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Andree
05-26-2013, 06:26 PM
The Chicago Tribune has a section for Fuel-Efficient Car Reviews, with special attention to their own specific driving needs.

Here's their review of the 500e:

http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel-efficient/car/500e

The Chicago Index rates on Parking, Potholes, Snow, and Traffic. Link to Index details:
http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel-efficient/guide/chicago_index

The 500e rates Parking 5, Potholes 3, Snow 4, Traffic 5.

The Traffic rating for 5: "Who needs a house? Live. In. This. Car. Instead."

Nowhere do they mention that it's only a California car.

And this is what I was talking about in another thread, this is a super-useful car for metro areas. Comes in less expensive (without rebates) than the Honda Fit EV, with a somewhat better rating for the individual measurements.
http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel-efficient/search?fuel=ev

Yes, indeed, the Fit was a behemoth compared to the 500, when it came to parking, and that was one of the reasons I personally switched. The Fit is big and it's not that comfortable.

Still hoping for the 500e to be made available to a larger section of the US.

Seafarer61
05-27-2013, 12:32 AM
My guess is they wanted to see how Californians would take to it before going nationwide but the buzz is building and building fast. This appears to be one affordable electric car that actually looks like something you'd want to be seen in. Love this HDR photo.

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/reviews/driven/2013_fiat_500e_first_drive/50610447+w800+h501+cr1+ar0/2013-Fiat-500e-front-1.jpg

Andree
05-27-2013, 03:18 AM
My guess is they wanted to see how Californians would take to it before going nationwide but the buzz is building and building fast. This appears to be one affordable electric car that actually looks like something you'd want to be seen in. Love this HDR photo.

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/reviews/driven/2013_fiat_500e_first_drive/50610447+w800+h501+cr1+ar0/2013-Fiat-500e-front-1.jpg

What's kind of crazy is thus far I've not read anything truly negative about the car. I've read a lot of reviews, posted some of the better ones. The only drawbacks are the ones we are already well aware of, like the back seats not being all that easy to access or that big. It's supposed to be a small car, therefore, it isn't going to have Lincoln Town Car rear seats. Hello?

All kinds of vehicles didn't have great access or much comfort, but we did just fine, back in my teens in friend's cars to my former VW Cabriolet. Ford Pinto. Honda CVCC. Toyota Celicas. Who made the Vega? AMC Pacer. And so on. It was a car, it had seats, and we sat in them. Didn't complain too much as it was much better than walking.

If you want a big back seat, those mentioned cars didn't have one, and neither does the 500e. It still beats walking though, and smaller cars have transported four people for a very long time.

They mention singles, couples without kids. I'd recommend the car to people WITH kids, as an additional vehicle. The 500e becoming the commuter or the runabout with the kid-hauler being something larger, maybe even the 500L. With the fast charger, the car can be ready to go in the evening after being used as the daily commuter. And ready to go again in the morning as the commuter.

We can't MAKE Fiat provide the vehicle to everyone. And the gas 500 would do a very good job at performing the same tasks as the electric. My first thought is this should help propel gas 500 sales. A nice stick Pop will get you 40 mpg at half the price. Because anything said about the basics of the 500e applies to the 500 group already available. Like ease of parking. Visibility. Seat comfort. It's not some weird version that is completely different, it looks just like a 500.

But this 500e is brilliant and really SHOULD be available for anyone who wants one. This could be the one to really change minds about electric cars. It's more practical because of it's size.

Fiat doesn't make a hybrid version, but maybe they could do that too. That could be available all over. I'd even vote for a hybrid with back seat delete to make sure there was room for all the parts. LOL. Give me a nice flat cargo area, a pair of seats, and gas/electric hybrid. The original Honda Insight hybrid was a two-seater.
First generation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight

Fuel efficiency of that old bird:
The car was the most fuel efficient car available in the U.S. for the length of its production run and is still the leader of any current mass market car.[23][24][25] The Insight earned an EPA fuel economy estimate of 70 miles per US gallon (3.4 L/100 km; 84 mpg-imp) in highway driving, 61 mpg-US (3.9 L/100 km; 73 mpg-imp) city. With air conditioning it was 68 mpg-US (3.5 L/100 km; 82 mpg-imp)/60 mpg-US (3.9 L/100 km; 72 mpg-imp). With a CVT it was 57 mpg-US (4.1 L/100 km; 68 mpg-imp)/56 mpg-US (4.2 L/100 km; 67 mpg-imp). Insight aficionados who are "hypermilers" compete to eke out as many miles as possible from a tank, with some achieving considerably more than the EPA estimates. Some claim to get over 100 mpg (US).[26]

I don't know what it would cost, but I think Fiat could do the same kind of mileage in a 500 hybrid. Keeping it small and light is key. Many hybrids out there now are HUGE compared to that Insight and the current Fiat. They can't get the same mileage, they're just too big. A whole lot of us don't need big, and we've proved it many times, as we bought the Fiat 500 in one of it's variations.

That would be a fine addition to the line up, and would be a HUGE seller (in my opinion, among people who think like me).