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dylansi
05-27-2013, 03:39 PM
OK so I am looking to buy a new set of wheels and have some questions before I make that final purchase. Hopefully some of the answers from these questions will help other members along with me. When I say flush fitment I am taking into consideration that the car will be lowered to an extent, but more focus on being flush with the fenders. I like the look of a bigger lip on wheels.

1) I am thinking of moving down to a 15" wheel. I figure this can help with reducing unsprung weight from wheels, purchase price of new tires and added sidewall for some extra cushion over bumps (although this may not help in hard cornering.) I have found some XXRs that are 15"x9" et-0 I can only assume that is way to aggressive. What are some of your opinions on moving to a 15". What size, brand would you recommend to get that flush fitment and low weight while keeping price down? I am open to XXR, Rota, and Drag wheels as I am not looking for the bling factor. Also what would be the correct tire size 195/45? Or could you increase the width without throwing off the speedometer?

2) If I stay at a 16" all the questions above apply. What brand, size is recommended for weight, flush fitment and lower cost.

3) Wobble/Variation bolts- I have read some posts on these and from the majority it seems as if these will not be a problem. This opens up everything 4x100 right?

Thanks in advance. :cheerful:

Abarth Five O
05-27-2013, 04:44 PM
Hey Dylan,
I initially looked at the XXR 15x9s 002, etc. but it only comes in 4x100 so you will have to use wobble bolts. My pro tire/wheel installer advised me against it as one of his customers complained about shimmying at speeds over 50 mph. However, many others swear by them. The other issue is proper fitment so no rubbing or clearance issues of break calipers, rear sway bar mounts, etc. A test fitment of 15s would be ideal, but 16s might be a safer bet. R/R recommended Stance Wheels 16x8s Mindset or Encore for the Abarth w/ no problems with clearance or fitment. Eventually, I went with Neuspeed 17x7.5 for ultra lightweight race look w/ extra clearance in case I wanted to go with bigger brake calipers.

dylansi
05-27-2013, 04:54 PM
Hey Dylan,
I initially looked at the XXR 15x9s 002, etc. but it only comes in 4x100 so you will have to use wobble bolts. My pro tire/wheel installer advised me against it as one of his customers complained about shimmying at speeds over 50 mph. However, many others swear by them. The other issue is proper fitment so no rubbing or clearance issues of break calipers, rear sway bar mounts, etc. A test fitment of 15s would be ideal, but 16s might be a safer bet. R/R recommended Stance Wheels 16x8s Mindset or Encore for the Abarth w/ no problems with clearance or fitment. Eventually, I went with Neuspeed 17x7.5 for ultra lightweight race look w/ extra clearance in case I wanted to go with bigger brake calipers.

Hey how is it going? Yea I looked st those Stance wheels but really wanted more of a lip and possibley the wheel to be red in color with a polished/machined lip. Is anyone here runnig a 15" that has any type of review for that size? Did you order wheels or buy them local here? Did you have the stock 16"s or 17"s?

Just sold my Mugen's a couple weeks ago that I had laying around for almost 4 years, they were forged 18"s weighing in at a low 16lbs.

Abarth Five O
05-27-2013, 05:05 PM
A lot of reg Fiats are running 15s, but I'm not aware of any Abarths w/ 15s. I think the main issue for Abarths is clearance of the rear sway bar. If you have the $$ and sounds like you want a true custom look, you should go with custom 3 piece CCWs or Avante Garde. EC has a few AG wheels on the site. I ordered the wheels through a local dealer and had stock 17s.

dylansi
05-27-2013, 05:25 PM
A lot of reg Fiats are running 15s, but I'm not aware of any Abarths w/ 15s. I think the main issue for Abarths is clearance of the rear sway bar. If you have the $$ and sounds like you want a true custom look, you should go with custom 3 piece CCWs or Avante Garde. EC has a few AG wheels on the site. I ordered the wheels through a local dealer and had stock 17s.

Honestly not looking to spend a ton on wheels, wife already busted my balls on the HCI purchase, so dont want to cause anymore drama there, haha i.e. my reference to xxr, rota and drag. I found those XXR 002s in the 15x9 but only found a et of +0, I know that is not going to happen. Would just like to have that wide, flush fitment with a big lip.

What did you do with your 17"s? I know there are a bunch of tuner shops down in Kalihi that have wheels, I see them all the time on Craigslist.

Abarth Five O
05-27-2013, 06:07 PM
Sold them to a member on the other forum. I'm always selling stuff I don't use any more just to keep the wife happy, lol.

