Compact compressor mounts near battery, horns mount under left front fender liner.

Used it yesterday on So. Cal freeway when someone on their phone drifted on to my lane.

Robert Nixon
09-24-2013, 09:42 AM
My guess is that a majority of owners like the beep just so they know that it's locked as they walk away. If there is a fuse just for the horn you could probably just pull it out.

chrisnov500
09-24-2013, 01:16 PM
you can lock the doors and set the alarm with silent.
while driver side door open, press lock button twice (you will see the car blinks four times) and shut the door.
you will get final and last blink on the car.

if you press the lock button too fast, car will honk so try multiple times if you get the honk.

I use this method when I come home late at night, its good method if you want the silent lock.

hope this helps!

rcboosted
09-24-2013, 05:42 PM
you can lock the doors and set the alarm with silent.
while driver side door open, press lock button twice (you will see the car blinks four times) and shut the door.
you will get final and last blink on the car.

if you press the lock button too fast, car will honk so try multiple times if you get the honk.

I use this method when I come home late at night, its good method if you want the silent lock.

hope this helps!

I have yet to take delivery of my 500e, but my other car locks silently. If I hit the remote to lock twice in quick succession, it'll honk the horn to let me know it's locked. Is this not the case with the 500e and it honks every time? That's rather annoying, I'll have to try the open door locking method when I get mine.

cmj912
09-29-2013, 07:39 PM
you can lock the doors and set the alarm with silent.
while driver side door open, press lock button twice (you will see the car blinks four times) and shut the door.
you will get final and last blink on the car.

if you press the lock button too fast, car will honk so try multiple times if you get the honk.

I use this method when I come home late at night, its good method if you want the silent lock.

hope this helps!

i tried this tonight. pressed the lock button on the fob twice and then shut the door. no beep, door locked.

but since i am alone, i decided to check and see if the alarm was set. so the second time, i pressed it twice and then sat in the passenger seat and shut the door. locked doors. no beep.

but when i pulled the handle i would have expected that if the alarm were set, it would go off. which it did not.

so it appears that at least on my car you can get silent lock, but no alarm.

rcboosted
09-30-2013, 01:02 AM
i tried this tonight. pressed the lock button on the fob twice and then shut the door. no beep, door locked.

but since i am alone, i decided to check and see if the alarm was set. so the second time, i pressed it twice and then sat in the passenger seat and shut the door. locked doors. no beep.

but when i pulled the handle i would have expected that if the alarm were set, it would go off. which it did not.

so it appears that at least on my car you can get silent lock, but no alarm.


Did you test: sit in car, close door, lock with remote, car beeps, then try opening the door? Also, some cars have a delay after you armed it. It won't arm the alarm immediately after you pressed the button.

cmj912
09-30-2013, 11:24 AM
Did you test: sit in car, close door, lock with remote, car beeps, then try opening the door? Also, some cars have a delay after you armed it. It won't arm the alarm immediately after you pressed the button.

Oh yes. That one I've experienced a few times. :)

Ryephile
09-30-2013, 04:44 PM
I really wish they'd offer a firmware update for the dashboard to turn off the locking horn beep. The lights flashing is bad enough. :(

rcboosted
10-08-2013, 01:32 AM
you can lock the doors and set the alarm with silent.
while driver side door open, press lock button twice (you will see the car blinks four times) and shut the door.
you will get final and last blink on the car.

if you press the lock button too fast, car will honk so try multiple times if you get the honk.

I use this method when I come home late at night, its good method if you want the silent lock.

hope this helps!

This didn't work for me. How quick do I press lock the 2nd time? I did it in quick succession. As soon I as close the door, it honks.

cmj912
10-15-2013, 09:47 AM
This didn't work for me. How quick do I press lock the 2nd time? I did it in quick succession. As soon I as close the door, it honks.

I did "one mississippi, two mississippi"...pedantic and methodical. Then shut the door. No honk. However, as I'd stated it did not set the alarm.

nathan_h
10-27-2013, 01:17 AM
I guess not having the beep may be worth locking it manually without the alarm getting set, just to keep the neighbors happy. Their bedroom is directly next to my parking spot. signwerd

ophidia31
11-04-2013, 11:31 AM
Dang, was hoping this worked. Like cmj stated, locks with no horn but no alarm arm either. :dispirited: Im a very paranoid person having a car almost broken into once before, so Ill deal with the horn honk to have the alarm still activate. Hopefully they come up with an update to be able to turn it off and still arm the system.

jon2121
11-14-2013, 12:53 PM
I have a 2012 500 pop. Just helped my mother get a 2013 500 pop. Her alarm has one beep on arm and no beeps on disarm. Started checking and got the right answer from the third party alarm installer at Fiat service. It seems that all Phoenix Fiats have a third party alarm system. I imagine many other Fiats around the country have the same system.

The control is under the dash, right above your left knee. It looks like a very small indicator light. There is a button underneath. He gave me a manual:
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500eee
11-15-2013, 01:49 AM
I don't think us California 500e's have what you are describing (see attached photo of the left underside the dash on my car). I wish we did- that horn drives me CRAZY every time I have to lock the car.

