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Jalpa_Mike
08-21-2013, 12:19 PM
My wife is wanting to replace her 500 "Sport" with the new 500L. We went and test drove one last night. I really like how much more "umph" the 500L has over the standard 500.

One item that we were both confused about..... When you look at the FIAT USA website and "Build your Own", it appears that you can't get a color matched dash (like the 500), and yet looking online, we keep seeing images like this. Also note that the seat fabric doesn't show up either.

Is this a "Euro Only" option? Not available in the USA?

Thanks!

Mike

Andree
08-21-2013, 12:26 PM
The image provided is of the Pop model 500L, which does indeed have the color matched glossy dash. The Pop model is available only with the manual transmission and the cool floating 500L logo on the backs of the black seat. Upper colors for the seats are also available in gray. The Pop model comes in five classic colors, red, black, white, light and dark metallic gray.

There are four different trim levels, Pop, Easy, Lounge, Trekking. Each has it's own distinctive interior, which includes dash treatments.

More than happy to assist with finding pics of various color combinations. What state are you in? That way I can find pics of cars that are at least CLOSE to where you are.

Andree
08-21-2013, 12:29 PM
Just to get you going on the interior shots of the Pop:

Red w/red/black interior:
http://www.fiatusaofaustin.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-Austin+TX-0c99540b0a0a00de01e7c4d4c2dcc18f.htm

White w/red/black interior:
http://www.fiatusaofaustin.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-Austin+TX-16e6086b0a0a00640123ef320193a936.htm

Black w/custom red/black interior:
http://www.ocfiat.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-fc84455f0a0a00e001bff1b45746aeb4.htm

Jalpa_Mike
08-21-2013, 12:48 PM
Thanks so much Andree for the quick reply.

We never even considered the POP, because so many of the options we wanted to get were not on the POP. Beats, heated seats, Nav, Sirius/XM, etc....

We were just curious if the Trekking or Easy had the option of a color matched dash. :-)

We are in Washington State (FIAT of Tacoma is our closest dealer)

Mike

Andree
08-21-2013, 12:51 PM
Did you want manual or auto? Color pref?

One of the forum members was having their Trekking dash painted to match the yellow. Easy, Lounge have fabric dash.

I'll go check Washington.

Jalpa_Mike
08-21-2013, 12:55 PM
100% want manual transmission. :-)

We ruled out the Lounge simply because it doesn't have the manual option.

Mike

Andree
08-21-2013, 01:03 PM
Tacoma shows a fully loaded black Trekking, which should have a glossy black dash (no pics on link):
http://www.fiatusaoftacoma.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-seattle-tacoma-547b76220a0a00de003952942a6ad8ac.htm

Popular equipment, Beats/Sirius, auto, sunroof, heated seats, engine block heater, compact spare tire.

Andree
08-21-2013, 01:06 PM
100% want manual transmission. :-)

We ruled out the Lounge simply because it doesn't have the manual option.

Mike

That'll be a toughie. So, Easy or Trekking. The Trekking will have the glossy dash, the Easy will have a dash that matches the INTERIOR.

Jalpa_Mike
08-21-2013, 01:08 PM
She does seem to be leaning toward the Trekking, so having that dash removed and painted the car color is also an option....

Mike

Andree
08-21-2013, 01:26 PM
Tacoma:

In transit, Easy, Light blue w/gray/beige seats, Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius, Compact spare tire:
http://www.fiatusaoftacoma.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-seattle-tacoma-9c9487a60a0a00640022023a65f274ea.htm

In transit, Trekking, Black w/trekking interior, Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius:
http://www.fiatusaoftacoma.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-seattle-tacoma-4f5512d10a0a00e0014e983ac5c3c733.htm

Kirkland (with a difficult to navigate site, because apparently putting the transmission in the description isn't important, and "6-speed" doesn't help LOL):

Red w/black roof w/black/gray, Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius, Heated seats
http://www.fiatofkirkland.com/2014-FIAT-500L-Easy-Kirkland-WA/vd/15729850

That's all for now.

Jalpa_Mike
08-21-2013, 01:36 PM
I wonder how much it would cost to pop off the dash cover of a "Trekking" and have it painted either yellow or white (depending on what color she wants). She really liked the Rosso Red on the Easy, but unfortunately, Red is not an option on the Trekking! D'oh!

Andree
08-21-2013, 01:40 PM
Oregon:

White, Trekking (all Trekkings have the same interior, black with brown), Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius, Power Sunroof, Heated Seats, Compact spare tire:
http://www.lithiafiateugene.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-eugene-or-54cdbc650a0a00650133a2a87040098b.htm

You can view some nice shots of the combination w/o sunroof via n00dle's pics:
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?11404-n00dle-s-Bianco-Trekking&p=624248#post624248

and:
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?11270-Trekking-in-LA!

That one has more of a gray dash.

Andree
08-21-2013, 01:50 PM
I wonder how much it would cost to pop off the dash cover of a "Trekking" and have it painted either yellow or white (depending on what color she wants). She really liked the Rosso Red on the Easy, but unfortunately, Red is not an option on the Trekking! D'oh!

I'm pretty sure it was someone with a yellow Trekking that was having it done, or was doing it themselves. But I can't find the post where it was mentioned and I don't think I ever saw the results, if they were posted.

Providing the dash pieces are the same, you might be able to buy the body color shiny dash pieces for a Pop and put them in the Trekking. Of course, there is no yellow, that's a Trekking only color.

Andree
08-21-2013, 02:00 PM
There are pictures of the dash here where it appears to be the shiny black, I'm still confused as to what dash is standard, because of the images:
http://www.fiatusaofscottsdale.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-545fe2330a0a00650133a2a85a19808f.htm

That will also give you the idea of how the yellow looks paired with the interior.

Andree
08-22-2013, 02:33 PM
Tacoma has a couple white Trekkings in transit, white with black roof, Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius:

http://www.fiatusaoftacoma.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-seattle-tacoma-a6e184060a0a00de0096a53a0dbc4424.htm

and

http://www.fiatusaoftacoma.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-seattle-tacoma-a6e183520a0a00de0096a53a6afb4523.htm

You can have heated seats put in, and a custom interior. Top image group here is of a 500L done it black over tan leather:
http://www.fiatusaofberkeley.com/mckevitt-fiat-custom-leather-packages.htm

Scroll down on the custom interior page to see a white/red interior. Since your wife liked the red, but it isn't available on the Trekking for the exterior, why not do it on the interior? With a white Trekking.

They use Katzkin, and you can play around with the seat configurator here: http://www.katzkin2.com/SeatSelector/SCSTOOL_09.html

It's a generic seat, but it will give you ideas on what is possible, what you might like.

Andree
08-22-2013, 06:06 PM
If Eugene seems too far to drive, there is a TRAIN you could take, through Amtrak!

Here's the Amtrak Cascades page:
http://www.amtrakcascades.com/Tickets.htm

Looking on the Amtrak tickets page:
http://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak

There's a train that leaves Friday eve at 6:13 pm and arrives in Eugene at 11:55. Straight through, no transfers. It says it's $180 for 2 coach seats. I think it's for BOTH seats, but you'd have to check.

Then plop down at a local hotel overnight, and pick up the white Trekking on Saturday. The dealership is closed on Sundays. You could call ahead and try to get the deal done on the phone. I did my last car via email and the phone, as I didn't have a car to get me there to buy one. LOL.

And enjoy a scenic drive home on Saturday afternoon/evening.

Google says it's a four hour drive. One can drive while the other plays around with all the new neat stuff. Or reclines in the back seat and naps or stares out at the sky!

I obviously missed my calling as a travel agent car saleswoman. What a neat adventure it would be.

NGEN
08-22-2013, 06:11 PM
I think Andree is a Travel Agent that also works for Fiat.... LOL

Man Andree you do a great job of finding pretty much everything!

Andree
08-23-2013, 07:24 AM
I think Andree is a Travel Agent that also works for Fiat.... LOL

Man Andree you do a great job of finding pretty much everything!

It's fun to do, and it gives me something to do other than stare out the window.

I was going to look for the cost of trucking the 500L from Eugene to Tacoma, when the Google search suggested "Eugene to Tacoma train". I didn't know there WAS a train that went between the two places. But it looks like it would be cheaper than trucking, if the price is for both seats one way.

I used to look online for hotels/motels/inns for my brother when he was traveling. He'd always had a hard time getting a decent room. He's thrifty, but sometimes the least expensive room can be too noisy. He ended up taking my suggestion to try out the Hampton Inn, and was pleased with the result.

They had things he could use, like the high speed internet connection, breakfast included, there was an evening snack at some of the places, nice large flat screen tvs, etc. It depends on which inn it is as to what each room may have. But it doesn't matter what a room has if it's noisy, so no one can get any sleep.

I would go looking for cars for people when I was on another forum, too. When I had my Honda. Doing the same thing, checking dealership inventories online. It can be hard to find a specific combination sometimes. And there are plenty of people willing to travel to pick up the car, or have it dealer traded, or trucked.

Lots of people don't have time to check into all the dealerships. And when you're looking for a car once every four or ten years, you don't really NEED to learn how to search the inventory. You just want to find the car you want. LOL.

And I don't stop at just one dealership. Because there are too many combinations with the Fiat for any one dealer to have all the varieties at any one time. Why order and wait months if it's just a matter of a day trip/overnight trip? Or having it trucked.

For me, I had a trade for my Fiat, and driving an extended period with my back problems was pretty much out of the question. But in my younger days, pre-disability, those spur of the moment trips to Tahoe or southern California were not a problem.

Since I don't know each person's situation, all ideas are possible. So I try to come up with as many ideas as I can for each person so they can get the car they want now.