Jjm4life
05-27-2013, 06:08 PM
gotta pay to play. wide, low offset in a 16 4x98 means custom. i went with ccw, love my wheels. have plans to redo them over the winter though...wider and a different color.
16x8 right now.

Seafarer61
05-27-2013, 06:48 PM
I've used variation bolts for decades. Never a problem.. They are designed to be used with hubcentric rings and when done so, work like any other functional lug bolt. Tire Rack finally got around to figuring that out. People get scared away from the term "wobble" but in truth, literally thousands of Italian and German car owners have been using them, trouble-free, for ages. Not sure Five O if that fella was using rings with his variation bolts but I wouldn't rule that out since to not do so would result in exactly the condition described.

My take. 15-inch wheels are the best option for lightweight, offset-ready Abarth aftermarket wheels. More choices there than 16's and 17's. Rota's are fine...ignore the haters. We own Fiats, not Zondas. Try Racing Lab for a good selection. Clearance issues can be dealt with if you want to add spacers (for wheels in the 35-40 offset range) but many of the wheels you're probably interested in will have much lower offsets. Adjust accordingly. The right size tire depends on the width of your wheels but in most cases, you'll want to stay close to 22.9-23.5 inches diameter, giving you the opportunity to lower the car without rubbing issues (if you're going for a flush look).

dylansi
05-27-2013, 07:41 PM
I am loving these right now. http://www.racinglab.com/rota-track-r-0014.html Either the 15" if they will fit or the 16" et is 40mm so I guess I would need some spacers also

nojeebs
05-27-2013, 08:53 PM
Yay to more fitted Fiats in the US! Being that you want a lip...it's going to be an uphill battle. The rotas you posted look ok...would be better if they offered a lower offset. +40 looks with a step lip is no go in terms of making it look flush even with spacers imo.

15x8s sound good once you find the right set...tire size I would say 195x45 would be a nice mild stretch if that's what you're going for. Keep in mind 15s on an Abarth are going to really limit your choices for stanced look due to the calipers/hub clearance. I'd say go with 16s or 17s to widen your choices for something aggressive. Wobble bolts all the way....just be smart when installing and removing them. :)

Welcome to the boards and I wait to see what your final decision is. ^___^

Seafarer61
05-27-2013, 09:05 PM
I am loving these right now. http://www.racinglab.com/rota-track-r-0014.html Either the 15" if they will fit or the 16" et is 40mm so I guess I would need some spacers also

That's one of my own wheel choices. Go ahead and buy 'em so I know if they fit or not. :p

dylansi
05-27-2013, 09:42 PM
Yay to more fitted Fiats in the US! Being that you want a lip...it's going to be an uphill battle. The rotas you posted look ok...would be better if they offered a lower offset. +40 looks with a step lip is no go in terms of making it look flush even with spacers imo.

15x8s sound good once you find the right set...tire size I would say 195x45 would be a nice mild stretch if that's what you're going for. Keep in mind 15s on an Abarth are going to really limit your choices for stanced look due to the calipers/hub clearance. I'd say go with 16s or 17s to widen your choices for something aggressive. Wobble bolts all the way....just be smart when installing and removing them. :)

Welcome to the boards and I wait to see what your final decision is. ^___^

Yep im starting to think that 15's may be a long shot. I wish those Rotas came in a 16x8 at the least even if it was +40. I could work with that.


That's one of my own wheel choices. Go ahead and buy 'em so I know if they fit or not. :p

HAHA Im seriously thinking about it, im trying to find someone that will ship them here at a resonable cost. Racing Lab wants $1000 to ship :crying: I havent checked ebay yet and still need to sort through Amazon. Not sure how that "candy red" will look on a Nero with the red decals

dylansi
05-27-2013, 09:54 PM
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spd2918
05-27-2013, 10:27 PM
I am running 15" Competizone Sport Tuning Monza Wheels. http://fiat500speed.com/products.html
$450 for the set, stock rubber (6.5 wide), perfect flush offset.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff17/spd2918/IMG_20130524_192624_639_zpsbef7d90b.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/spd2918/media/IMG_20130524_192624_639_zpsbef7d90b.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff17/spd2918/IMG_20130524_192559_534_zps95100795.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/spd2918/media/IMG_20130524_192559_534_zps95100795.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff17/spd2918/IMG_20130524_190815_161_zps5af5a669.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/spd2918/media/IMG_20130524_190815_161_zps5af5a669.jpg.html)

nojeebs
05-28-2013, 12:07 AM
Sorry but that photo has been shopped. The owner looks to have had the setup but not how it's sitting in that photo...the rear specifically.

