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trevc
08-18-2013, 06:06 PM
I recently purchased a Schroth Rally 3 harness for my Abarth from RoadRace Motorsports.
It did not come with any installation instructions but a quick call to RoadRace and I had the details on how they install them.
I thought I would make a post here with that information.

Since installing the harness I have competed in two Autocross events. The harness makes a huge difference. I no longer have to worry about trying to brace myself in the car so I don't get thrown around. I can now focus more on the driving.

The picture of it installed shows the optional shoulder pads and harness grips that I purchased from Schroth Racing on the recommendation of RedRed. They make it more comfortable and make it a lot easier to tighten the belts.


To install you need just a 6mm hex socket

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/1-1tool_zps5c590642.jpg

The harness

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/1harness_zps3ea209bb.jpg


The tail strap

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/2tailstrap_zpsb1a9038c.jpg

The tail strap will attach to the rear child seat attachment point in the seat behind the drivers seat. Either the left or right attachment point can be used.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/3childseat_zpsef279dba.jpg


Attach using the carabiner that RoadRace includes with the harness.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/4attachtail_zpsabfed908.jpg


Next, attach the right lap belt to the right rear drivers seat mounting bolt - 6mm hex socket head bolt.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/4rightstrap_zpsa722cbfb.jpg


Next attach the left lap belt to the left rear drivers seat mounting bolt.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/5leftstrap_zps6f4223dd.jpg


Feed the shoulder belts through the drivers seat headrest, attach to the tail strap and you are done!

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y413/Trevor_Cotton/Abarth/Harness/6installed_zps6e59595a.jpg


The beauty of this belt is that when you are not at the race track, just disconnect the shoulder belts from the tail strap. Then, you can just stow it all in the foot well behind the drivers seat and use your regular seat belt. A couple more minutes and you can easily have the tail strap removed so someone can use the rear drivers side seat.

The local SCCA and Porsche Club of America technical inspectors approved the belt installation.

Thanks RoadRace and RedRed!

Apologies for the quality of the pictures - my camera focus is having issues.

dylansi
08-18-2013, 06:23 PM
Great write up. Should be a sticky.

They look comfortable and supportive.

redred
08-18-2013, 07:47 PM
Great tutorial! They look great in the Nero car with the red pads! Nice choice!

Only thing I would add is the harness grips, while a must have, are a huge pain in the butt to install after the fact. They are really hard to push together and I had to use a wood working vice to close them. Once in though, they make it MUCH easier to tighten the straps (especially when wearing driving gloves)

FTY
08-18-2013, 08:07 PM
Good stuff, they really look they will hold you in the seat nicely when throwing the car into corners!! Nice write-up!

Robert Nixon
08-18-2013, 08:16 PM
Very cool, does this keep you in STC for SCCA?

Also, just to clarify for my small brain, the right seat strap fastens onto the rear of the driver seat rail? (and not the rear or back seat something-or-other)

trevc
08-18-2013, 08:23 PM
Thank you for pointing that out. Reading again it again it does sound confusing.
The lap belts mount on the right rear drivers seat mounting bolt and the left rear drivers seat mounting bolt.
Installation does not affect classification for NASA or SCCA as they are purely safety devices.

Very cool, does this keep you in STC for SCCA?

Also, just to clarify for my small brain, the right seat strap fastens onto the rear of the driver seat rail? (and not the rear or back seat something-or-other)

Jjm4life
08-18-2013, 09:24 PM
How do they feel? I cant imagine harnesses for these lazy boy style seats. Must be a weird fit compared to a true race chair.

trevc
08-19-2013, 09:25 AM
For me it is a big improvement over using the stock seat belt.
Keeps me solid in the seat for the 1 to 2 minute long autocross circuits.
I have never raced in a true race seat so I can't make a comparison. I am sure they would be much better; that's why they are so much more expensive!


How do they feel? I cant imagine harnesses for these lazy boy style seats. Must be a weird fit compared to a true race chair.