Jalpa_Mike
08-23-2013, 08:17 AM
We had an about face after checking out the 500L down at Fiat of Tacoma. She ended up liking the "Trekking" model best of all. LOL!

So, we are working with them on locating a "Trekking" that is Yellow w/white roof, 6-speed manual gearbox, Beats, etc. We'll have them add the heated seats after the fact, since on the "build your own", the only way you can get it is by ordering the sunroof, which neither of us wanted.

Looking around on various FIAT sites, I found Las Vegas has one just like we want. I passed that info onto FIAT of Tacoma.

Next step is to get a Trade-in value for her current 500 "SPORT". Any ballpark guesses on what they'll offer? 21K miles, Custom Stripes, 5 speed manual, color coordinated "500" door guards, chrome gas cap, Italian flag badges, "500" Door Sill guards, 500 Maddness Leather hatchback pulldown strap. And, we still have 1 year left on the 3 year/36K free maintenance program.

Mike

Andree
08-23-2013, 10:59 AM
You can get a good idea on going rates for the Sport via http://www.cargurus.com/

You'll get less than whatever the lowest rate is in your area.

Lightning McQueen
08-23-2013, 07:07 PM
Andree
You appear to be the Yoda of the 500L. I also like the glossy dash as I believe it is consistent with the retro look. Shinny metal dashboards disappeared around the time seat belts began appearing as padded dashes became a safety feature. With the advent of airbags, I am not convinced the padded dash is necessary. We also would like the matching color dash but want most of the bells and whistles including leather seats. Unfortunately based on our personal testing and consistent with things I have read on the threads, the Lounge seats are too stiff, especially when compared with the aftermarket Katzkin product we tried out in the showroom. So what we are looking for is a Rosso Easy, Dual Clutch, with the Preferred Pack (21D), the Premier Pack Plus Beats, AND WHITE ROOF (no sunroof). Unfortunately, looking through the online inventory for weeks now, there are only 10 cars out of 2300 in the entire nation that are Red and White Easys, the closest being almost 400 miles from the San Francisco area. Dealers I have spoken too don't seem to have any easy way to get the Easy we want. Since this color combo is one of the most popular for the closest competition to the 500L - the Mini Countryman, why is this Easy so Hard to find? And of course we have already accepted we will not find the model we want with a glossy dash.

Andree
08-23-2013, 08:27 PM
Andree
You appear to be the Yoda of the 500L. I also like the glossy dash as I believe it is consistent with the retro look. Shinny metal dashboards disappeared around the time seat belts began appearing as padded dashes became a safety feature. With the advent of airbags, I am not convinced the padded dash is necessary. We also would like the matching color dash but want most of the bells and whistles including leather seats. Unfortunately based on our personal testing and consistent with things I have read on the threads, the Lounge seats are too stiff, especially when compared with the aftermarket Katzkin product we tried out in the showroom. So what we are looking for is a Rosso Easy, Dual Clutch, with the Preferred Pack (21D), the Premier Pack Plus Beats, AND WHITE ROOF (no sunroof). Unfortunately, looking through the online inventory for weeks now, there are only 10 cars out of 2300 in the entire nation that are Red and White Easys, the closest being almost 400 miles from the San Francisco area. Dealers I have spoken too don't seem to have any easy way to get the Easy we want. Since this color combo is one of the most popular for the closest competition to the 500L - the Mini Countryman, why is this Easy so Hard to find? And of course we have already accepted we will not find the model we want with a glossy dash.

You've given me a new mission (Mission Impossible theme plays in the background).

Red, white roof, automagic, Beats/Sirius. No sunroof.

Did you use just the Fiat online "search inventory"?

"21D" is for the manual transmission, not the euro twin clutch. That's all that means.

Andree
08-23-2013, 08:35 PM
Also, any reason for not picking the Lounge or Trekking in automatics?

And you're having the interior custom done, yes? I'm guessing you checked out the leather at McKevitt?

Whoops, no red in trekking.

Andree
08-23-2013, 08:59 PM
Dude, did you even look? LOL:

http://www.bobbakerfiat.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-fd0d42ea0a0a00650113fc37ebbdb369.htm

Exterior Color:
Rosso (Red) Exterior Paint
Interior Color:
Black Interior Color
Interior:
Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats
Engine:
1.4-Liter I4 MultiAir (R) Turbo Engine
Transmission:
6-Speed Euro Twin Clutch Transmission

Customer Preferred Package 22D
Popular Equipment Group
$ 700
Dual Zone Automatic Temperature
Control
Power Driver 4-Way Lumbar Adjust
Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirror
115-Volt Auxiliary Power Outlet
Rear Seat with Armrest and Cup Holder
Easy Premier Package Plus Beats(TM)
Audio/SiriusXM
$ 700
Beats (TM) Audio 6 Premium Speakers
Plus Subwoofer
SiriusXM Satellite Radio w/ 1-Yr Radio
Subscription
Black / Cementite Seats
Cementite (Gray) Instrument Panel
Bezels
6-Speed Euro Twin Clutch Transmission
$ 1,350
Bianco Roof (White)
$ 500
16-Inch Aluminum Wheels with Black
Accent

Just in case someone is looking for the Red w/white roof MANUAL with Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius, Heated Seats, No Sunroof, it's waiting in Henderson NV:
http://www.fiatusaofhenderson.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-0ceba2dc0a0a00650029b1edbd96d617.htm#

The ultra retro light blue w/white roof Lounge, in automatic w/Beats, with the beige/gray interior, and the super optional wheels with white pockets (gotta look!):
http://www.fiatusaofbakersfield.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-5444712c0a0a00650133a2a8d5595512.htm

Andree
08-23-2013, 10:05 PM
Call the selling dealer, and your local dealer. It will cost under $500 or so to have the car shipped up here:
http://www.uship.com/vehicles/california/carlsbad

If one dealer doesn't want to work with you on transferring a car, try out the new San Francisco Fiat. No website yet, but they have a phone number:
FIAT of San Francisco
(415) 906-6360

With San Francisco being new, I'd expect them to be getting all kinds of cars coming in.

Lightning McQueen
08-24-2013, 01:01 AM
Exactly Andree. That one is in San Diego which is even farther than the one I found in Santa Monica. The bottom line is I see no logical reason to pay an extra $500 because Fiat has not distributed one in my zone. I guess I will have to wait. What bugs me is that with virtually any other brand the dealer can order one up. With Fiat it seems you have to let the dice roll and hope your number comes up. Also, I wish they would have what most of the foreign companies (Volvo, BMW, etc.) have and Fiat use to have. A European Delivery Program. Volvo's was the best. You paid for your car, getting eight percent off the sticker, Volvo sends you two plane tickets to Sweden. They put you up in a hotel for the night. The next day you pick up your car at the factory. You tool around Europe on your vacation, return the car, Volvo ships it to your dealer, and you pick it up again when you get home. We plan to go to Europe next summer and would love to do buy our Fiat that way.

Lightning McQueen
08-24-2013, 01:08 AM
Answer to your other question yes we checked the leather out at McKevitt. They had a Lounge with leather next to an Easy with aftermarket leather and we thought the aftermarket was much more comfortable plus many more options. And yes, no red for the Trekking. Also, McKevitt has a red Easy that they sent out for leather AND a repainted roof (White) which must tell you what their customers are asking for. Personally I don't want a new car with an aftermarket paint job so again, we will wait.

Andree
08-24-2013, 04:24 AM
Exactly Andree. That one is in San Diego which is even farther than the one I found in Santa Monica. The bottom line is I see no logical reason to pay an extra $500 because Fiat has not distributed one in my zone. I guess I will have to wait. What bugs me is that with virtually any other brand the dealer can order one up. With Fiat it seems you have to let the dice roll and hope your number comes up. Also, I wish they would have what most of the foreign companies (Volvo, BMW, etc.) have and Fiat use to have. A European Delivery Program. Volvo's was the best. You paid for your car, getting eight percent off the sticker, Volvo sends you two plane tickets to Sweden. They put you up in a hotel for the night. The next day you pick up your car at the factory. You tool around Europe on your vacation, return the car, Volvo ships it to your dealer, and you pick it up again when you get home. We plan to go to Europe next summer and would love to do buy our Fiat that way.

Just because you don't see one in this area doesn't mean there wasn't one earlier. We're on shipment two or three of the 500L. The first shipment was mostly Easys, with a Pop or two and maybe one Lounge per dealership. That's it. There were no Trekkings. Now we're seeing more Trekkings coming in. There was ONE light blue vehicle in Denver, didn't find more than something like three in the U.S. Now there are more coming in.

So, I would guess that there will be more red w/white roofs coming in.

There is a lot of variety with the 500L. Let's look at numbers:

1 rosso 500L easy
2 transmissions
3 interior colors
3 possible roof colors

18 Rosso combinations. And I didn't include the sunroof. Or any other options. Or any of the other 8 colors on the Easy. Or the Pop with it's 5 colors and manual transmission, the Lounge with it's dual clutch transmission and nine colors. Or the Trekking in manual or dual clutch in six colors.

Suddenly there's a HUGE number of 500Ls. Some dealers don't have 18 total 500Ls, let alone all the Rosso variations. It would be ridiculous to expect any dealer to carry every single variation.

THAT is why you aren't seeing exactly what you want right now. It's a brand-spankin'-new car.

McKevitt rocks. They know they aren't always going to get all the color combinations or interiors that a customer might want. They can get it DONE. And they show pictures of their interiors, so there's no guessing if it will look like stock or look the way a customer wants it to.

When I had my Honda Fit, it was much less confusing. For a white car, there was a stick or auto, base model, or sport model, or sport w/nav. Base model had ONE interior color, light gray. Sport model had one interior color, black. There were no other options to choose from. So, for a white base model, there were two combinations, white w/stick shift or white w/automatic. That's it.