Tweak
05-28-2013, 01:58 AM
Sorry but that photo has been shopped. The owner looks to have had the setup but not how it's sitting in that photo...the rear specifically.

I'd have to agree, I guess if it were on bags it might be close to that but no way is that not a photoshop otherwise.

Abarth Five O
05-28-2013, 02:34 AM
I would agree with NoJeebS, 16x8s with a mild stretch would give more choices, if you don't mind wobble bolts and hub centric rings. XXR has a nice selection of 16x8s as well as Klutch Wheels (in 4x98s).

shagghie
05-28-2013, 02:46 AM
I would agree with NoJeebS, 16x8s with a mild stretch would give more choices, if you don't mind wobble bolts and hub centric rings. XXR has a nice selection of 16x8s as well as Klutch Wheels (in 4x98s).

or 15x8's, too. Cheaper, lighter, and cheaper rubber for the track.
Surprised I haven't seen more Volks, SSR's, Gram Lights, etc on our cars...

2Cool
05-28-2013, 09:25 AM
From my searching the only 15s that will fit are low width and very low offset. The front calipers and torsion bar bracket extend too much to allow much. The Competizione Monzas in 6.5" width and 15mm offset fit, barely. If you go wider you have to use even lower offset to make up for the extra rim width, ending up with a '90s ghetto hoopty look. Or else you are forced into fender flares.

For wider rims you need 16". Going to a "stanced" look on these cars is pretty much a crime, IMHO. Stretching tires to fit wide rims just for the look falls into that same mix, as the farther you get from square on the sidewall the more you impact handling. Far as I know handling is the signature of these cars...

nojeebs
05-28-2013, 09:46 AM
Good thing I got a stack of "get out of jail free" cards then. :-p

I'd say the signature of these cars is the styling. Odd and quirky. Having a performance model offered is a bonus. But I do agree with 2Cool on the 15s. Look into ssr's dylansi they got a bunch of old school style wheels out. If you're hellbent on going with 15s then I'd say you're better off trying to find a good 1 piece wheel with a concave or flat face/no lip/step-lip and then just get spacers to make it all play nice.

dylansi
05-28-2013, 01:19 PM
From my searching the only 15s that will fit are low width and very low offset. The front calipers and torsion bar bracket extend too much to allow much. The Competizione Monzas in 6.5" width and 15mm offset fit, barely. If you go wider you have to use even lower offset to make up for the extra rim width, ending up with a '90s ghetto hoopty look. Or else you are forced into fender flares.

For wider rims you need 16". Going to a "stanced" look on these cars is pretty much a crime, IMHO. Stretching tires to fit wide rims just for the look falls into that same mix, as the farther you get from square on the sidewall the more you impact handling. Far as I know handling is the signature of these cars...

All I am looking to do is go flush with a wide lip. Not any crazy negative camber, super stretched tires or tires poking out from the fenders. From what I am getting in feedback from everyone trying to go 15"s and do this is most likely not going to happen. I will start searching 16"s more and see what I can find. I still really like those Rota Track-R2s just that 40mm offset is the killer of the deal. If they had a 16x8 et30 I would order them immediatley


Good thing I got a stack of "get out of jail free" cards then. :-p

I'd say the signature of these cars is the styling. Odd and quirky. Having a performance model offered is a bonus. But I do agree with 2Cool on the 15s. Look into ssr's dylansi they got a bunch of old school style wheels out. If you're hellbent on going with 15s then I'd say you're better off trying to find a good 1 piece wheel with a concave or flat face/no lip/step-lip and then just get spacers to make it all play nice.

Yep if I cant find anything else I really like I will get those Rotas and add 10mm spacers. But thanks to everyone here I have plenty of wheels from all different manufactures to look up. I dont mind being like you and your car and standing out. Have done the colored wheel route before and think on these cars with the look the have already it would just add that much more to it. Skip the 15"s on to 16"s

shagghie
05-28-2013, 01:30 PM
Good thing I got a stack of "get out of jail free" cards then. :-p

I'd say the signature of these cars is the styling. Odd and quirky. Having a performance model offered is a bonus. But I do agree with 2Cool on the 15s. Look into ssr's dylansi they got a bunch of old school style wheels out. If you're hellbent on going with 15s then I'd say you're better off trying to find a good 1 piece wheel with a concave or flat face/no lip/step-lip and then just get spacers to make it all play nice.

Has anyone tried to fit SSR's, Advans, or any of the Ray's wheels yet in 15"? I understand the rear torsion bar is an issue, but I measured over an inch of clearance between it and the inside of my 17" Abarth wheels. Going down by 2" in wheel diameter, from a layman's perspective, means a decrease in clearance by 1" for that torsion bar, which although cutting it close, should still be OK since it does not move relative to the wheel. I'm estimating about a 1/4" to 3/8" clearance still remaining, depending on how the wheel is manufactured of course. I think RRM sells a Stance wheel in 15", IIRC.
I am still going to try to find a place to fit 15x8" wheels. I've rolled the front fenders, but the rear fenders are SO thin that there's not enough bite surface against the roller to roll them properly. I should have about 5-6mm additional outside clearance of the fender at this point at least. So, as long as the breaks fit, and the rear torsion bar mount sneaks inside the inner circumference of the wheel, is there anything else I need to worry about in terms of rubbing suspension parts? The springs on my CO's are very narrow wound, so hoping I can get away with 15x8's still. Max grip is my key objective...I don't care about stance, but I also don't mind a modest tire stretch either...contrary to popular belief, some stretch can actually increase handling performance as long as too aggressive caber isn't also dialed in. I think the AX Nat Champ last year was running a modest stretch even...something about stiffening the overall sidewall and a more progressive break-away due to the angle of the sidewall that he preferred.

dylansi
05-28-2013, 02:03 PM
^^interesting JDMLand, JHPUSA and PasswordJDM all have lots of choices especially in the 15" range

shagghie
05-28-2013, 02:28 PM
^^interesting JDMLand, JHPUSA and PasswordJDM all have lots of choices especially in the 15" range

evasivemotorsports.com too, or bulletproof.

Wedsports and Works are also on my short list. the 16" Professors are a classic on the Abarth in europe...


basically, anything but these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-inch-AR85-silver-wheels-rims-4x98-fiat-500-abarth-cabrio-lounge-sport-/290779093723

lol

mr_robs
05-28-2013, 02:39 PM
A lot of my friends keep telling me to throw wide 15's on the car, but honestly from the suspension options we have an the geometry we have, i dont think 15's can be pulled off properly. Personally im going to be looking for a monoblock lighter weight wheel in 16" so i can run a tire with some meat, not have to crank down my BC's all the way and still look good. Perhaps a forged 2 or 3 piece, but i really dont think spending that kind of money on wheels that wont be put on a car with anything but motorsport stance is worth it.

just my $0.02

shagghie
05-28-2013, 02:41 PM
still my favorite looking Ab:
http://www.jdmeuro.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Work_Meister_S1_Fiat_500_Abarth_01.jpg

and some other 15" pics I found:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/646/fiat500gz9.jpg

http://motrist.com/images/posts/9/682/9682_m.jpg

http://www.fiat500owners.com/forum/attachments/fiat-500-wheels-tires-suspension/8286d1362848052-wheel-pic-thread-post-pic-your-wheels-here-fiat-500-9.jpg

but yeah... i know it's not functional, but I do have to admit, this is SO clean (16"):
http://guillegarciaalfonsin.es/lpde/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Work_Meister_S1_Fiat_500_Abarth_03.jpg

I mean, we can go smaller than 15" too, but then we end up looking like this:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TPJ117qe8j8/TrDI2ht9PYI/AAAAAAAAKxg/Ea8y1ZAU3j8/s400/Abarth%252520workshop2.jpg

2Cool
05-28-2013, 05:26 PM
We will have to agree to disagree. Please note that these are my own opinions based on several years in performance tire installation at a Tirerack authorized installer, and based on actual handling and real world driveability. Also based on a lot of Solo2 as well as NASA HPDE and other open track experience, plus more driving schools than I can remember. Please also note that I am a 47yo man, so am inherently grumpy and have "get off my lawn" signs.

On that note, any time you have to run a stupid small tire stretched in order to fit inside a fender well, it is ugly, nonfunctional, and can be dangerous. Any time you cannot manage to fit a rim of proper offset and width inside your fender well, it is ugly. Pulling the fenders, flares, are all valid methods to make them fit, assuming proper tire selection and geometry. Half-assing it to just say "look how wide my rims are!" with 9" wide rims with 185 width tires to fit under the car, is stupid.

