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MADNESSLuckyJay
07-15-2013, 05:31 PM
Got some pics from Jack Murray, check out the FIAT tearing up the track!

http://i.imgur.com/Y6YQQsX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ps9jJBy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/b3CUZvl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nIUNIMW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NEZGCd0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ohFOYUj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pTgdWtL.jpg

MADNESSLuckyJay
07-15-2013, 05:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EfUa26O.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Du6qb0a.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WAbfvzd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/N1dAlnA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nhOHSH4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/M7ajM6d.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2GewKdZ.jpg

MADNESSLuckyJay
07-15-2013, 05:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6qLZoHu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wTQRXdi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/n7kV2tO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WajCZ5K.jpg

Robert Nixon
07-15-2013, 08:02 PM
Nice! What race series is this for regular 500s?

Corrnaus
07-15-2013, 11:38 PM
Nice! What race series is this for regular 500s?

Pirelli World Challenge Touring Car B-Spec class

trevc
07-16-2013, 09:54 AM
I like the way they did that full cage without cutting into the dash.

shagghie
07-16-2013, 11:30 AM
Inside front wheel lift pics are gorgeous... great photography of this car. Inside rear lift is easy, but inside front #skillz #grip

AnthonyV
09-06-2013, 07:14 PM
Nice! Any links to what all is done to this particular car part's and set up wise?

Jack Murray Racing
09-07-2013, 02:14 PM
Hi this is Jack.

I really don't care for the cage the way it is built. It blocks the instrument cluster and makes the gauges hard to see. During the race or other on track sessions the crew chief will usually ask for engine vitals and with the cage the way it is the view is obsecured making it difficult to read the instruments.

Jack Murray Racing
09-07-2013, 02:17 PM
All of the ars in this class tend to get up on 2 wheels. Last race at Sonoma one of the Fiesta's ended up on the roof. Of course my teammate has been upside down Twice. At Lime rock one of the Mazda's rolled 5 times. Two wheels looks cool but i'ts not fast.

Jack Murray Racing
09-07-2013, 02:21 PM
All of the cars have a bspec kit which includes springs shocks and sway bars. Ride height is limited to a minimum of 4 inches and we all run the Pirelli P- Zero slick. Camber is limited to max of 2.5 .

Tweak
09-07-2013, 10:59 PM
Hi this is Jack.

I really don't care for the cage the way it is built. It blocks the instrument cluster and makes the gauges hard to see. During the race or other on track sessions the crew chief will usually ask for engine vitals and with the cage the way it is the view is obsecured making it difficult to read the instruments.

I'd say the cage is very easily not likable, really dislike the way it blocks the view, guess someone felt it was a need though. Odd.

AnthonyV
09-09-2013, 06:32 PM
B spec racing looks awesome! Looks like it would be a good series to get into that's relatively inexpensive when compared to some other series (I know the words "inexpensive" and "racing" should never be used in the same context haha) . I imagine the car's might be a little easier maybe on consumables like brakes and tires as well?

That cage looks maybe a little like a bolt together kit that was welded together. I know tearing the dash off and trimming it up to get the down tubes through it is a pain in the arse. But it is better in my mind to have them run behind the dash, and the dash tube to run behind it. Also maybe to gusset the tubes to the A pillar's. I'm definitely not a fabricator or cage builder though lol It looks like having the door bar and down tube join right there in front of the dash puts the drivers knee a little close for comfort to it as well, and in a serious wreck could be something to whack your leg on. That's the stuff that would bug me about it I think.

Maybe for the vital gauges you guys could mount some auxiliary one's on that dash bar tube, your water/oil pressure etc.... I know anything that helps keep you from taking your eyes off your driving, or isn't too distracting usually helps.

I've seen a few pictures now of these car's two wheeling. Does that only happen coming off curb's or just in real tight corners? Maybe a touch less roll stiffness in the front bar would help?

You guys running the Bilsteins on this or something else? Just curious. Sorry i know I'm a jabberjaw lol

Jack Murray Racing
09-11-2013, 01:51 PM
B spec racing looks awesome! Looks like it would be a good series to get into that's relatively inexpensive when compared to some other series (I know the words "inexpensive" and "racing" should never be used in the same context haha) . I imagine the car's might be a little easier maybe on consumables like brakes and tires as well?

That cage looks maybe a little like a bolt together kit that was welded together. I know tearing the dash off and trimming it up to get the down tubes through it is a pain in the arse. But it is better in my mind to have them run behind the dash, and the dash tube to run behind it. Also maybe to gusset the tubes to the A pillar's. I'm definitely not a fabricator or cage builder though lol It looks like having the door bar and down tube join right there in front of the dash puts the drivers knee a little close for comfort to it as well, and in a serious wreck could be something to whack your leg on. That's the stuff that would bug me about it I think.

Maybe for the vital gauges you guys could mount some auxiliary one's on that dash bar tube, your water/oil pressure etc.... I know anything that helps keep you from taking your eyes off your driving, or isn't too distracting usually helps.

I've seen a few pictures now of these car's two wheeling. Does that only happen coming off curb's or just in real tight corners? Maybe a touch less roll stiffness in the front bar would help?

You guys running the Bilsteins on this or something else? Just curious. Sorry i know I'm a jabberjaw lol

If you are going to run at club level you can probably do it fairly low priced. Pro level racing figure at least 60k if your going to run the whole series.
World Challeng requires you use the Race Keeper system. They do have a 7" tablet dispaly that works via blue tooth. Guys that use it are not that thrilled with it. We down load the datat into lap top for anlysis. We were suppose to have it,but car owner deciced not to. My personal preference and what we run in our other car is the Traqmate system.
These are not the easiest cars to drive,most of the cars in class have a problem with tipping. Staying off the curbs helps if there very large but to be fast you have to hit some of them.
I'm not a big fan of the cage would have preferred NASCAR bars in the doors. Bar in front of the dash was another cost saving consideration by car owner,not my choice. All of the cars two wheel just the nature of the beast. I actually passed someone while on 2 .

Suspension is provided in a bspec kit by manufacturer. Cars are a blast to drive and the racing is good, Fiat is a little down on power but still fun.

AnthonyV
09-11-2013, 04:36 PM
Just googled, yeah the Traqmate system actually looks pretty good. Fairly reasonable price for the whole kit it looks as well. Even has that nifty digital dash. I'm guessing Racekeeper maybe a supporter for the series though?

Yeah it sure does look like a fun series to race in. I was sold on it when I saw it mentioned in Grassroots I think it might have been awhile back. Look like heaps of fun. Like you said, none of the car's really look like their rocket ships, but there's always something to be said about driving a slow car fast haha. Seems like it would really make you work to keep up your momentum. No HP to make a pass down straights if you screw your exit up haha.

Anyway, good luck out there, and keep her shiny side up!:encouragement: