View Full Version : 5W40 oil for the Abarth

07-30-2013, 04:31 PM
Sorry, this may be a dumb question, but here goes anyway. It's time for my first oil change. Oil filler cap recommends 5W40 full synthetic. 10W40 (several brands of it) is the only type conveniently available. Since I'm only driving the car during the summer months and not driving in freezing conditions, is there anything bad about going to the heavier oil?

Normally I wouldn't think twice about it, but with the multi-air engine so heavily dependent on the hydraulics to operate the valves and such, I'd rather get some educated advice from the folks familiar with the newer tech before launching into something I'll regret later.


Thank you!

07-30-2013, 04:39 PM
This issue has been beaten to death on several forums and not just limited to the Abarths or Fiat for that matter. People would tell you otherwise but I would stick with what is OEM approved which in this case is only Pennzoil 5w-40 Euro so far. Before the change, Mobil1 0w-40 was acceptable but ExxonMobil I think lost the rights for Chrysler.

07-30-2013, 04:53 PM
definitely stick with the factory recommended oil weight. I have debated this as well since I live in south florida and have to regularly deal with temperatures above 90F. The abarth motor needs that specific weight especially maintain proper lubrication of the turbo. I was told by my service manager to use the recommended factory grade.

07-30-2013, 08:07 PM
This issue has been beaten to death on several forums and not just limited to the Abarths or Fiat for that matter. People would tell you otherwise but I would stick with what is OEM approved which in this case is only Pennzoil 5w-40 Euro so far.

Please fellas, let's stop this continuing misinformation campaign about motor oils and what is "OEM approved." Big difference between what is "certified" and what is "approved." It does new owners a disservice to continue to promulgate falsehoods. No Abarth manual that I am aware of expressly states the use of Pennzoil 5W-40, which would seem reasonably expected if it was the only "OEM approved" motor oil for the car.

This has been discussed ad naseum here. Lately, http://www.fiat500usaforum.com/showthread.php?10577-Motul-5w40-Fiat-Approved-!-A-list-of-other-Synthetic-Oil-Specs-(5w40)&highlight=rotella

MrFiat, As long as your motor oil is 5W-40 and API-approved, you'll be fine. I personally recommend Rotella T6 but there are other fine oils available that will meet your needs. I just had my first oil change (4K) and brought in Rotella and my service manager didn't even raise an eyebrow.

07-30-2013, 08:13 PM
I only say that for the sake of simplicity. Any oil from the owner's manual will work. If you change your own oil then your oil choices are as such. Dealerships on the other hand are more limited (usually Pennzoil 5w-40 or in some cases Mobil1).

07-30-2013, 10:30 PM
You cannot go wrong with Rotella T6 or oil from the dealer.

07-31-2013, 03:18 PM
I have been using Amsoil since it came out in 1974. Thats 21 automobiles including race cars and family cars. I called Amsoil technical and asked them the question of which if any oil that meets Chryslers Ms-6395 oil specs for Abarth turbo's. He told me that that number is for the non-turbo'd fiat 4 cylinder. Ms-10896 is the requirement for the American'ized Turbo with the letter 'T' in the vin. They make an oil specifically for that car. It's called European Car Formula 5W-40. He say's that as always their oils exceed OEM requirements. It also states on the back of the bottle.."designed for the extended drain intervals established by European car manufacturers...excellent for turbochargers." It doesn't list Ferrari specs, but it does list BMW LL-04,Mercedes Benz 229.51/229.31 and Porsche A-40. They have always warranted that if reccomended maintenance is followed using their product and an engine failure occurs they will replace the engine. The dealer told me this same thing in 1974, and I've never used any thing else.

07-31-2013, 03:26 PM
And here we go again. :beer: :popcorn:

07-31-2013, 03:47 PM
Is that coke or oil your ingesting??!!

07-31-2013, 04:33 PM
Is that coke or oil your ingesting??!!

Beer and popcorn.

08-03-2013, 09:58 AM
So far so good with Mobil1 0w-40EURO here.

08-04-2013, 12:42 PM
Beer and popcorn.

Laddie, dinnie shame Guinness by calling it beer!

08-04-2013, 12:49 PM
laddie, dinnie shame guinness by calling it beer!


08-05-2013, 11:14 AM
I just did my second oil change, I have been using the recommended 5w-40 Pennzoil

Vaejovis carolinanus aka lowconabarth
08-29-2013, 05:56 PM
I was not paying careful attention when ordering my oil this time and I got a slightly different one. So I have 2 qts left over of this 7633and 6 qts of this 7634. I will not have to mix this time but should I next oil change?

08-29-2013, 06:14 PM
Go For it. As long as you are sticking with same weight and it's synthetic, even FIAT will be happy.