So most of what you like has me shaking my head.

shagghie
05-28-2013, 05:42 PM
We will have to agree to disagree. Please note that these are my own opinions based on several years in performance tire installation at a Tirerack authorized installer, and based on actual handling and real world driveability. Also based on a lot of Solo2 as well as NASA HPDE and other open track experience, plus more driving schools than I can remember. Please also note that I am a 47yo man, so am inherently grumpy and have "get off my lawn" signs.

On that note, any time you have to run a stupid small tire stretched in order to fit inside a fender well, it is ugly, nonfunctional, and can be dangerous. Any time you cannot manage to fit a rim of proper offset and width inside your fender well, it is ugly. Pulling the fenders, flares, are all valid methods to make them fit, assuming proper tire selection and geometry. Half-assing it to just say "look how wide my rims are!" with 9" wide rims with 185 width tires to fit under the car, is stupid.

So most of what you like has me shaking my head.

Actually, I don't disagree with anything you've said. I'm a grumpy old guy too, but I still love the way that white car LOOKS, from a pure stance aesthetic...which may be where we diverge in opinion. I would never do that to my own car, however. And when I say 'modest stretch', I'm not talking what the stance community might call modest, I'm talking a very small degree of stretch, if and when fitment is going to 'just make it' to pull off wider rubber. Not the 9"/185 scenario you mentioned, in other words. Stretching can help in small ways to change the effective profile of a tire for clearance, and marginally lower COG, and if not abused is a way to sometimes fit wider rubber for tracking purposes. It is also a way to drive around dangerously low and slow, curb rims, and loose traction when over-cambered, lol (when abused).

FWIW, the pictures above were me just taking a piss.. some of those cars and photochops are hideous! :-)

Besides, look closely at the driver of the first picture.... WTH IS THAT?

nojeebs
05-28-2013, 07:23 PM
That white one with Work Meisters is from Japan and is really just a clean flush setup. The stretch is on the mild side. But yeah let's just get back on track and keep this about flush fitment. I'm down with people having input but not when we start to get sidetracked....It happens quite a bit here from what I've noticed. :-p

Dylansi you got plenty to go on and it's just a matter of your budget. I personally like a wide range of fitments on vehicles but seeing meaty setups on these cars just reminds me of a pop model. It's probably because the car is so tall....when I see them with 17s it tends to make the car appear longer which gives it a better visual appeal and proportion that's doesn't make it look so tall. But yeah you have fun search the interwebs for the wheels you want. ;) I know I did and I ended up just going one off 3 piece wheels. :-p

shagghie
05-28-2013, 07:29 PM
Fair enough NoJeebs...thanks for getting us back on track. I assume the O.P. knows about these: http://roadracemotorsports.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=118_130&products_id=1505

http://roadracemotorsports.com/store/images/Encore.jpg

15x8's, and cheap.

Abarth Five O
05-28-2013, 08:12 PM
For Stance encore or mindset wheels, R/R recommended going with 16x8 for the Abarth to ensure proper fitment and clearance.

dylansi
06-05-2013, 04:16 PM
That white one with Work Meisters is from Japan and is really just a clean flush setup. The stretch is on the mild side. But yeah let's just get back on track and keep this about flush fitment. I'm down with people having input but not when we start to get sidetracked....It happens quite a bit here from what I've noticed. :-p

Dylansi you got plenty to go on and it's just a matter of your budget. I personally like a wide range of fitments on vehicles but seeing meaty setups on these cars just reminds me of a pop model. It's probably because the car is so tall....when I see them with 17s it tends to make the car appear longer which gives it a better visual appeal and proportion that's doesn't make it look so tall. But yeah you have fun search the interwebs for the wheels you want. ;) I know I did and I ended up just going one off 3 piece wheels. :-p

Just got off vacation and havent had a chance to really look yet. This week i will look a good bit. I will mostly focus on 16's but if i can find a good priced 17" I may go with it. Thanks for all your help.