Even with that simplicity, I still couldn't find the car right away.

These aren't grocery store canned goods able to be stacked neatly on a shelf. They're far too expensive to have just sitting around. And you can't stack them on top of each other. LOL

We're actually very lucky in California, especially the southern area with it's plentiful dealerships. We have access to a huge selection, between all those dealerships, making it pretty likely that we could find that ONE car in the state that meets our needs. Because that's about how many dealers it takes to stock most of the variations of the 500L.

So there are three choices. Wait. Have it done. Get it shipped.

Andree
08-24-2013, 04:39 AM
You still pay to transport the Volvo from the drop off point to the shipping port:

"You only pay to transport your Volvo from your preferred drop-off point to the final loading port. Or you can use the transport services from Gothenburg and pay nothing at all."

http://www.volvocars.com/us/sales-services/sales/volvo_overseas_delivery/bringing_home_your_volvo/Pages/default.aspx

Secondly, the VAT is brutal, if you miss your drop off date:
"You will also be
responsible for payment of Swedish VAT and any other applicable costs and
taxes, in addition to possible penalties in Europe. The VAT is 25% of the car
purchase price"

From the Home Delivery Brochure.

And don't use the Geneva Switzerland drop off location, it's outrageous, with the 1,005 euro fee ($1,344.991 US). Yes, there is a fee to drop off your car, and it has to be scheduled in advance.

All of a sudden, shipping from So Cal isn't so bad, eh?

Andree
08-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Okay, I'm bored again. How many Rosso combinations are there?

Easy Rosso no option w/manual or dual clutch (2 cars)
Three interior options: Black/gray, Red/gray, Dark Gray/beige (6 cars)
Three roof colors: Body, White, Black (18 cars)
With or without heated seats (36 cars)
With or without sunroof (72 cars)
With or without compact spare tire (144 cars)
With or without engine block heater (288 cars)
With or without Popular Equipment (576 cars)
Beats/Sirius could go on the half of the cars with Popular Equipment (half of half of 576),
adding another 144 variations,
making 720 Rosso Easy variations.

That seems awfully high. Where'd I go wrong? What have I forgotten about basic math. Wah. I was doing great at the two variations point. LOL. Someone help me! I've run out of fingers!

Lightning McQueen
08-24-2013, 04:59 PM
You are thinking of car production like a mathematician, not from a marketing perspective. The goal is to produce the most popular combos with the most profit. Therefore, I will appeal by price with the Pop and some low end Easys. Then put a lot of loaded Easys out there. They clearly realize Red is a popular color since there are a lot of those but I think the missed the attraction of the two tone which is so popular with the Minis.

Andree
08-24-2013, 05:15 PM
Lightning McQueen, I did another check of California dealerships, to see what was in transit. It appears the majority of vehicles right now in transit to dealers are Trekkings.

So, I'd guess another few weeks before the next batch, and it may well contain more Easys. I'll keep checking around.

Andree
08-24-2013, 05:27 PM
You are thinking of car production like a mathematician, not from a marketing perspective. The goal is to produce the most popular combos with the most profit. Therefore, I will appeal by price with the Pop and some low end Easys. Then put a lot of loaded Easys out there. They clearly realize Red is a popular color since there are a lot of those but I think the missed the attraction of the two tone which is so popular with the Minis.

They did do a lot of two-tone, but not enough in the colors you like. There are a lot of the white over emerald green, which looks super. Those seem to be popular. The Lounges with the painted roof are more likely to be black with the sunroof. The sunroof IS a popular option for many. The black roof makes the sunroof blend in better.

And the vehicle that has been promoted the most is the white over yellow Trekking. Those are finally rolling into dealerships.

You're particularly sensitive to the colors you really like. So you will totally notice if there are or aren't the colors you like. As far as overall color popularity, red is NOT the most popular. Hasn't been for ages.

Global color popularity, DuPont 2012:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/dupont_perform_coatings/2012_color_popularity/prweb10210189.htm

Forbes: White, Silver, Gray, Black, then Red:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2012/12/21/top-10-most-popular-car-colors/

DuPont does it every year, 2011:
http://www2.dupont.com/Media_Center/en_US/color_popularity/

We'll find one for you! It might take a few shipments though.

Lightning McQueen
08-25-2013, 12:01 PM
Thanks for keeping my updated. I was once told the model with the highest resale appeal is the one on the cover of the brochure or promoted in the ads. In the media I see a lot of Trekking in the Yellow/White combo and actually would have gone for that but my wife does not like it. Next is the Red with Black but, as you said, most of these are with sunroofs and I agree, the black works better with a sunroof. We don't want the sunroof for a number of reasons (bad experiences), mechanical or leaking issues over time, heat, but mostly because many reviewers have mentioned the loss of several inches of interior height due to the sunroof and my kids are all 6'3". As for color popularity, personally I would not compare the color choices of Buicks and Fords to this particular car. If I had to guess the initial block of people going for the 500L are the ones that like the Mini Countryman but found it too small, too expensive, and possibly have read the reports about unreliability. Using that demographic then lets look at the color popularity for the Mini. Red in one color versions and Red/White in two tone.

http://www.sjbaker.org/telamom/colours.html

P.S. Thanks for keeping me informed. You seem to have access to the In-Transit data which, originally the on-line inventory had, but no longer shows.
I will continue to check inventory each day.

Ciao

Andree
08-25-2013, 04:22 PM
Yes, I definitely love the British Racing Green color. But I'd prefer it in a classic Jag, and it's got to have a tan interior:
http://bootsnburbs.blogspot.com/2012/04/hue-british-racing-green.html

Notice with the Pop 500L, the five colors available are the top five colors everywhere: White, Black, Silver, Gray, Red

They've been doing something with the online site, because the criteria match was actually working the other day. Better than it ever has.

The in-transit data I'm getting by manually pulling up each dealership, clicking on new inventory, clicking on year 2014, then scrolling through the results.

I use a combination of http://www.dealerrater.com/directory/California/Fiat/ , my brain (remembering which dealers aren't on that list, like Berkeley) and the Fiat site to do a search new inventory, and pull up the dealership from the results and check what they have.

The Dealer Rater site has a few bad links, but I can search for the right links. I particularly like the map format of the Dealer Rater site, so I can SEE what is where. I really think Fiat (and all other car manufacturers) need to use that Google map format on their official sites. Include ALL the dealers.

What you may not know about the Fiat official Search New Inventory, is that it does NOT show all the dealers. I believe the dealers must PAY to have the results show up on the manufacturer site. There was a time when going to load a link from the Fiat site that part of the url was something like "paid ad". Which I think is totally bogus.

It behooves Fiat the manufacturer and all dealers to be included on a comprehensive list. Because there are SO MANY combinations, and my combination may not be at my closest dealer. See, what goes around, comes around. I might not buy from my closest dealer, X, I'll drive to dealer Y to get my car. The next person has dealer Y as their closest dealer, but they end up going to dealer X because that's where the combination they want is.

We'll probably end up servicing at our nearest dealer. And getting accessories later on from that dealer. Overall it should even out. Because it's about the CARS for the consumer. Right? We want the car that we've looked at online, or built on the configurator.

Even the largest dealer can't hold all the combinations, with like 50 500Ls. It may be the little dealership with exactly 2 500Ls has the combination you want. And they're spread out all over the place.

I just posted this blurb in another thread, talking about the time line of the 500L...did you realize it was just a little over a month ago that the first shipment came to the west coast? And that the first shipment contained only 370 cars?

"Thursday, July 18, 2013
First Fiats Arrive at Port of San Diego"

"Manufactured in Europe, the first shipments are the Fiat Model 500L which joins the Fiat 500 line currently produced in Mexico. The shipments are handled by the Grimaldi Group who will utilize NYK Steamship Line for these imports, with the vessel Demeter Leader bringing in the first 370 of these shiny new cars, along with a shipment of Volkswagens, Audis and Porsches."

from: http://www.pashagroup.com/news/pasha-automotive-services-lands-fiat-contract

Last night I was looking around Washington, and seems most of their incoming cars are Lounges. So it's different by state. They have far fewer dealerships, as in just a couple. You'd pretty much have to truck in a car, or be prepared to hope and wait.

I went through the same thing with my car, but I had many favorite colors, LOL and interiors. So I made a list of what absolutely HAD to be on the car and the reasons for me WHY they had to be on the car.

I was changing cars specifically because of my back pain and the ghastly torturing seats in the Honda Fit. The "lumbar support" poked right into my sore area, and there was no way of escaping the pain.

The seat material in the Honda grabbed clothing and lint and hair and fluff and everything else. With my back, I kind of want to slide a bit into position, so that meant vinyl or leather seating. And the heated seat option, which turns every trip into soothing heat therapy for the back. It's wonderful.

Because it's overcast and my apartment is a cave, I needed more light. Sunroof. And I like the air circulation, so it had to be the opening kind rather than the fixed glass roof that came standard on the Lounge.

It had to have the ivory accent, again having to do with light. I needed as much light inside as possible, it is definitely a mood elevator. I was originally looking for regular white (not pearl) with the white/red interior and spoke wheels. I ended up with a light green with white/brown interior and the 9 split spoke wheels. And I love it.

And it came from my closest dealer. That's what they had.

Andree
08-25-2013, 04:55 PM
One more thing, a "Pro-Tip". When scrolling through inventories, the descriptions may not match, so it's good to check the Window Sticker. And as the prices are the same for the options, you can then just scroll and look at PRICES.

Here's an example, for what you want, you only need scroll for Easys that are $24K+

This one is white over green, with Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius, Painted Roof, Dual Clutch, and also has heated seats ($350), with a total of $24,595:
http://www.fiatusaofsanjoseca.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-0be01c700a0a0002018f48a1e66514fe.htm

That's the same price as it would be if it were white over red with the same options. So you can easily skip over vehicles costing under $24K, because they will not have all the options you want.

That's how I did it looking for my regular 500. Muttering to myself "it doesn't cost enough to have what I want". LOL.

Here, I made a picture of the white over green with a custom interior:
7573

Tell me that's not awesome. LOL.

Okay, back to looking for white over red.

Jalpa_Mike
08-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Andree,

Do you have any photos of a Trekking in Yellow with the Black roof??? I can't find one anywhere on the internet! Everything has the white roof or soild yellow roof.

Thanks!

Mike

Andree
08-25-2013, 07:57 PM
Andree,

Do you have any photos of a Trekking in Yellow with the Black roof??? I can't find one anywhere on the internet! Everything has the white roof or soild yellow roof.

Thanks!

Mike

Not sure. I'd posted recently about the difficulty of finding contrasting roofs with sunroofs

I've found white over yellow Trekking with the sunroof in pictures. Here it is in the UK version, they also have a black/white interior:
http://www.carnbike.co.uk/fiat-500l-trekking-the-500-gets-tough/

And now we're getting more combinations, it seems. So I can't tell you for sure if I've seen one or not. I've seen the black and the white over the Mocha, for sure.

Since I JUST went through all of California for Lightning, I may wait a few moments before looking for black over yellow Trekking. What happened to the OMG Vegas Trek King you liked? I liked the way they made a space between "Trek" and "King", gave a whole new meaning to the car name.

Are you pretty sure on what you want now? Because we've gone from red Easy to yellow Trekking. LOL! This is exactly what I went through. Gee whiz. Colors I seriously considered as I searched for my regular 500: White. Pearl White. Red. Pearl Red. Brown. Tan. Olive Green. Light Green. And I searched dealerships for MONTHS. I think I started last August, and finally got around to buying in December. I wanted a sale 2012. I ended up with a 2013.

Thing is, if I had been as flexible at the beginning of my search as I was at the end, I would have been able to nab a car for THOUSANDS less that what I ended up paying.

So a suggestion, consider the absolute MUST HAVES and absolute DON'T WANTS.

heh, except I swore I wouldn't have another black car until I saw a UK 500 with the black/white fabric and the ivory accent, and would have taken that car in a heartbeat if I'd seen it. Here, this is it from October of last year, ha:
7580

The carpet is more of a charcoal gray, with the intense black exterior and dash, and the ivory seat headrests/backs of seats, and the ivory/black cloth. You could totally do that in a black Easy (the Easy can come with the gray accents). Except in the leather. The interior is already color coordinated with an off-white roof, black body panels, and charcoal carpet.

Andree
08-25-2013, 09:50 PM
Andree,

Do you have any photos of a Trekking in Yellow with the Black roof??? I can't find one anywhere on the internet! Everything has the white roof or soild yellow roof.

Thanks!

Mike

I cheated, and used the UK configurator, so you can see what it looks like:
7594

Jalpa_Mike
08-26-2013, 12:03 AM
Thanks Andree.

And, I actually found one too! In Riverside, Ca.
http://www.fiatusaofriverside.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-544471360a0a00e0014e983ab437d632.htm

We just wanted to see how the black roof compared to the white roof.

Mike

Andree
08-26-2013, 03:28 AM
Thanks Andree.

And, I actually found one too! In Riverside, Ca.
http://www.fiatusaofriverside.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-544471360a0a00e0014e983ab437d632.htm

We just wanted to see how the black roof compared to the white roof.

Mike

Good find!

Soooooooo???? What did you think of it? Like it more or less?

Andree
08-26-2013, 06:12 PM
Lightning, I've had a brilliant idea.

And I checked it out, so I'm going to send you a Private Message. It will show up as a "Notification" in the upper right area of any forum page.

Andree
08-26-2013, 06:27 PM
Here's a close up of what I call the Sand Dollar Wheels:
http://www.caranddriver.com/photos-12q1/445216/2014-fiat-500l-wheel-photo-445552
with the black painted inner area.

I think those are the right ones, but you'll need to see actual pics of your car. The window sticker doesn't help much:

16-Inch Aluminum Wheels with Black
Accent
$ 300
X9B

Wait, the sand dollar wheels are 17", now I'm looking for another car with the same wheel description and actual photos...

It could be THESE wheels, the "ninja" ones:
http://www.fiatusaofvannuys.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-3f8f81660a0a00de0039529476ef3052.htm

Here's a post from someone who had their car shipped:
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?10919-They-re-out-there-waiting!&p=623296&viewfull=1#post623296

hollyp
08-26-2013, 07:42 PM
Mike, I saw that color red today on an pop model at fiat LA on Figuroa!

hollyp
08-26-2013, 08:02 PM
Hi everyone, hoping to find a mocha latte trekking no sunroof in the southern ca area, There is none around, wondering if Andre could find one with his majic fingers? lol, Im so excited to get this new car, test drove twice and loved it! I'm having so much trouble deciding on color though. I like the seats in the trekking since I have twins, they appear super durable! Has anyone noticed in the white trekking the dash is not white laquer but a silver plastic! What a bummer! That is so wierd. anyway glad to be here and not on the UK site and hope I can find my car!!

n00dle
08-26-2013, 09:08 PM
Has anyone noticed in the white trekking the dash is not white laquer but a silver plastic! What a bummer! That is so wierd. anyway glad to be here and not on the UK site and hope I can find my car!!
Yes, I have one without the glossy dash and like the matte gray finish much better than the painted ones . I don't like having the sunlight reflect back to me with a glossy dash. Good luck with your search.

Andree
08-26-2013, 11:27 PM
Hi everyone, hoping to find a mocha latte trekking no sunroof in the southern ca area, There is none around, wondering if Andre could find one with his majic fingers? lol, Im so excited to get this new car, test drove twice and loved it! I'm having so much trouble deciding on color though. I like the seats in the trekking since I have twins, they appear super durable! Has anyone noticed in the white trekking the dash is not white laquer but a silver plastic! What a bummer! That is so wierd. anyway glad to be here and not on the UK site and hope I can find my car!!

Yes, I certainly will go looking for you. It's Andree, two "E"s and I'm a woman.

But first I must run to the store for some Pistachio Gelato.

Did you want dual clutch automatic or manual?

Andree
08-27-2013, 01:16 AM
Hi everyone, hoping to find a mocha latte trekking no sunroof in the southern ca area, There is none around, wondering if Andre could find one with his majic fingers? lol, Im so excited to get this new car, test drove twice and loved it! I'm having so much trouble deciding on color though. I like the seats in the trekking since I have twins, they appear super durable! Has anyone noticed in the white trekking the dash is not white laquer but a silver plastic! What a bummer! That is so wierd. anyway glad to be here and not on the UK site and hope I can find my car!!

Okay, I'm back. Trekking in Vegas. Automatic, Popular Equipment, Beats/Sirius, Sunroof, it's in transit:
http://www.fiatusaoflasvegas.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-a1a3e1600a0a0049008c491ee705114d.htm

However, you might want to check this one out in Van Nuys. It's a Lounge. Automatic, Beats/Sirius, White roof, White wheels, with the beige/gray Lounge interior and it's ON SALE:
http://www.fiatusaofvannuys.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-5428f3f80a0a00e0014e983a26115877.htm

Here's another Lounge in San Diego, solid Mocha, with the Beige/Gray interior (it's a nice combo), Beats/Sirius, with silver "Sand Dollar" wheels:
http://www.fiatusaofsandiego.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-San-Diego-739877e80a0a00650133a2a84a762fbb.htm

Found a manual and automatic in transit to Denver. I don't think that will help though. LOL
http://www.fiatusaofdenver.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-4f5512fe0a0a006400ee88745fa71db9.htm
http://www.fiatusaofdenver.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-bb7a98f20a0a006500a643e641d61aca.htm

Andree
08-27-2013, 01:25 AM
HollyP, as far as the Trekking dash, it may be either matte gray or gloss black.

I'm guessing that the dash pieces are all the same size, so the Pop 500L model comes with glossy red, black, gray, silver, or white dash. If you chose another model and you wanted the glossy dash, you could probably get one of the Pop ones, to either match a red, gray, or silver car, or match a contrasting roof with the white or black on the dash.

Andree
08-27-2013, 03:31 AM
hollyp, one more to look at of a different color, the light blue Lounge (light blue not available on the Trekking). This one has the white roof and white painted pockets on the wheels, like one of the Mocha Lounges:
http://www.autonationfiatsouthbay.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-Los-Angeles-LA-CA-5496cbe20a0a00e0014e983ac44a8df5.htm

If you look at the image of the wheel close-up, that's about the color. I guess the "true color" really depends on the weather, like my light green regular 500. The light blue will look everything from a blue-white to blue to gray.

You can check the Easy in Denver to see the color in the sun, it's retro:
http://www.fiatusaofdenver.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-20abfc3e0a0a00de004389352fb5ffd6.htm

And something to consider, with twins. As they get older, it's good to have a car they can spot. Like picking them up from school or activities. The Mocha Latte, the Light Blue, even the Yellow would be good, as they aren't common. Fiat makes these great colors, but I don't see anyone else doing it, which is a shame.

hollyp
08-27-2013, 11:01 AM
I'm so sorry! Thank you! Automatic please. Was thinking of adding fun Italian accents to the white if I did t want to wait until December to get the mocha color. I don't know why in having such a hard time deciding. I think because I haven't seen too many mocha colored cars at the dealerships. Just one and I did like it. It had a white roof. The color is quite nice. But the white with some color would be fun too! Anyway thanks again Andree!

hollyp
08-27-2013, 11:04 AM
The trekking I sat in yesterday that was white had a plastic non glossy dash. Awful! I like the white shiny dash. That's the only color they did that in and the dealer did not know why !

hollyp
08-27-2013, 11:37 AM
I'm so tempted to get the lounge with the white top and just get a back seat cover! I really love it! Will call them on that one today. Thanks so much Andree!

Follow up, we'll LA can't give the sale price as that's a dealer thing soooo the car may not be there sat if I go down to get it. Tey said its a"labor day" sale. LA said that dealership is closing so its on sale for that reason. I dot know who to believe. I'd like to buy from LA dealership but they can't get me the car I want!

Andree
08-27-2013, 04:56 PM
I'm so tempted to get the lounge with the white top and just get a back seat cover! I really love it! Will call them on that one today. Thanks so much Andree!

Follow up, we'll LA can't give the sale price as that's a dealer thing soooo the car may not be there sat if I go down to get it. Tey said its a"labor day" sale. LA said that dealership is closing so its on sale for that reason. I dot know who to believe. I'd like to buy from LA dealership but they can't get me the car I want!

Wait, the dealer that has the car (Van Nuys) is not honoring the price they advertise at? Or you were checking another dealership that has the same car and trying to get the same price?

Prices are set by dealers. The price at one dealer may be different than the price at other dealers. If you want the sale price, you have to go to where the sale is. Like anything else. One grocery store chain may have a special or sale on canned beets. You won't get the great price at ALL grocery stores everywhere, just that one chain, where it's advertised as being on sale.

Or you find a pair of shoes at Ross for $29.99 and the same shoe is at Macy's for $69.99. Macy's is NOT going to give you the Ross price.

n00dle
08-27-2013, 05:12 PM
seems like you're not talking to the right people. I got a deal over at Santa Monica Fiat,and that's considering that the 500L is still new and making it's way to consumers. If you're not flexible with what you want, it'll be a bit tougher if they don't even have it in stock.

Andree
08-27-2013, 05:21 PM
Lightning McQueen, I was just thinking, going through my mail, remembered I'd found a white over red for someone else about a month ago. It's a stick in Georgia, and it's still there:
http://www.autonationfiatmallofgeorgia.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-2fe808ff0a0a0064004cbcafe10eb3e8.htm

It has Popular Equipment and Beats/Sirius and heated seats. So by the "loaded Easys" in "Mini popular color combos" this car should be sold. It's not. Many color combinations are popular in one area, and not in another. The combo you're chomping at the bit to get and want Fiat to make a bunch of hasn't sold yet in another area.

That's one of the things that drove me nuts when I was looking for my car. I found one I liked in Denver. DENVER! In December. The winter months. Brrrr. Found one in Arizona, but they didn't call me back, I was going to have it trucked. The ultimate combination was only found twice, and both cars had been sold, in Austin. Nobody else got the red/ivory interior in the light green 500. Now they won't even let that combination be made in the US (Canada still has it).

It was very frustrating, to not find what I wanted where I am, and to find other cars that are so far away. A lot farther away than Southern California. I thought I had to go through a local dealership to get the car from another area, but a local dealership said "No, you go through the dealer that has the car you want, and they send the papers to you, FedEx".

If it's relatively close, the dealers might be able to do a dealer trade. Because each dealer may have colors that are selling or not selling in their area, just within the Bay Area. Or have gotten shipments lacking certain colors, styles, options. So that both dealers win, one gets a car to sell to a specific customer, and the other gets a car they need for their variety of vehicles.

I just want to see people get the cars they want. And hopefully by searching I can find them something, maybe making it easier on them. Plus passing on the things I learned when I was looking, like about buying a car and having it trucked.

Hey, I just upgraded my internet connection, so that I could load pages faster and hopefully be able to find things for people faster. Yay! :) I had a really slow connection.

hollyp
08-27-2013, 05:47 PM
Hey n00dle, dont think my post went through, so here it is again, so Im looking at a "sale" latte lounge for 24k in van nuys and have pitted them against duarte now. Now I will try to get the lifetime bumper to bumper discount honored by $400 that LA offered me, doesnt hurt to ask right? they called it a friends and family or something but discount it was. I am picky about color and checked santa monica and they dont have the color I want so it's between 2 dealerships now at this point that both have the color latte with white top! So fun! hope I have it by the weekend!!!!!

n00dle
08-27-2013, 07:29 PM
hi holly, that Mocha Latte at Van Nuys does look very nice. Nice color combo and the wheels add to the appeal. if you've got 2 dealers, you may have some leverage.

hollyp
08-27-2013, 07:43 PM
I thought it was a great price too, 2K off the msrp, seemed fair! we'll see if I can squeeze a little more out of them on the warranty, Im so not experienced at asking this stuff but I have to when it comes to something like this!

Andree
08-27-2013, 07:44 PM
Hey n00dle, dont think my post went through, so here it is again, so Im looking at a "sale" latte lounge for 24k in van nuys and have pitted them against duarte now. Now I will try to get the lifetime bumper to bumper discount honored by $400 that LA offered me, doesnt hurt to ask right? they called it a friends and family or something but discount it was. I am picky about color and checked santa monica and they dont have the color I want so it's between 2 dealerships now at this point that both have the color latte with white top! So fun! hope I have it by the weekend!!!!!


hi holly, that Mocha Latte at Van Nuys does look very nice. Nice color combo and the wheels add to the appeal. if you've got 2 dealers, you may have some leverage.

Be careful you don't lose them both. Anyone else looking for the combination would probably choose to pay less for the same car, and may beat you to it. Then you have full price and no leverage.

n00dle
08-27-2013, 07:51 PM
there will always be another day Andree, patience. this time next year we will be seeing lots of 500L's on the road :)

hollyp
08-27-2013, 07:56 PM
going down tomorrow to see what I can do, calls in place, will head to van nuys tomorrow and call before I go to see if its still there, if not, then I'll try to negotiate in duarte the best I can. I can be patient and just wait for more to turn up.

Andree
08-27-2013, 08:43 PM
there will always be another day Andree, patience. this time next year we will be seeing lots of 500L's on the road :)

Coming from someone who ALREADY GOT THEIR 500L!!! sillylol

Andree
08-27-2013, 08:58 PM
going down tomorrow to see what I can do, calls in place, will head to van nuys tomorrow and call before I go to see if its still there, if not, then I'll try to negotiate in duarte the best I can. I can be patient and just wait for more to turn up.

Me, at the computer, looking for cars (I can only wish for a joystick to run through the listings): arcadefreak

Because I figure everyone is in a rush: :burnout:

And some folks are. :onthego:

Some aren't. :sleep:

:wavey:

hollyp
08-27-2013, 10:39 PM
thankyou for all your help, you got me in the right direction and the car I wanted! you are awesome!!!

Lightning McQueen
08-28-2013, 12:12 AM
Actually I wanted the Dual Clutch model of which there are two in California (Red/White Easy with the two standard packages). I followed your advice and search by price since all the two tone Easys are coming around in only two configurations, the more expensive version having a sunroof. There is one in Santa Monica and one in Carlsbad and your are right. They have been sitting in inventory for a couple of weeks so maybe what I want won't be that popular. One of the SF Bay area dealers called today and said they would pay the shipping to bring up the Santa Monica car but I turned him down. I figured that would leave little room to negotiate if they spent half their profit on the shipping. I will wait and, among 9 dealers, I am sure one will come around in the next month or so.

Andree
08-28-2013, 02:15 AM
Actually I wanted the Dual Clutch model of which there are two in California (Red/White Easy with the two standard packages). I followed your advice and search by price since all the two tone Easys are coming around in only two configurations, the more expensive version having a sunroof. There is one in Santa Monica and one in Carlsbad and your are right. They have been sitting in inventory for a couple of weeks so maybe what I want won't be that popular. One of the SF Bay area dealers called today and said they would pay the shipping to bring up the Santa Monica car but I turned him down. I figured that would leave little room to negotiate if they spent half their profit on the shipping. I will wait and, among 9 dealers, I am sure one will come around in the next month or so.

I know you wanted the Dual Clutch (I started writing "Dueling Clutch", LOL), but it was just an example of a car with the color scheme and many options.

The white and red is a classic combination, used on just about anything. Because it looks good.

Perhaps the dealer will bring it up anyway, simply because they don't have one, and already had to paint the roof of one to get that combo.

DMike
08-28-2013, 01:10 PM
It depends on which add on package you get. The Trekking in our studio's showroom had the shiny finish on the dash (without the add on package), my Trekking (All white exterior) that a has the $700 interior package (forget the name of it) has a dark gray textured finish.

Now that I'm looking at my window sticker, I think its the "Popular Equipment Group". With it, you get textured (like in the pictures that follow this post), without it you get shiny plastic.

Has anyone figured out how to clean that textured finish?

Lightning McQueen
08-28-2013, 02:10 PM
I am at a loss to understand Fiat's distribution. One of the dealers in my region just received 5 two tone Easys. White w/ Black, Green w/ white, and here's the kicker - three Black w/ white. I have noticed a lot of dealers with multiples of the exact same car. Wouldn't you think Fiat would want as much variety as possible on each lot?

P.S. Andree - The Santa Monica car looks like is sold yesterday.

n00dle
08-28-2013, 03:46 PM
Here are some photos of the dash surround and the bumper & fender trim on the Trekking. They are completely identical in color and texture.

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7624&d=1377719031

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7627&d=1377719034

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7626&d=1377719033

http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7625&d=1377719032

Andree
08-28-2013, 04:06 PM
I am at a loss to understand Fiat's distribution. One of the dealers in my region just received 5 two tone Easys. White w/ Black, Green w/ white, and here's the kicker - three Black w/ white. I have noticed a lot of dealers with multiples of the exact same car. Wouldn't you think Fiat would want as much variety as possible on each lot?