BigDaddySRT
08-19-2013, 09:46 AM
How do they feel? I cant imagine harnesses for these lazy boy style seats. Must be a weird fit compared to a true race chair.

There's major reasons why you are not allowed to use "Harnesses" with a Seat that does not have a Fixed Seat Back.


I'll go back into my corner now.

Saxonite
08-21-2013, 10:59 PM
I've been curious how these were to be attached. I assumed the tail strap would be mounted to the c pillar like most other 3 point harness installs I have seen. Knowing that you use a winch ring to secure it makes me wish that it was a 4 point and it attached to both points on the rear seats. At the end of next month I'll be taking my car on its first weekend car trip and I'm curious to see how truly pushing the car will affect the grip of the seats. I do have the cloth seats which help but this could be something that gets added to the parts list in the coming weeks.

BigDaddySRT
08-22-2013, 01:06 PM
I've been curious how these were to be attached. I assumed the tail strap would be mounted to the c pillar like most other 3 point harness installs I have seen. Knowing that you use a winch ring to secure it makes me wish that it was a 4 point and it attached to both points on the rear seats. At the end of next month I'll be taking my car on its first weekend car trip and I'm curious to see how truly pushing the car will affect the grip of the seats. I do have the cloth seats which help but this could be something that gets added to the parts list in the coming weeks.

Read the Schroth Installation and Operation Manual... you never connect to the C-Pillars.

Saxonite
08-22-2013, 03:47 PM
Read the Schroth Installation and Operation Manual... you never connect to the C-Pillars.

For the Rallye 3 harness it is one of the recommended mounting points. I just looked at their website again to confirm.

ScorpionQueen
08-11-2014, 04:31 PM
thanks for the pictures! I will be installing mine this weekend :chuncky:

Gundy
08-11-2014, 06:08 PM
I think this is my next mod. They look comfortable and the seats look made for the belts.
Thanks for this whole thread.

Bomiz
08-12-2014, 01:23 AM
I think this is my next mod. They look comfortable and the seats look made for the belts.
Thanks for this whole thread.

Yup, going to order some as well (seeking alternatives)

ScorpionQueen
08-16-2014, 02:35 PM
how are you getting around the warning seatbelt chime?

Bomiz
08-16-2014, 05:04 PM
how are you getting around the warning seatbelt chime?

I just ordered harnesses, but i'm sure if you use something like this you're fine: http://shop.500madness.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=371

of course need to find a way cheaper one.. $20 is pretty absurd

edit: problem solved http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Car-Real-Carbon-Fiber-Safty-Seat-Belt-Buckle-Stopper-Alarm-Canceler-/370815592974?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AFiat&hash=item565654ea0e&vxp=mtr

Abarth Fun
08-16-2014, 05:34 PM
Thanks for the pictures and the write up Trevc. I've been interested in this harness for a little while and am thinking of getting a pair. However, I did a rear seat delete and therefore don't have the aft mounting locations that the system is designed for.

Does anybody have an experience with adding one of these harnesses without a rear seat?

Bomiz
08-16-2014, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the pictures and the write up Trevc. I've been interested in this harness for a little while and am thinking of getting a pair. However, I did a rear seat delete and therefore don't have the aft mounting locations that the system is designed for.

Does anybody have an experience with adding one of these harnesses without a rear seat?

You need a Harness bar in the back, you can run other harness's as well when you have the bar.

BigDaddySRT
08-18-2014, 08:21 AM
You need a Harness bar in the back, you can run other harness's as well when you have the bar.

Use the Rear Outboard Belt Bolt Points, and put the Inboard Female Connectors back in the car... run a set of Schroth Direct Fit Harnesses for the R53 MINI.

trevc
08-18-2014, 11:58 AM
I now have the TuneRS roll bar/harness bar so I switched to the Scroth RallyCross harness with the wrap ends on the tail straps.