Fair enough NoJeebs...thanks for getting us back on track. I assume the O.P. knows about these: http://roadracemotorsports.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=118_130&products_id=1505

Yes I have seen them but I dont think the size to weight ratio for those is that great. They do look good on that car though

http://roadracemotorsports.com/store/images/Encore.jpg

15x8's, and cheap.

dylansi
06-20-2013, 12:32 AM
Do you guys think these will fit? 16x8 +20
http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-531-Wheels-16x8-Chromium-Black-p/53168082n.htm

Ready to bite the bullet on these and some springs or coils if I know the +20 offset will not be an issue

Thanks

2Cool
06-20-2013, 07:19 AM
Do you guys think these will fit? 16x8 +20
http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-531-Wheels-16x8-Chromium-Black-p/53168082n.htm

Ready to bite the bullet on these and some springs or coils if I know the +20 offset will not be an issue

Thanks

Just going by a wheel comparing tool, that rim would protrude 30mm further out from the car than stock. You would definitely need no more than a 205 width tire to fold the sidewall in away from the fender. Of course doing that would defeat the purpose of having lightweight wheels as you wreck the handling characteristics of the tire the further you go from square.

nojeebs
06-20-2013, 09:54 AM
Meh on xxrs but yeah they would fit depending on the tire brand and size you go with.

dylansi
06-20-2013, 10:28 PM
Yea I know they are crazy cheap but a good looking wheel at 16.3lbs and a 2.5" lip

nojeebs
06-21-2013, 10:04 AM
Yeah I'm not going to argue on the price for them but when you see tons of 90 gen Hondas running them you get bored of just seeing them and appreciate the real ccw classics more. But yeah I'm half curious and half worried about seeing them on a fiat. :-p

2Cool
06-21-2013, 11:39 AM
I had exchanged emails with Next Level on the XXR 002s. They do not stock, nor do they recommend PCD (aka "wobble bolts") for use to make the 4x100mm wheels fit our cars. Doesn't mean they won't work fine, but you will have to source them elsewhere, as well as hubcentric rings.

shagghie
06-21-2013, 02:38 PM
I had exchanged emails with Next Level on the XXR 002s. They do not stock, nor do they recommend PCD (aka "wobble bolts") for use to make the 4x100mm wheels fit our cars. Doesn't mean they won't work fine, but you will have to source them elsewhere, as well as hubcentric rings.

I don't see why they'd say that...i think that's where ATM got their XXR's from months ago... Check out Mark's Got new Shoes https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/316237_452036394879850_1594146602_n.jpgthread to see how they look on a black AB in 8.5" width.....

2Cool
06-21-2013, 04:20 PM
I don't see why they'd say that...i think that's where ATM got their XXR's from months ago... Check out Mark's Got new Shoes https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/316237_452036394879850_1594146602_n.jpgthread to see how they look on a black AB in 8.5" width.....

No idea, just the reply I had gotten back when I asked about the 002s.

nojeebs
06-21-2013, 04:52 PM
Just make sure you order tuv approved wobble bolts. You'll be fine. http://www.ebay.com/itm/16-M12-x-1-25-ALLOY-WHEEL-WOBBLY-TUNER-BOLTS-TUNER-KEY-pcd-4X98-4X100-FIAT-/140683917405?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyre s_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item20c16a385d

dylansi
06-28-2013, 01:37 PM
Found a Rota dealer that can order custom 4x98 wheels. I am looking at the Rota Track R2 or GT-3 both with a black inside with a candy red lip. Only problem is they need to have a minimum of 3 orders soooooo, is anyone else interested? If so I will get a price once we can come up with a custom size. I was thinking either 16x8 +30 or a little lower or a 17x7-8 +30

Let me know

2Cool
06-28-2013, 02:07 PM
Found a Rota dealer that can order custom 4x98 wheels. I am looking at the Rota Track R2 or GT-3 both with a black inside with a candy red lip. Only problem is they need to have a minimum of 3 orders soooooo, is anyone else interested? If so I will get a price once we can come up with a custom size. I was thinking either 16x8 +30 or a little lower or a 17x7-8 +30

Let me know

I like the GT3, but still want the RB more. 8" width will lead to too much of a stanced look for me though, 7 to 7.5 would be ideal.

dylansi
06-28-2013, 06:59 PM
The RB are already out in a 4x98

2Cool
06-28-2013, 09:42 PM
The RB are already out in a 4x98

I have only seen the 16" (as the 15s do not fit the Abarth) on E bay for a price that is a bit over normal Rota pricing.

musicsurf
06-30-2013, 09:50 PM
I sent that guy on eBay a question regarding the 16 in other colors. He said he can get the hyperblack wheels with polished lip with a 2 month lead time.

dylansi
06-30-2013, 11:36 PM
I sent that guy on eBay a question regarding the 16 in other colors. He said he can get the hyperblack wheels with polished lip with a 2 month lead time.

Which style of wheel?

musicsurf
07-01-2013, 09:32 AM
The RB.

billynew
08-15-2018, 06:17 PM
those are 18s