P.S. Andree - The Santa Monica car looks like is sold yesterday.

When I was looking for my car, I noticed "clumps" of colors at various dealerships. And again, there are colors more popular in one area than in another.

Perhaps it encourages dealer trades or customers to visit more than one dealership. Maybe the dealerships know their area and choose the cars they think will sell for their area.

Have you been to the Burlingame dealer? Last year they had only had a few cars on their main dealership area. And this vast back lot. They had a lot of 500s in light green, but none in a Lounge. Meanwhile, down in San Jose, they had a lot of black.

That strategy, taking the entire Bay Area as a whole, works okay. Each dealer then can become THE dealer with a particular color and various options.

But, if there is a really HOT color preference, that one dealer gets everyone while the other lots sit on their inventory.

It would be nice to be able to select from a bunch of cars on one HUGE lot, but with Bay Area prices and dense building, a huge lot anywhere is out of the question. So, you have to consider the entire Bay Area group of dealerships and perhaps the entire state of California as ONE. HUGE. DEALERSHIP.

When you have a specific car in mind, you'll have to go to where the car is, or hope that the car will come to you. Or make arrangements for the distance car TO come to you. LOL

I'm pullin' for ya, hoping to see your color combo coming in soon!

Andree
08-28-2013, 04:07 PM
Thanks n00dle. I like the pics and the coordinating textures inside and out!

DMike
08-28-2013, 07:15 PM
We liked a white top, so to get it we bought the white 500L Trekking. Most cars in the Cleveland area are Dark green with black top or green top. Then there are black, red, a few slivers and white, and a mocha (beige).
We are somewhat disappointed with the overall colors that Fiat has made these in. Look around at other manufactures, and there are some really nice colors.

Lightning McQueen
08-28-2013, 07:23 PM
DMike

I think the Fiat color choices are part of the plan. They are not supposed to look like American cars (and I count the Asian cars as "American"). They are supposed to have a fun Italian look. Think driving though Tuscany or the streets of Florence, not the LA freeway or in your case Lake Shore Drive.
Go Tribe!

Andree
08-28-2013, 08:37 PM
We liked a white top, so to get it we bought the white 500L Trekking. Most cars in the Cleveland area are Dark green with black top or green top. Then there are black, red, a few slivers and white, and a mocha (beige).
We are somewhat disappointed with the overall colors that Fiat has made these in. Look around at other manufactures, and there are some really nice colors.

Define "Really nice colors".

That's the only way for Fiat to know what colors you would like to see the Fiat in. And to encourage the other auto makers to continue using the specific colors you like.

See my next post too.

Andree
08-28-2013, 09:03 PM
DMike

I think the Fiat color choices are part of the plan. They are not supposed to look like American cars (and I count the Asian cars as "American"). They are supposed to have a fun Italian look. Think driving though Tuscany or the streets of Florence, not the LA freeway or in your case Lake Shore Drive.
Go Tribe!

Agreed!

Fiat 500 timeline cheat sheet via Wiki:

2 Models

2.1 Nuova (New) (1957–1960)
2.2 D (1960–1965)
2.3 K or Giardiniera (1960–1975)
2.4 F or Berlina (1965–1973)
2.5 L or Lusso (1968–1972)
2.6 R or Rinnovata (1972–1975)

Use the years to look up paint chips here:
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/

Like this is the paint chip page for 1957, notice it's all grays in the chips, but there are descriptions of other colors. Lots of blues, greens, and some reds (click on each little page on the left to view it larger on the right, note the magnifying box in the upper left corner of the larger page, move cursor around to shift position of the magnifier).
http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1957-Fiat-pg05.jpg

Ahhh, now HERE are some colors, from 1960:
http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1960-Fiat-pg01.jpg

Fiat looks to it's own past for inspiration. Many reds, look at those greens (sigh, how dreamy!), blues that are light, medium, dark. Browns and tan and grays, all these wonderful earth/stone tones.

I can't tell you how many times I've been approached by people who say "I love your car, especially the color". No one else that I know of is doing a light green. And I was very disappointed when Fiat changed their mind about offering another light green known as "Vocal Green" in the UK for the 500L.

Here's a link to the UK Easy, and you can see the Vocal Green over there, all green, black/green, white/green. Try out the white or black wheel covers to match the roof:
http://www.fiat.co.uk/uk/fiat-500l/discover?status=1&car=330|002|0033015R0000|111$-|&opt=&wheel=&packs=

The big difference over there is the black bumper and side molding. Over here, the white top and wheels would look even better, without the black bumper/molding. But the black roof/wheels look really styling with the black bumper/molding.

hollyp
08-29-2013, 10:51 PM
Im so thrilled to have gotten my Lounge last night! 2h at the dealership at the price I wanted! Will have to post pics of the beauty! Mocha Latte with white top! such a dream to drive I tell ya. I'm in heaven....

Indie500L
08-29-2013, 11:13 PM
You do realize that the automatic is really a manual transmission with a computer controlled dual hydraulic clutch and no slipping torque converter - don't write off the automatic but you will pay extra for it and I think you can get one in the Lounge model.

Andree
08-30-2013, 01:17 AM
Im so thrilled to have gotten my Lounge last night! 2h at the dealership at the price I wanted! Will have to post pics of the beauty! Mocha Latte with white top! such a dream to drive I tell ya. I'm in heaven....

Woo hoo! Way to go HollyP!

Sooo, tell us about it!

Andree
08-30-2013, 01:18 AM
You do realize that the automatic is really a manual transmission with a computer controlled dual hydraulic clutch and no slipping torque converter - don't write off the automatic but you will pay extra for it and I think you can get one in the Lounge model.

Lounge only comes with the "Automatic".

DMike
08-30-2013, 12:35 PM
I understand what you are saying, brother. I would have prefered my 500L in Verde Chiaro, Bianco Perla, or Rossa Perla. And the white top contrasting with the black windows truly displays the design of the top well. But, alas, the 500L does not come in those traditional colors. So, we settled on the Bianco Trekking with Bianco top. The dark colors such as black and forest green, we felt, were too dark for this small car, especially with the black top. And we were sick of forest green after seeing it on so many cars during the 1980's in the US.
So, yes, give us traditional Tuscany colors!

hollyp
08-31-2013, 11:14 AM
WEll! The transmission does feel like an automatic at times without having to move the clutch. but after 2h filling out paperwork at dealership I drove home with my baby! So exciting! The twins love riding in the back, I dont regret anything about the purchase, it is super fun to drive, stereo rocks and the sirius is free for a year. I really love this color, it is so uncommon and the white top makes it. It is such a classy little/big car, I do feel like im sitting up a little, especially when you adjust the seat to be higher. It has everything I need! Im just so happy about my purchase, if anyone has questions they can ask away!!

Andree
08-31-2013, 12:10 PM
WEll! The transmission does feel like an automatic at times without having to move the clutch. but after 2h filling out paperwork at dealership I drove home with my baby! So exciting! The twins love riding in the back, I dont regret anything about the purchase, it is super fun to drive, stereo rocks and the sirius is free for a year. I really love this color, it is so uncommon and the white top makes it. It is such a classy little/big car, I do feel like im sitting up a little, especially when you adjust the seat to be higher. It has everything I need! Im just so happy about my purchase, if anyone has questions they can ask away!!

Even the twins approve!!! I don't know what you were driving before, but how is the access for loading kids? I don't know if they're little ones or big ones, so maybe there are child seats involved? Plenty of room for the seats?

Kids (in my experience, and from memories of being one) like to look out. They have PLENTY of places to look out in the 500L.

I know you'd mentioned the interior looking durable on the Trekking, how do you feel about the interior of the Lounge now that you have it?

I love the contrast roof on the Mocha Latte. In white or black. I like the black on the Easy with the black/tan interior. And I like the white on the Lounge with the tan/gray interior and the white wheels. Did you get the white wheels? I know the one in Van Nuys had them, did yours?

hollyp
08-31-2013, 10:27 PM
Andree, the twins totally approve! They are 8 and in booster seat and there is sooo much leg room its ridiculous! in and out easily, they can look out easily, inside leather is going to be fine, having the perma coat stuff put on will help, the car came with that, and lojack, or I would not have gotten them. I love the white roof on the mocha latte for sure, and got the white wheels! I really wanted those although they are already a little dirty. I purchased from duarte fiat and told them about the price in van nuts and they matched it! without any fuss at all whatsoever. Such a smooth easy transaction I couldnt believe it. Not like my experience buying my first jetta in 2000. The view from the front is wide and open, Im sure at times I'll wish I had the sunroof but when its weather like this week I'll be glad I didnt so that will be a tradeoff. Someone mentioned you could tint the sunroof darker which I thought was a great idea! Thanks again for the tip in van nuys as that set me on my way, you are awesome!!!
Holly

Andree
09-01-2013, 05:22 PM
Andree, the twins totally approve! They are 8 and in booster seat and there is sooo much leg room its ridiculous! in and out easily, they can look out easily, inside leather is going to be fine, having the perma coat stuff put on will help, the car came with that, and lojack, or I would not have gotten them. I love the white roof on the mocha latte for sure, and got the white wheels! I really wanted those although they are already a little dirty. I purchased from duarte fiat and told them about the price in van nuts and they matched it! without any fuss at all whatsoever. Such a smooth easy transaction I couldnt believe it. Not like my experience buying my first jetta in 2000. The view from the front is wide and open, Im sure at times I'll wish I had the sunroof but when its weather like this week I'll be glad I didnt so that will be a tradeoff. Someone mentioned you could tint the sunroof darker which I thought was a great idea! Thanks again for the tip in van nuys as that set me on my way, you are awesome!!!
Holly

All good news!

Plenty of room for the kids at they grow, and for a couple of their friends too. If you want to do the big warehouse shopping trips, you have room for that, and then some. Or IKEA-type trips. Anything that was big and bulky you can now pick up yourself.

I recently had to get a vacuum, it came in a huge box, and it fit fine in my regular 500. But if I'd gotten anything else in a huge box, I would have been stuck, because of the odd dimensions of the vacuum box. In your 500L, you could fit a bunch of those boxes!

There's a lot of "freedom" when you have a car that has the space. That giant houseplant or the bookcases, they fit.

You'll have many happy years in your new 500L!

Jalpa_Mike
09-02-2013, 12:29 PM
Andree:

Thought I'd give you a quick update (and a question)

We signed the paperwork on our 500L on Friday night and dropped off our 500 Sport in trade. We now have a loaner 500 Pop until our new 500L gets trucked up here to Washington in about 2 weeks!

We finally located a yellow Trekking" that had the 6-speed manual, dual-climate zone & Beats options. Only thing it didn't have was the painted roof option (black), which the dealer is going to handle after the car arrives.

The question I have: I notice in the 500L sales brochure (and owners manual) that the Trekking comes with Homelink as part of the Popular Group" option. However, I thought I've read elsewhere that some folks say that it does't come in the car? Do you know if it does if fact come on the Trekking?

Thanks,
Mike

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 03:09 PM
Andree:

Thought I'd give you a quick update (and a question)

We signed the paperwork on our 500L on Friday night and dropped off our 500 Sport in trade. We now have a loaner 500 Pop until our new 500L gets trucked up here to Washington in about 2 weeks!

We finally located a yellow Trekking" that had the 6-speed manual, dual-climate zone & Beats options. Only thing it didn't have was the painted roof option (black), which the dealer is going to handle after the car arrives.

The question I have: I notice in the 500L sales brochure (and owners manual) that the Trekking comes with Homelink as part of the Popular Group" option. However, I thought I've read elsewhere that some folks say that it does't come in the car? Do you know if it does if fact come on the Trekking?

Thanks,
Mike


Where is it coming from,,Ca? When we looked the closest w all options we wanted, there was 1 in California & 1 in Nevada. Which WA dealer are you working with?

We do not have home link on our car yet it's as loaded as it gets I think - its not in the car & not mentioned on the window sticker.

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 03:13 PM
Good find!

Soooooooo???? What did you think of it? Like it more or less?

Love the yellow w black more than w the white.

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 03:17 PM
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Jalpa_Mike
09-02-2013, 05:30 PM
It is coming from California. We had found one (with a black roof) at FIAT of Las Vegas. However, our dealer (FIAT of Tacoma) could not even get them to return the phone call. Very frustrating. Not the best customer service in my book. Seriously, how much effort does it take to return a phone call??? We were just hanging in limbo day after day for a week waiting for some sort of reply which never came. I finally gave up and located another one out of California and turned our dealer onto them and they worked the deal with them last Friday.

Our dealer (FIAT of Tacoma) has been fantastic to work with. All is good now. Just have to wait about 2 to 2 1/2 weeks for FIAT of Tacoma to send down a car they are exchanging for ours and bring it back up.

We are paying MSRP, plus about $500 in shipping to get the car up here. Yeah, its a pain in the rump to have to pay extra, but hey, when you are used to paying $10,000.00 for a clutch on a Countach, FIAT prices pale in comparison! LOL!



Where is it coming from,,Ca? When we looked the closest w all options we wanted, there was 1 in California & 1 in Nevada. Which WA dealer are you working with?

We do not have home link on our car yet it's as loaded as it gets I think - its not in the car & not mentioned on the window sticker.

Andree
09-02-2013, 05:44 PM
Andree:

Thought I'd give you a quick update (and a question)

We signed the paperwork on our 500L on Friday night and dropped off our 500 Sport in trade. We now have a loaner 500 Pop until our new 500L gets trucked up here to Washington in about 2 weeks!

We finally located a yellow Trekking" that had the 6-speed manual, dual-climate zone & Beats options. Only thing it didn't have was the painted roof option (black), which the dealer is going to handle after the car arrives.

The question I have: I notice in the 500L sales brochure (and owners manual) that the Trekking comes with Homelink as part of the Popular Group" option. However, I thought I've read elsewhere that some folks say that it does't come in the car? Do you know if it does if fact come on the Trekking?

Thanks,
Mike

Great to hear! I thought you were getting the one in Vegas with the white roof!

I'm looking in the User's Guide on page 61. It mentions HomeLink and how to program it. It specifically says:

• The HomeLink® buttons that are located in the sunvisor designate the three different HomeLink® channels.
• The HomeLink® indicator is located above the center button.

Also from page 61:

• If you have any problems, or require assistance, please call toll-free 1–800–355–3515 or, on the Internet at www.HomeLink.com for information or assistance.

Here's the page for North America:
http://www.homelink.com/home/welcome

They show buttons on the center roof console. They also show mirrors with the buttons. And there's a headliner install too.

Checking their Program section, and clicking on an option, the site asks me "What vehicle will you be programming?" and it does have Fiat 500 2014 in there. It doesn't say 500L. But neither do all the dealerships, LOL.

Soooo, let's see what is on the site here:

Possible part number for a visor with the buttons for the 500L
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?11580-FIAT-500L-Drivers-Side-Sun-Visor&highlight=homelink

DIY install of aftermarket mirror/homelink in a regular 500 (I think)
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?4064-Homelink-Mirror-amp-LED-Dome-Light&highlight=homelink

It certainly looks like you can have it installed in one of the many forms, if the vehicle does not come with it. It could be a dealer installed option, if there's a part number for it.

Check with your dealer to ask about the units they carry, or what is available. You won't be the only one who would like the HomeLink in your 500L, and the dealer should either have genuine Fiat parts, or aftermarket parts, or at least a source that has the parts and where to have them installed.

The service personnel will often have contacts with many other places. There will be some guy/gal or some business that does exactly what you want.

Jalpa_Mike
09-02-2013, 06:31 PM
Great to hear! I thought you were getting the one in Vegas with the white roof!

That one sold! When FIAT of Tacoma tried to inquire about the Yellow w/Black roof, that is when all the issues started........

It will be interesting to see if Homelink is on the Trekking once it arrives. We've had cars that had the buttons on the rear view mirror (2006 Saab 9-5), and we've had them on the sunvisor (2005 Maserati Quattroporte).

Like you said, I'm sure someone can install it after the fact. I just thought it was so weird that FIAT mentions it in their sales literature and in the owners manual. Maybe its a carry-over from the European market too...... I know Homelink is used over there as well.....

Here is a snaphot from the Sales Literature.

Mike

Andree
09-02-2013, 06:35 PM
I understand what you are saying, brother. I would have prefered my 500L in Verde Chiaro, Bianco Perla, or Rossa Perla. And the white top contrasting with the black windows truly displays the design of the top well. But, alas, the 500L does not come in those traditional colors. So, we settled on the Bianco Trekking with Bianco top. The dark colors such as black and forest green, we felt, were too dark for this small car, especially with the black top. And we were sick of forest green after seeing it on so many cars during the 1980's in the US.
So, yes, give us traditional Tuscany colors!

I like the regular glossy white, or glossy colors in general over metallic/pearl paint. I would have liked to see the Trekking model in particular in a glossy brown. Closer to the interior brown.

And I'm still pouting about Fiat withholding the black/white interior combo in the US market. A totally natural choice to use with the black over white or white over black cars. Especially nice with your all-white.

Andree
09-02-2013, 06:40 PM
That one sold! When FIAT of Tacoma tried to inquire about the Yellow w/Black roof, that is when all the issues started........

It will be interesting to see if Homelink is on the Trekking once it arrives. We've had cars that had the buttons on the rear view mirror (2006 Saab 9-5), and we've had them on the sunvisor (2005 Maserati Quattroporte).

Like you said, I'm sure someone can install it after the fact. I just thought it was so weird that FIAT mentions it in their sales literature and in the owners manual. Maybe its a carry-over from the European market too...... I know Homelink is used over there as well.....

Mike

Fiat has the Bose system listed in my manual, saying there's a subwoofer under the passenger seat. No, there isn't, they changed that for 2013, and it's a different Alpine system, no subwoofer anywhere. So, yes, it could be hold-overs from another market, or something they plan on offering on a future model, or as an accessory.

Did you ask about the dash in your Trekking? Did you have a preference between the matte gray and the gloss black?

Andree
09-02-2013, 06:57 PM
That one sold! When FIAT of Tacoma tried to inquire about the Yellow w/Black roof, that is when all the issues started........

It will be interesting to see if Homelink is on the Trekking once it arrives. We've had cars that had the buttons on the rear view mirror (2006 Saab 9-5), and we've had them on the sunvisor (2005 Maserati Quattroporte).

Like you said, I'm sure someone can install it after the fact. I just thought it was so weird that FIAT mentions it in their sales literature and in the owners manual. Maybe its a carry-over from the European market too...... I know Homelink is used over there as well.....

Here is a snaphot from the Sales Literature.

Mike

Ahhh, interesting. Notice it says on the top that it's with Popular Equipment...but on the bottom it says it comes only with the "Visibility/Protection Group" or "Convenience Group" or even the "Safety/Security and Convenience Group". None of which are the "Popular Equipment".

So...
1. Fiat messed up
2. None of the cars currently have those packages
3. Those packages are not available to add to vehicles via the Fiat site
4. Those packages would have been available if Fiat had not offered the free "Premium" packages that already include the ParkSense Rear Park etc...