There must be someone on this forum that can figure out how to fix this stupid feature, wether it be through a hidden setting in the computer system or a physical fix! Help! :cussing:

8482

jon2121
11-15-2013, 03:43 AM
My button is located where the round silver object is in your picture: 8486

jennburr
11-15-2013, 11:02 AM
I have a 2012 500 pop and it doesn't beep. I have had her about 4 months now.... odd I would like the beep I have to stop and look to be sure that my doors locked due to not having a beep.

trevc
11-15-2013, 12:07 PM
It doesn't beep because you don't have an alarm. It is not standard (or a factory option) on the pop models.

I have a 2012 500 pop and it doesn't beep. I have had her about 4 months now.... odd I would like the beep I have to stop and look to be sure that my doors locked due to not having a beep.

OrangePeel
12-11-2013, 01:21 AM
Count me in for another eOwner that would prefer a no-honk option. I may pull the fuse but that is dangerous without knowing for sure what may be shared with the horn fuse...

Masoncycle
04-05-2014, 06:51 PM
I don't know if disabling the horn is a good solution. Safety reason?

modular
04-05-2014, 08:24 PM
Install a Stebel Italia air horn in the place of the OEM piece. Problem solved. It's not active long enough to honk. You'll be lucky to hear anything at all when you lock the car. I know this because I installed the same horn on my last 3 vehicles and man is it loud!

Ballinger
04-06-2014, 01:02 PM
Install a Stebel Italia air horn in the place of the OEM piece. Problem solved.

I did this on our Honda Civic back in the 80's and it was a very simple install, with plenty of space up under the car to tuck the horns. How was the install on the 500e? Do you feel like crawling under there, taking some photos and posting us a thread with some DIY guidance?

I actually think the horn on the e's is great: far "larger sounding" than the car is. The beep-on-lock is a bummer, though, especially late at night.

modular
04-06-2014, 01:08 PM
I have an Abarth. The horn is not installed as of yet. I am waiting for cy-clone to finalize his battery tray so it frees up some space in front of the battery. I want to mount it to the core support as I have done in the past.

dbrick
04-23-2014, 10:48 AM
I don't know if disabling the horn is a good solution. Safety reason?

I'm with the other posters. I want to disable the horn beep when locking the car, not in normal driving-down-the-street operation. Noise pollution is an issue in our world, and this behavior doesn't help.

Ballinger
04-24-2014, 08:43 AM
I guess a change like this might be a software modification that could be implemented at the dealerships at time of service... just like the update/flash Fiat released for some of the early '13 cars already. Perhaps interested folks could organize an email campaign to the correct contacts at Fiat.

Macchina Divertente
04-24-2014, 12:47 PM
Or they could design it so the horn only honks if you press the lock button twice as it is with my Ford Ranger.

Greg Elmassian
08-08-2014, 10:09 PM
Anyone figure out what the alarm system mfg is on the California ones? I have new 2014 one.

Greg

CjDaniel
08-08-2014, 10:47 PM
I am onboard with eliminating the horn. I was shocked when I heard it because I hate it in other peoples vehicles.
My ford will only do it if you hit the lock twice in short period of time.

Greg Elmassian
08-10-2014, 09:45 PM
I think this issue is related to the 3rd party alarm fitted. I have one like many do, but no manual on it, and it has a button but no light.

I'll be back at the dealership to figure this out.

Greg

Nogastorace
01-18-2015, 02:42 PM
I tested this double click thing last night And it does arm the alarm. Here is what I did to test it: stopped the car, opened the door, double clicked the lock button, and closed the door. The lights blinked one more time(as stated). I gave it a 20 count and opened the door. Alarm went off immediately. I have a '13 A Barth. Hope that helps.

dbrick
01-18-2015, 03:42 PM
I tested this double click thing last night And it does arm the alarm. Here is what I did to test it: stopped the car, opened the door, double clicked the lock button, and closed the door. The lights blinked one more time(as stated). I gave it a 20 count and opened the door. Alarm went off immediately. I have a '13 A Barth. Hope that helps.

This isn't clear to me...sounds like after the button dance the car was alarmed but wasn't locked. Is that correct?

The beep-on-lock-with-remote is indeed (forgive me) a stupid "feature."

Nogastorace
01-19-2015, 12:30 PM
Sorry I meant that when it armed, it also locked the doors. I grabbed the handle from the inside to open the door, which set off the alarm.

Greg Elmassian
01-21-2015, 05:02 PM
OK, first this is a 500e forum, but there's hardly anyone with an "answer" that has a 500e

I have a 2014 500e.... whether the door is open or not, the first press of the lock button beeps the horn... the second press does not matter at this point, already beeped.

So the other cars that are not 500e's seem to act differently, as well as apparently some that have an aftermarket alarm.

I removed the "Karr" "alarm" that was installed by the dealer, who of course tried to hold me hostage to remove it or "activate" it... another separate topic of dealer BS.

Anyway, it seems that for sure on a 2014 500e you cannot disable the beep pulse to the horn. Yes, the air horn replacement works because the pulse is so short the air compressor won't respond.. of course in normal use, you will get that delay too, which I don't like, when I honk, it's because there is a problem.

Greg

Atv
04-04-2015, 03:57 AM
Anyone with a service manual, and locate the trigger wire from alarm module to the horn? I hope that isn't all can-bus now...