It could be, the way Fiat does things, that the Popular Equipment would have required one of the additional packages, making the statement "comes with Popular Equipment" true. Or that the additional packages would have required "Popular Equipment".

Jalpa_Mike
09-02-2013, 06:57 PM
Fiat has the Bose system listed in my manual, saying there's a subwoofer under the passenger seat. No, there isn't, they changed that for 2013, and it's a different Alpine system, no subwoofer anywhere. So, yes, it could be hold-overs from another market, or something they plan on offering on a future model, or as an accessory.

Did you ask about the dash in your Trekking? Did you have a preference between the matte gray and the gloss black?

No, I didn't ask about the dash. From what I've seen looking at photos on the internet, the only time I've ever since the gloss black dash, is when the Trekking had the "White Roof" option. If its the "Black Roof" or has the roof same color as the car, it seems like it is the matte gray look.

Sounds like this Homelink thing might be just like the "Cooling Glovebox" thing too! I've read the threads where people have the dial/receptacle, but no hose connected.

Andree
09-02-2013, 07:12 PM
No, I didn't ask about the dash. From what I've seen looking at photos on the internet, the only time I've ever since the gloss black dash, is when the Trekking had the "White Roof" option. If its the "Black Roof" or has the roof same color as the car, it seems like it is the matte gray look.

Sounds like this Homelink thing might be just like the "Cooling Glovebox" thing too! I've read the threads where people have the dial/receptacle, but no hose connected.

There I was thinking you had discovered the key to the mystery dash. And looking at a few just now, it was pretty much true. This one is all green, and has the gloss dash:
http://www.ocfiat.com/new/FIAT/2014-FIAT-500L-7d975db60a0a00650133a2a81f017e2b.htm

At least it's mostly true, and that will help people find whichever they want.

Hey, people have hooked up their glovebox!!! It's possible!

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 07:47 PM
The book also states that to flip the seat up (not fold down but flip up after folded down) that you first use the seat back lever on to of seat to fold it down then use the recliner lever (outside lower edge of seat) to flip the seat. We tried like crazy today, nothing worked, we needed to flip the seat to put in the Weathertech cargo mat. Finally we tried the seat back lever, yup, worked like a champ - folds it forward then when you lift again it flips the seat.

Their books are a bit goofy. As for home link, it's not shown at all in the "driver cockpit" pages that discusses buttons & lights, only on the page to how to program.

Our Nero w black roof trekking has glossy black, which looks great but I think now I would have preferred the grey (like exterior trim) instead. Gloss black shows everything.

And for what it's worth, Mcguair's Quick Detail does an amazing job of brining out exterior color after washing the car. Spray on (little goes a long way) and wipe off with a microfiber towel. Takes 15min. Amazing stuff. I also ordered Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine (aka ONR) for this winter when I don't want to take so much time to wash the car. I plan to clean with ONR then use Quick Detail to finish.

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 08:01 PM
I've heard good &'bad about both Tacoma & Kirkland. We bought thruKirkland, very pleased w the level of attention & service we received from them. We will probably use them for majority of our service since we stay in Bellevue when we are in Seattle area (we live near Portland now but are from Seattle area & visit family often that is there still).

Jalpa_Mike
09-02-2013, 08:11 PM
I've heard good &'bad about both Tacoma & Kirkland. We bought thruKirkland, very pleased w the level of attention & service we received from them. We will probably use them for majority of our service since we stay in Bellevue when we are in Seattle area (we live near Portland now but are from Seattle area & visit family often that is there still).

We bought our 2012 500 Sport through FIAT of Kirkland. At the time, they were the only dealer in the Northwest! Tacoma is closer for us now. Kirkland is 45+ miles away. Tacoma is like 18 miles. The closest now is FIAT of Southcenter, but they only had 1 Trekking in stock when we were looking.

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 08:21 PM
Did your trekking come w an block heater? Ours did, kinda curious to rest it out this winter.

Jalpa_Mike
09-02-2013, 08:49 PM
Did your trekking come w an block heater? Ours did, kinda curious to rest it out this winter.

No block heater. I know the one we were trying to get out of Vegas had one. However, the one we got doesn't have the option. We wanted to get the heated front seats, but for some odd reason the only way to get them in the Trekking is to get the Sunroof option! We'll have the heated seats added later once we get closer to winter.

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 09:04 PM
No block heater. I know the one we were trying to get out of Vegas had one. However, the one we got doesn't have the option. We wanted to get the heated front seats, but for some odd reason the only way to get them in the Trekking is to get the Sunroof option! We'll have the heated seats added later once we get closer to winter.

It's crazy how restrictive w options Fiat is - sunroof but no white or black roof (unless white or black body then it's color matched), get sunroof & you can have heated seats. We liked the roomie feel & light the sunroof gave us so we opted for the sunroof. With that we ended up w a fully loaded (as loaded as Fiat allows) trekking.

Luv2byte
09-02-2013, 09:23 PM
I wish Fiat had remote start & electronic hatch open/close.

Curious
09-03-2013, 06:27 PM
It's crazy how restrictive w options Fiat is - sunroof but no white or black roof (unless white or black body then it's color matched), get sunroof & you can have heated seats. We liked the roomie feel & light the sunroof gave us so we opted for the sunroof. With that we ended up w a fully loaded (as loaded as Fiat allows) trekking.

Did you know that if you want a spare tire then you have to get heated seats? It's true. No clue what the logic is.

Luv2byte
09-03-2013, 06:52 PM
Did you know that if you want a spare tire then you have to get heated seats? It's true. No clue what the logic is.

Your also not allowed the tire pump & spare tire, either or but not both. I like the idea of the pump to get you by until you get to tire store...especially for women (or men) in business clothes on side of dirty hwy or in inclement weather.

Curious
09-03-2013, 07:05 PM
Trust me a pump will do you no good if you hit a curb and put a hole the size of a quarter in a tire. Only fix for that is to put on the spare, if you happen to have one. My dealer could not find a car for me with a spare. So I got one with the tire inflator and I also paid for a mini spare. They install that on my car as soon as Fiat comes out with them. They have them now but they were made wrong, really no kidding.

But I will get it one day soon and I will then have both the inflator and the spare, kinda like wearing suspenders and a belt.

Luv2byte
09-03-2013, 07:50 PM
Trust me a pump will do you no good if you hit a curb and put a hole the size of a quarter in a tire. Only fix for that is to put on the spare, if you happen to have one. My dealer could not find a car for me with a spare. So I got one with the tire inflator and I also paid for a mini spare. They install that on my car as soon as Fiat comes out with them. They have them now but they were made wrong, really no kidding.

But I will get it one day soon and I will then have both the inflator and the spare, kinda like wearing suspenders and a belt.

What I'm saying is I want both, not just the spare tire but both...nice option to have if needed.

Curious
09-03-2013, 08:14 PM
The only way to get both is to do what I did. Get a car with the inflator and no spare and add the spare later. Or get a car with a spare and with heated seats and add the inflator later.

n00dle
09-03-2013, 08:53 PM
My trekking came with a spare tire without heated seats. I added an inflator and a repair kit that I had laying around. My first choice would be the easier and less hassle route depending on the damage to the tire and that would be to plug the hole with the repair kit. If the damage is beyond a temporary plug repair then having a spare tire is the added reassurance I'll be on my way soon.

Curious
09-03-2013, 09:18 PM
Great to hear you managed to do that. Per the Fiat build and price system you are supposed to have to get the heated seats to get the mini spare. I guess their system is not totally accurate.

n00dle
09-03-2013, 09:50 PM
It's how the car came, I didn't spec it out. I'm noticing a number of Trekkings that are coming with spares without the heated seats. But yes their configurator is kinda wonky.

Indie500L
09-03-2013, 11:59 PM
Imagine my surprise that the 500L Lounge does not come with a jack! Lets say that the tire goes flat and breaks the bead sitting on the ground and the only way to reinflate it is to get it off the ground and let the bead seat as you pump it up with the compressor - no jack!

Jalpa_Mike
09-15-2013, 12:13 PM
Woo-Hoo!

Picked up our new Trekking last night!

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Tweak
09-15-2013, 02:14 PM
Woo-Hoo!

Picked up our new Trekking last night!

78997900

Congrats!

Andree
09-15-2013, 06:04 PM
Yay Jalpa_Mike! Many adventures lie ahead!

Jalpa_Mike
09-15-2013, 10:55 PM
Now we just need to find what accessories we want to add to the outside!! like the chrome spear on the hood, the Italian flag badges for the front fenders, black mirror caps, etc.. ThrashinSmiley

Jalpa_Mike
09-16-2013, 12:26 PM
The Trekking looks right at home with her two other Italian brothers! biggrin

Andree
09-16-2013, 07:05 PM
Now we just need to find what accessories we want to add to the outside!! like the chrome spear on the hood, the Italian flag badges for the front fenders, black mirror caps, etc.. ThrashinSmiley

It's a Trekking, it has the brushed chrome accents, right? I don't think the hood spear comes in brushed chrome. And in that case, I wouldn't add it. Trekking is supposed to be "rugged" looking. Shiny chrome is more for the other models that have the shiny chrome. Like Mario500L's car: http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?11811-Chrome-Hood-Spear-Anyone&p=628328&viewfull=1#post628328

For yours, I'd go black. You have the side accents in black and brushed chrome. This would look good with the yellow and the black/brushed chrome and the wheels:
http://moparonlineparts.com/fiat-500l-emblems-decals-black-silver-stripes-w500-logo-p-4180.html

Add the black mirror caps. That's all you need.

Andree
09-16-2013, 07:12 PM
Head over to the post I made with the 500L video, where you can see some of the graphics put on the yellow 500L within the first minute:
http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?10769-Moparize-your-Fiat-500L-%28Europe%29&highlight=moparize